+fairyhoney Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 Does anyone have an answer to the forum title?? would this type of "coin" survive the wilds? Curious minds need to know!! Quote Link to comment
+fox-and-the-hound Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 If that's the baked stuff like 57's tokens they seem tough as nails! Quote Link to comment
+Snowwolf75 Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 Does anyone have an answer to the forum title?? would this type of "coin" survive the wilds? Curious minds need to know!! Clay items are suprisingly durable once baked... I have a clay TB that was bouncing around Europe for a while before being pilfered back to the states. I was also planning to make clay versions of my personal coin, but never could get access to the dies. hhm... Dragonfly has clay tokens that are deposited as sig items... you might want to ask them. Quote Link to comment
+fairyhoney Posted February 27, 2007 Author Share Posted February 27, 2007 Next curious mind stuff... Would on have to shellac them of some kind?? Quote Link to comment
+Droo Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 Next curious mind stuff... Would on have to shellac them of some kind?? Epoxy is better than a thin film of shellac or urethane that won't last very long on a porous material like clay... it'd be even tougher than a glaze. Quote Link to comment
+summerandnana Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 Next curious mind stuff... Would on have to shellac them of some kind?? I am pretty sure that FIMO once baked is hard to destroy. It is raining cats and dogs, let me go stick one of mine out in the weather.........to be continued Quote Link to comment
+tsunrisebey Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 I've only used FIMO once (experimenting with Pearlex), it's kind of spendy for just that tiny square. I think if you made them thicker, they would hold up really well. Try doing a google search to on clay projects, see what the "experts" say. Quote Link to comment
+fairyhoney Posted February 27, 2007 Author Share Posted February 27, 2007 All great replies... Thanks!!! Quote Link to comment
+Snowwolf75 Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 Most likely. Since the coloring I used on my TB was the arcylics which I painted on, I used a spray-on sealer (couple of layers). Quote Link to comment
57chevy Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 My sculpey tokens/sig items are pretty tough and weather resistant. Sculpey is a polymer clay and it has its own glaze that really makes the colors "POP" and protects it from the elements a bit more. I don't think mine stay in caches long enough to be exposed to too much weather though. Quote Link to comment
+fairyhoney Posted February 27, 2007 Author Share Posted February 27, 2007 Most likely. Since the coloring I used on my TB was the arcylics which I painted on, I used a spray-on sealer (couple of layers). And they are still holding up to the elements?? What kind of spray did you use?? Quote Link to comment
+cache agent Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 Interesting, have been thinking along theses lines...mmmmm will have to do some research... what ever happen to the one in the rain CA Quote Link to comment
+summerandnana Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 Interesting, have been thinking along theses lines...mmmmm will have to do some research... what ever happen to the one in the rain CA OK I retrieved the tokens, 1 on top of the car and 1 in a puddle of water. Dried them off with paper towel and absolutely so difference. No swelling, no cracking, no mushing etc. Good as new. The ones in the rain did not have any protective coating. Quote Link to comment
57chevy Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 Well it's not raining here, but I could put one in the tank part of the toilet for fresh water, and one in the water softeners brine tank for salt water. Results to follow. Quote Link to comment
+fox-and-the-hound Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 My sculpey tokens/sig items are pretty tough and weather resistant. Sculpey is a polymer clay and it has its own glaze that really makes the colors "POP" and protects it from the elements a bit more. I don't think mine stay in caches long enough to be exposed to too much weather though. Those are the ones I was thinking of! The sculpey is the "tough as nails" material I was thinking of. Quote Link to comment
+tsunrisebey Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 Snowwolf75 mentioned acrylic sealer, I've used that on past projects. You can use them on ceramics, over paints, bisques, antiquing glazes, documents, prints, wood, glass, metal, cast resin and stains. I had made some large turtle stepping stones one year out of plaster of paris (more for garden decoration). I used a glossy acrylic sealer by PLAID. Two days later it hailed and although all my stepping stones survived they were very pock marked. Doing other projects using the acrylic sealer, they held up to rain, snow, and summer heat. I used about 3 spray sessions. Short dry time, reasonable price. It comes in matte finish also. I use it more for a fixative these days not a outdoor sealer. Just my 2cents again. Just buy some clay and do some test projects/coins, see what you like and don't like. Quote Link to comment
