Hilton Falls Loop Gcrdc1 Group Gang Caching

1.2k · February 19, 2006

Howdy all!

Just thought I'd float this idea out there. We're planning a group attempt on this cache and have 4 so far. Let me know here or via email if you'd be interested in coming along with some highly-skilled Geocaching pioneers. <_< No date has been set for this yet but would likely be a Saturday or Sunday.

This is a pretty serious cache and not for everyone so have a good read of the description to see if you're up for it. <_<

Cheers!

Coupar-Angus

1.6k · February 19, 2006

Well since I did Algonquin Bound's entire BRUCE ALMIGHTY in one day.... as long as the date is open, COUNT ME IN!

Can I be a Geo-Pioneer too? I have a Pioneer Project, but some people say it's lame.

<_< The Blue Quasar

1.3k · February 19, 2006

If anyone is considering a night run, count me in. After doing BRUCE ALMIGHTY in one night, the KOBFL are always looking for a challenge.

1.2k · February 20, 2006

Excellent! I think doing it at night would be more of a challenge than I'd be up to though. I'm scared of all those critters that come out at night with their reflective eyes, sharp claws and big teeth. And those pesky vampire bats that always get caught in your hair. Let's not forget about the abominable snowmen that frequent the forests too....

:lol:

Cheers!

C-A

February 20, 2006

I'm in for a weekend, day only. Judging by past logs, I would vote for a time slot where the snow is gone, but before the bugs come out. :lol:

Chris

2.7k · February 20, 2006

If anyone is considering a night run, count me in. After doing BRUCE ALMIGHTY in one night, the KOBFL are always looking for a challenge.

As a card carrying member of the Keepers of the Order of the BFL, of couse I'm in for the night expedition.

Don't have to worry about sunblock that time of day :lol:

1.3k · February 20, 2006

Don't have to worry about sunblock that time of day

Gee I don't know about that!! I've seen some of those "intensity enhanced BFL's" a few times and I'm sure a 45 Sunblock is highly recommended. :laughing:

I'm with Charliezulu on the "after snow - before bugs" idea.

Cheers, Olar

February 20, 2006

Count me in!

I'm in with the day crowd - a chance to spend a day hunting with the likes of CA, CZ, Olar and even that BQ fella. I'd prefer the no-snow option too - knowing that tract of land and having covered a good part of the escarpment trail in snow, I'd rather not do that again (although at night the height of the bridge wouldn't bother me as much!). If you search for all the caches nearby I might actually be able to keep up with you guys.

1.2k · February 21, 2006

Hey this is great! This should be a good outing. And if Tomtec is involved rest assured there is no detour too long to grab other caches in the area. I had the 2 biggest blisters of my life after doing the Bruce Almighty in one day with Tomtec and Spike. Right on the balls of my heels too - ouch. I had to walk like a ballerina for a few days.

C-A

2.7k · February 21, 2006

Hey this is great! This should be a good outing. And if Tomtec is involved rest assured there is no detour too long to grab other caches in the area. I had the 2 biggest blisters of my life after doing the Bruce Almighty in one day with Tomtec and Spike. Right on the balls of my heels too - ouch. I had to walk like a ballerina for a few days.

C-A

Ok, where are the night participants? Parts of that trail provide a specatular view of the city at night - believe me it's worth it. Bruce Almighty had some nice views too, especially at that spot the Keith got a little too close to the edge.... :laughing:

Bruce Almighty was an absolute blast that night we did it. But I'll agree - the blisters were there for days. Must have been interesting knowing the routes TOMTEC likes to take (anything but direct, or flat, or navigable by mountain goat).

NP

1.2k · February 21, 2006

Olar's right, you guys have more candle power than a KISS concert so you might as well do the hike in the day with us!

February 22, 2006

Andy, I thought you were walking funny in Bolton.... blisters... yeah, right. :cute:

February 22, 2006

Ok, where are the night participants? Parts of that trail provide a specatular view of the city at night - believe me it's worth it.

