BassoonPilot Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 quote:Originally posted by OhNoMrBill: I think you've missed the point. No, I didn't. It's all about negativity, right? Quote Link to comment
+CurmudgeonlyGal Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 With all this talk about DNF's and then finding out the cache is actually missing, how do y'all feel about using SBA as an option? I've posted 2 SBA's and 3 DNF's (1 resolved, 2 just the other day during a miserable attempt at night-caching - I will be going back during daylight hours to get them!) With one of the SBA's, it had been missing for at least a month, maybe two with a handful of DNF's logged before we went out to see what havoc we could wreak. Knowing full well the status of the cache, and not really expecting it to be there, my husband and I spent about an hour doing some serious canvassing of the area. After dialogue with the hider, who had no desire to maintain this particular cache or even go see if it still existed (he is local), he told me where the cache should have been (obvious choice), which is a place we thoroughly covered, he decided to archive it. With the other, there hadn't been any action at the cache for a couple months. I went out and spent, oh, at least an half hour on two different occasions looking for the cache on the fringe of a sports field. This was at the end of a particularly busy season where they'd also come through and trimmed back many of the bushes this cache was supposedly hanging in. I asked a guy who'd been out to the particular cache a couple of times, and knew where it was, if he could go out and either confirm or deny its existence. He also could not find the cache. I left an SBA with a detailed description of my hunt, as well as the other former finders inability to locate said box. It was also archived, later that same day, with a note that the cache had been removed by groundspeople. Should we post SBA's, or just leave incredibly detailed DNF's? Quote Link to comment
+CompassCollector Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 quote:Originally posted by BassoonPilot: quote:Originally posted by OhNoMrBill: I think you've missed the point. No, I didn't. It's all about negativity, right? No, but I also don't care to get into a pissing contest. OhNoMrBill (Bill Hudson, Gilroy CA) Quote Link to comment
BassoonPilot Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 quote:No, but I also don't care to get into a pissing contest. Okay, you win! Have it your way! Quote Link to comment
BassoonPilot Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 quote:Originally posted by CurmudgeonlyGal: With all this talk about DNF's and then finding out the cache is actually missing, how do y'all feel about using SBA as an option? ... Should we post SBA's, or just leave incredibly detailed DNF's? I don't think SBA should be used unless one is ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN the cache is missing and the cache has either been abandoned or the owner refuses to take action. (To me, "absolutely certain" means at least one person who previously found the cache has verified it as missing.) Many, many times caches thought to be abandoned or missing have been found after a string of DNFs and, in some cases, SBAs. Quote Link to comment
+WalruZ Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 I've left an SBA for a cache that came up with multiple DNFs in a busy park across the street from me. It was *way* obvious that the sucker was gona-a-roonie. The PTB attempted to contact the cache owner and it sat for awhile, then was archived. In such situations, an SBA says "this problem needs to be dealt with." Quote Link to comment
+GEO.JOE Posted November 24, 2003 Share Posted November 24, 2003 I believe I have found every cache that was there. I have been caching since October 24, 2003. I have logged 29 finds and 2 DNF's (I am waiting for comfirmation that the caches are gone) When I did not find the 2 caches I contacted the owners with a full discription of my search and condition of the cache area, then logged a DNF as a "heads-up" for other cachers. After contacting the owner of a third cache I did not find I was informed that the cache had been removed and the owner had forgotten to archive the cache, so he confirmed I searched the correct stump and told me to log it as a find. Happy Caching! GEO.JOE Quote Link to comment
+Bozz Posted November 24, 2003 Share Posted November 24, 2003 DNF's are part of the fun! I don't know about you, but I **DO** go and re-attempt if I have to post a DNF. However, it doesn't matter to me if people don't always log a DNF. I look at it this way, if I set out to find it, and don't -- it is a DNF. Bozz Quote Link to comment
+Web-ling Posted November 25, 2003 Share Posted November 25, 2003 I'm currently sitting at 860 found / 81 DNF, for a 91.4% find rate. Many of the DNFs were later found, and many turned out to be gone. Quite a few I just plain MISSED. Quote Link to comment
+Kitch Posted November 25, 2003 Share Posted November 25, 2003 I'm afraid to look.... Because then I would want 2 compare my DNF's to the level of difficulty. I would also want to compare my DNF's to the other cachers that have logged the same DNF's. Oh...lord....I'm going to have to use my college math skills. Quote Link to comment
+TEAM 360 Posted November 25, 2003 Share Posted November 25, 2003 0 DNF's. I keep track of my own finds and don't record the DNF's anymore. 100% find rate. Quote Link to comment
+javamutt Posted November 25, 2003 Share Posted November 25, 2003 This is definitely an interesting topic. It seems like the big discrepency is whether a DNF is meant to be a note to the cache owner that their cache might be gone, or another form of log for the cacher. I've taken the approach of logging a DNF whenever I manage to get within that 20' circle of insanity and am teased by the jumping 0' indicator! I don't log a DNF when I give up en-route. If you didn't experience the cache site to some degree it doesn't seem like its log-worthy. </.02> Quote Link to comment
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