+tsunrisebey Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 Well it's not raining here, but I could put one in the tank part of the toilet for fresh water, and one in the water softeners brine tank for salt water. Results to follow. You won't be putting that one in a cache later will you ? Quote Link to comment
Son of Cyclops Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 I have many different clays and found huge bars of clay at any arts and crafts store. It took my 900* degree temperture wood burner to burn through the baked clay and it lasted 6 months in my backyard in Michigan through snow, wind, rain, puddles, and sun rays before it cracked (and thats with no protection spray, the one with spray is still going after 9 months). I have been trying to make something like this for a year now and that is all testing clays. Quote Link to comment
+fairyhoney Posted February 28, 2007 Author Share Posted February 28, 2007 I'm glad I was able to have you guys ( that's what we call both sexes over this way) stir up your cranial matter and shine through with some Excellent ideas. I've heard of Fimo and Sculpty baking types of clay. Quote Link to comment
+summerandnana Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 Well it's not raining here, but I could put one in the tank part of the toilet for fresh water, and one in the water softeners brine tank for salt water. Results to follow. Quote Link to comment
+nicolo Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 My sculpey tokens/sig items are pretty tough and weather resistant. Sculpey is a polymer clay and it has its own glaze that really makes the colors "POP" and protects it from the elements a bit more. I don't think mine stay in caches long enough to be exposed to too much weather though. Are these your kokopelli ( and others ) tokens ( pics in the "Tokens are Cool" thread )? Can you send me info on how you made them, they ARE cool! Quote Link to comment
+Shop99er Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 The Truly Unpleasant Mrs. Shop99er uses FIMO for our signature Tikis. No shellac, varnish, epoxy, or anything else. They seem to be tough as the proverbial nail Quote Link to comment
+coreynjoey Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 I just had to give a quick shout-out to summerandnana. She had a contest awhile back where the winner (us!) got some FIMO tokens made by her. We were really impressed with them, they're just beautiful!! Quote Link to comment
57chevy Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 My sculpey tokens/sig items are pretty tough and weather resistant. Sculpey is a polymer clay and it has its own glaze that really makes the colors "POP" and protects it from the elements a bit more. I don't think mine stay in caches long enough to be exposed to too much weather though. Are these your kokopelli ( and others ) tokens ( pics in the "Tokens are Cool" thread )? Can you send me info on how you made them, they ARE cool! You have mail! Quote Link to comment
heidihunter Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 I am a new geocacher, but a long-time craft store employee. It is best to use a brush-on, water-based varnish for polymer clays such as Sculpey and Fimo. Sculpey Glaze, Delta Ceramcoat satin or gloss acrylic varnish, or water-based polyurethane would be appropriate. Spray sealers or solvent-based varnishes applied directly to the bare, baked clay soften the surface. I have been wondering what to take for trade. Clay items are a really good idea! heidihunter Quote Link to comment
+fairyhoney Posted February 28, 2007 Author Share Posted February 28, 2007 I just had to give a quick shout-out to summerandnana. She had a contest awhile back where the winner (us!) got some FIMO tokens made by her. We were really impressed with them, they're just beautiful!! THOSE are totally awesome!! Quote Link to comment
+TheCollector Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 I just had to give a quick shout-out to summerandnana. She had a contest awhile back where the winner (us!) got some FIMO tokens made by her. We were really impressed with them, they're just beautiful!! Are you trading cause I would love to have one send me an email Quote Link to comment
Team Macha Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 Well it's not raining here, but I could put one in the tank part of the toilet for fresh water, and one in the water softeners brine tank for salt water. Results to follow. Double roflmao. Quote Link to comment
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