Just a note - Nozzletime has posted a "not recommended at night" attribute on the cache. Hilton Falls Conservation is closed at night and the route takes you through private property. Not sure if that would be considered trespassing but I just though you should be aware if you're planning a night hike. :cute:

2.7k · February 22, 2006

Just a note - Nozzletime has posted a "not recommended at night" attribute on the cache. Hilton Falls Conservation is closed at night and the route takes you through private property. Not sure if that would be considered trespassing but I just though you should be aware if you're planning a night hike.

Pretty sure most of the route lies along the Bruce Trail, which is open all day and all night. Worth investigating but we've never had a problem. A lot of people get concerned about walking along the escarpment at night, perhaps due to that little drop on the right hand side.

I've been up and down those trails and I will say this much - be extremely cautious if you are hiking the escarpment edge near the Dufferin Quarry bridge when trail conditions are icy, as they are apt to be for the next few weeks. The trail does dip and doodle around and slope near the edge in a couple spots.

Night does not bother me much, just bring (a few) flashlights. I got myself a nice 7 LED focused flashlight at Walmart for like $15 and it puts out plenty of light, and lasts about 200 hours. Night caching (especially along the escarpment) is not for everyone, but for those that do venture out that way, it has very good spots for a long exposure camera shot toward Toronto.

1.6k · February 22, 2006

Hmmm... let's see how this looks from a Cole Porter perspective (starting from top of thread)

NIGHT

Northern Penguin

Keith Watson

DAY

Coupar Angus

The Blue Quasar

Charliezulu

OLAR (I think)

Amazon Annie

I'm sure there are other people for both groups... I just don't know who

:cute: The Blue Quasar

February 22, 2006

Hmmm... let's see how this looks from a Cole Porter perspective (starting from top of thread)

NIGHT

Northern Penguin

Keith Watson

DAY

Coupar Angus

The Blue Quasar

Charliezulu

OLAR (I think)

Amazon Annie

I'm sure there are other people for both groups... I just don't know who

The Blue Quasar

Might as well add me to the KOTBFL night group if your counting.

Edited February 22, 2006 by Jiminie Crickets

February 22, 2006

I posted the not available at night because sections of the loop are not on secured property(Bruce trail doesn't own them).

The hiking along the edge of the escarpment is not a problem for me.

The main concern is the section that the Scouts have granted access too.

I didn't want to encourage poeple wandering through a Scout camp at night while kids are camping there, I am sure that would result in the loss of access if that happens.

Hilton Falls Conservation Area is also closed after sunset.

1.2k · February 22, 2006

Add Tomtec to the day crew. He's currently caching in Latin America and originally suggested the group cache to Olar and I. I also received an email from Olar stating that he is about to start training for this cache too.

Cheers!

C-A

1.3k · February 22, 2006

Add Tomtec to the day crew. He's currently caching in Latin America and originally suggested the group cache to Olar and I. I also received an email from Olar stating that he is about to start training for this cache too.

I'm not sure early morning strolls on a Cuban beach can be called "training". On the other hand I could pretend I'm on the Bruce Trail by zig-zagging along, stepping high over sand-castles and sunbathers, getting feet wet from the surf and swatting at imaginary bugs. Cuba does not allow any GPS units so I'll just have to hold my drinking mug out in front of me and hope it gets a satellite lock before I get lost. :laughing:

Cheers, Olar

1.3k · February 22, 2006

I posted the not available at night because sections of the loop are not on secured property(Bruce trail doesn't own them).

The hiking along the edge of the escarpment is not a problem for me.

The main concern is the section that the Scouts have granted access too.

I didn't want to encourage poeple wandering through a Scout camp at night while kids are camping there, I am sure that would result in the loss of access if that happens.

Hilton Falls Conservation Area is also closed after sunset.

I just gave the BT office a call and inquired about night-hiking on official maintrail and sidetrails. They have no restrictions on night time use even if the trail does pass through private property. Of course the stay-on-trail rule applies no matter what time of day.

The Scout camp concern is certainly valid. Perhaps a call to the camp office alerting them of a group planning to pass through is wise. In fact the kids may even get a big kick out of all the bright lights. :laughing:

Olar

1.6k · February 23, 2006

NIGHT a.k.a. KOTBFL (Keepers of the Big 'Flash Light') (family version ?)

Northern Penguin

Keith Watson

Jiminie Crickets

(Chris-Mouse)?

