+DutchGeek & Lollypops Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 I know, I know, only the 76 series floats, but I've been told that the 60 series is neutrally bouyant and will only sink slowly, so will putting a neoprene case on it help it float long enough to grab it if it fell into deeper water? Quote Link to comment
+hogrod Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 The 60cx will float of you use lithium batteries like the energizer E2 lithiums. just remember that the 60 series can't handle the extra voltage these batteries have when new so you'll need to run them down a bit in another device to avoid your gps turning off on you. Quote Link to comment
+Indotguy Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 You could duct tape it to a tire inner tube. Then it would float. Quote Link to comment
+kohldad Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 If it's neutrally boyuant like said above, when you are near water you could put it in a sandwich bag and seal it tight. When the bag is pulled snug over the screen, you will be able to see the screen with very little distortation. The extra air in the bag (even if you try to get most out) should be enough to keep it floating. Another option would be to make you a small fishing line connected to a large fishing bobber. This would be easy to keep in your bag and attach whenever near the water. Quote Link to comment
SandyGarrity Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 (edited) Yes. Take 1 block of polystyrene draw round the unit and carefully cut out the shape with a knife. Switch unit on and slide into block and use. Edited November 28, 2006 by SandyGarrity Quote Link to comment
+Cardinal Red Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 Did you pick neoprene only because it's water proof? Not going to help you much. An object in a fluid experiences an upward force equal to the weight of the fluid displaced by the object. If that upward force is greater than the weight of the object, it will float. Neoprene is generally thin. Won't displace much water. Won't help the situation much. You have to reduce the total weight of the unit, or displace more water with a bulkier lightweight material surrounding the unit. And certainly you want to use a material that will not absorb water. Quote Link to comment
+DutchGeek & Lollypops Posted November 28, 2006 Author Share Posted November 28, 2006 Did you pick neoprene only because it's water proof? Not going to help you much. An object in a fluid experiences an upward force equal to the weight of the fluid displaced by the object. If that upward force is greater than the weight of the object, it will float. Neoprene is generally thin. Won't displace much water. Won't help the situation much. You have to reduce the total weight of the unit, or displace more water with a bulkier lightweight material surrounding the unit. And certainly you want to use a material that will not absorb water. I picked neoprene because I know how much more difficult it is to dive whilst snorkelling while wearing a wetsuit. The neoprene makes me more positively bouyant so I wondered whether it would do the same for my GPS. When near water, I intend to be very careful but a little extra security never goes amiss. Hogrod, why would lithium batteries make any difference? Regards, Stefan. Quote Link to comment
Michael Cook Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 Lithium batteries are simply lighter than alkaline or NIMH. And neoprene will help, if it is less dense than water, which I think it is. Quote Link to comment
+GOT GPS? Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 Lithiums are much lighter, like maybe 2/3 the weight of regular batteries, and so the GPS is more boyant. Quote Link to comment
+Cardinal Red Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 And neoprene will help, if it is less dense than water, which I think it is. I was also assuming neoprene would float. I didn't say neoprene would not help. I said thin neoprene won't help much. The thinner it is the less it will help unless it is trapping air inside. The test is to make/buy your neoprene case and see how much weight you can tie on to it before it sinks. Thats exactly how much it would help. Quote Link to comment
GreatCanadian Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 And neoprene will help, if it is less dense than water, which I think it is. I was also assuming neoprene would float. I didn't say neoprene would not help. I said thin neoprene won't help much. The thinner it is the less it will help unless it is trapping air inside. The test is to make/buy your neoprene case and see how much weight you can tie on to it before it sinks. Thats exactly how much it would help. ?? If neoprene is buoyant at all, then ANY amount of neoprene will help! And as a matter of fact, neoprene is VERY buoyant. Divers add weight to counteract the buoyancy of the neoprenein their wetsuits. Neoprene will lose some if its buoyancy at depth, as the pressure compresses the bubbles trapped in the neoprene. Quote Link to comment
+hogrod Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 (edited) I tested my legendC and 60cx with energizer E2 lithiums installed and they both float great. I was reading the manual for the lowrance expeditionC and it actually states to use these batterys to get the lowrance unit to float. lithium batteries don't weigh very much, 1/3-2/3 of a normal battery weight, I guess thats why they float. lithiums also have the added benefit of lasting twice as long. Edited November 28, 2006 by hogrod Quote Link to comment
Bandit_boy Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 Take a look at http://www.drypakcase.com. they have a lot of waterproof cases for just about anything. I have a DP-48S DRY PAK that holds my GPSMAP 60CSx perfectly, and even though the 60CSx has a "waterproof" case, if I'm going to be around water where the GPS can fall into, the extra protection that the case affords is nice. Not to mention the case will make the GPS float. The case is signal transparent, and the front of the case is clear, and you can use any batteries you like. Hopes this helps Quote Link to comment
+Renegade Knight Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 I know, I know, only the 76 series floats, but I've been told that the 60 series is neutrally bouyant and will only sink slowly, so will putting a neoprene case on it help it float long enough to grab it if it fell into deeper water? As has been said. Yes it will help. So will using Lithium batteries. Between both it will float. Not well, but you won't have to dive for it. Quote Link to comment
+Paulsan Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 Try using a keychain float like boaters use to keep their keys from sinking when dropped in the water. That should work great. Quote Link to comment
planewood Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 Or just put it in a clear plastic zip-loc baggie. Quote Link to comment
+geofireman Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 I know, I know, only the 76 series floats, but I've been told that the 60 series is neutrally bouyant and will only sink slowly, so will putting a neoprene case on it help it float long enough to grab it if it fell into deeper water? First, YES the 60 series can be made to float (some), the 76 seriesis made more for this feature, but, it does have some inherant bouincy (spelling sux). There was a good thread about this awhile back, and a guy made an excelent video using different batteries. Here is the link: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2361118443564888241 Also,I use a Gillson neoprene case on my 76CSx, and did a fast search to find they also make a nice one for the 60 series. Here is the link: http://www.thegpsstore.com/detail.asp?product_id=GL0522 Quote Link to comment
+GOT GPS? Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 (edited) In the drop tests, I tended to strike the water in the 2nd drop, and even harder in the 3rd drop. When the GPS hits the water hard, some drops of water may get behind the edges of the battery door, and also in behind the rubber connector covers on the backside of the GPS. If the GPS was gently laid into the water, it will float better, but that is not a real life test, since GPS units tend to hit the water's surface kinda hard, and sometimes the water may leak into the internals of the GPS when it strikes the water just right. So even a cheap ziplock bag is the best bet when out in a boat. BTW the link to the old thread is in that video of mine, in the discription field Edited February 6, 2007 by GOT GPS? Quote Link to comment
+geofireman Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 Garmin 60 &76 series GPSr's meet IPX7 specifications. http://www.garmin.com/footnotes/IEC_60529_IPX7.html Quote Link to comment
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