DAY a.k.a. CWACN (Cachers without a cool name) (needs work )

Coupar Angus

The Blue Quasar

Charliezulu

OLAR

Amazon Annie

TOMTEC

1.4k · February 23, 2006

Tomtec invited me, but I didn't know there was a forum topic. Put me down for the day crew, and only if I am not working that day.

February 24, 2006

A lot of people get concerned about walking along the escarpment at night, perhaps due to that little drop on the right hand side.

Maybe you should re-think the night hike... That 'little drop' will actually be on your left!

February 24, 2006

Hey, I'm in. A nice long night hike is always fun. Just be warned, since the Hilton Falls loop is some 25K of hiking, it's going to be an ALL night hike.

1.2k · February 24, 2006

That 25km is assuming you don't go the wrong way. Colour me Mr. Safety, but I think you guys should reconsider doing this cache at night.

I would hate to do an event cache at Sunnybrook Hospital or worse, a funeral home!

C-A

February 25, 2006

I would hate to do an event cache at Sunnybrook Hospital or worse, a funeral home!

I think the notion that it's unsafe to be hiking at night is highly overrated. Given an adequate light source, one is no more likely to walk off a cliff at night than one is to walk off a cliff in the daylight. Since we are talking about the KoBFL team here, 'adequate light source' is probably somewhat of an understatement :lol:

February 26, 2006

Being a CWACN I am going to have to place my name on the GFBOE list as apposed to the KOTBFL list.

Sounds like fun.

1.4k · February 26, 2006

It does sound like fun for sure.

I wish I could put my name on a list but that wouldn't be fair as I know it is nowhere near my location.

If I could though I would participate with a Flashlight.

My flashlight isn' really a flashhlight though, it is a portable lighting system that can be carried by those strong enough. I like to think of it as a portable piece of sunlight myself.

It sure sounds like fun !

Way to go Keith and Colin, it sounds neat Couparangus.

I have to go eat some waffles now.

Edited February 26, 2006 by wavector

2.7k · February 27, 2006

Maybe you should re-think the night hike... That 'little drop' will actually be on your left!

Since I haven't actually done the cache yet, I wasn't sure which direction it would go around the loop. When I've been out that way, the drop has been on the right hand side. But I'm left-handed so you can never trust me on right/left.....

February 28, 2006

CWACN? I like it!

Managed to return from Mexico without being murdered :blink: , so I'm up for a good hike! I'll stick with the day cachers for this one... hey, someone's gotta drag Annie across that bridge! :blink: Now we just wait for some good weather. What happened to that spring-like weather we had a few weeks ago?

TOMTEC

1.2k · February 28, 2006

"I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous..." - Buckminster Fuller

Is it just me or does there appear to be a disproportionate number of left-handed Geocachers out there?

When I got my first GPS receiver I read the manual (yes, I sometimes do that) and recall it mentioned that the unit was intended to be used in the left hand. Hmmm.... I wonder if this is because left-handed people get lost more often? :blink:

C-A

March 1, 2006

Hey count me in for the day crew. I have had this cache on my mind ever since it was publish and Res2100 asked me to come with him for a join FTF. but I was not able to make it.

When is this group expedition going to take place??

I know Dr Clean and Jtee are interested in doing this as a group event. I am only 14 caches away from my 900th find would like to do this one for thatmilestone. I have hiked the trail many times before I started geocaching.

This would be the first group attempt on this multi, the first 4 cachers did it solo.

1.4k · March 5, 2006

pickadate pickadate pickadate pickadate...

March 5, 2006

has there been a date set for this attempt. Or are we waiting til the tempuratures warm up.

1.2k · March 6, 2006

I'm thinking let the snow melt but not wait for the bugs. How does one warm weather Saturday in April grab everyone?

C-A

March 6, 2006

april is a good month, only two events one on the first and 22nd.

but I won't be able to make it my 900th as I am 6 caches away. may have to pick a new cache for #900

March 6, 2006

I'm in for either day or night :-)

But it will need to be in April as I'm off to Europe on Friday for a couple weeks of tourist-ing... (I mean caching, but I haven't told the people that I'm going with yet!)

On the positive side, it won't be anywhere near as bad or difficult as Dex's 5/5 cache in that area even if we might walk close to some of the stages.

March 6, 2006

On the positive side, it won't be anywhere near as bad or difficult as Dex's 5/5 cache in that area even if we might walk close to some of the stages.

I don't know about that... I'm looking at the people who are signing up for the daytime hike and you all have legs as long as I am tall. Don't know that I will be able to keep up with you fellas! At least on Dex's 5/5 I had some people that walked at my pace. :laughing:

I think I'll suggest parking a vehicle 1/2 way or somewhere around 6th Line so that we have a) an emergency vehicle available and :lol: those of us that are not sure about their ability to conquer this in one go will have the ability to decide at that point. If I pulled my muscle again like I did in December then that would just be too far and you'd have to airlift me out.

Does that open it up to some people who are 'on the fence' about this?

1.3k · March 6, 2006

I think I'll suggest parking a vehicle 1/2 way or somewhere around 6th Line so that we have a) an emergency vehicle available and those of us that are not sure about their ability to conquer this in one go will have the ability to decide at that point. If I pulled my muscle again like I did in December then that would just be too far and you'd have to airlift me out.

Does that open it up to some people who are 'on the fence' about this?

I was planning to park at a convenient "drop-out" point regardless just in case the old legs couldn't last the circuit. Maybe an official 3rd group could be formed to do the cache on two separate days like a Sat/Sun or a Sat/Sat. Whatever.

Olar

March 6, 2006

I'd be up for a single day (not night) in April sometime... it'd have to be a weekend day, but not on the long weekend. Does that work?

- hamgran

March 7, 2006

Depending on the day you can add Laura and I to the day crew

March 9, 2006

Depending on the day and time you can count me in as well

1.2k · March 13, 2006

(bjump)

If this weekend's weather is anything to go by, it look slike it'll be an early spring. I don't know about Hilton Falls, but there isn't much snow around Caledon to create much more of a run-off than we have right now. How about we strive for Saturday, April 8th?

March 13, 2006

April 8th sounds good, Fizbot should be home from his Euro-Caching trip and can regale us on the trails with all is adventures.

I just hope there isn't as much mud out there as there is now! Do April showers bring May flowers?

Farmer's Almanac says:

April 2006

Avg. Temperature: 43° (4° below avg.)

Precipitation: 5.5" (2" above avg.)

Apr. 1-12: Chilly, periods of rain and snow

Apr. 13-19: Mild, rain

Apr. 20-30: Cool, showers

Hate to put a damper on things :rolleyes:

March 13, 2006

Hey remember last year at the april fools event!!! we could be in for anything. the 8th sounds good. that will give us a few days to recover from the april fools event.

1.2k · March 14, 2006

Wasn't that the night of a snow storm? I started for Stouffville but turned back. I guess that either makes me a wimp or wise. Or a wise wimp? Hmmm...it doesn't sound good no matter how you slice it.

Annie, I wouldn't believe that farmers almanac. Just listen to Harold H. on CFTR. The weather is usually the exact opposite of what he says.

1.4k · March 15, 2006

CA gonna host an event ? :anibad: .. make it 2 caches for the price of one! ( A high price, I am sure..)

If April 8 is the date, I can attend.

March 22, 2006

CA gonna host an event ? .. make it 2 caches for the price of one! ( A high price, I am sure..)

If April 8 is the date, I can attend.

This is getting pretty close now... are we still talking about April 8th?

I don't get into Pearson until 7am that day (redeye from Las Vegas).... will someone bring a stretcher for me if I pass out in the first few klicks?

1.2k · March 22, 2006

As far as I know, we're still a go! Let's hope for some warmer weather.

As for an event cache. I'm not sure if this could be considered one.

Maybe if it is in conjunction with some true event?

I would however like to give it a little more publicity 'cuz I know many cachers don't venture into the forums.

C-A

2.7k · March 22, 2006

As for an event cache. I'm not sure if this could be considered one.

Maybe if it is in conjunction with some true event?

C-A

Pretty sure this will get turned down for an event cache. The 24Hour cache machine has tried to get 'event' cache designation before but Groundspeak wasn't too keen on that.

Setup a pub night around it and you've got a chance.

Hilton Falls Loop Gcrdc1 Group Gang Caching

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