+Huntforit Posted July 31, 2003 Share Posted July 31, 2003 I have read many a post about how newbies mess up logging of travel bugs, get lost etc. etc. Just wondering if anyone can provide a picture of said newbie since I've yet to run across one while geocaching. Maybe its because I've only been doing it for a couple of months though..LOL Quote Link to comment
+Breaktrack Posted July 31, 2003 Share Posted July 31, 2003 quote:Originally posted by Huntforit:I have read many a post about how newbies mess up logging of travel bugs, get lost etc. etc. Just wondering if anyone can provide a picture of said newbie since I've yet to run across one while geocaching. Maybe its because I've only been doing it for a couple of months though..LOL Actually, there are no restrictions, you can wear the title as loooooong as you want...lol. "Trade up, trade even, or don't trade!!!" My philosophy of life. Quote Link to comment
+flask Posted July 31, 2003 Share Posted July 31, 2003 don't wear it at all if you don't want. by the time i had heard of geocaching, i had despaired of ever getting other people to play my "find the hidden box" clue and puzzle and map games. so i felt less like a newbie than ome at last. besides, it ain't no badge of shame. some of our newbiew here are some of our most skilled players. it doesn't matter if you get to camp at one or at six. dinner is still at six. Quote Link to comment
+Shoebox Posted July 31, 2003 Share Posted July 31, 2003 I realized that I wasn't a newbie when I noticed that I was answering more questions than asking. You'll feel it when you get there. In the meantime, don't worry about it as you are already more experienced than those who started geocaching after you. Quote Link to comment
+clearpath Posted July 31, 2003 Share Posted July 31, 2003 Generally, a newbie title last one year. Or, to put it another way, after your one year anniversary, you can shed the moniker. I have 5 months, 19 days, 13 hours, 25 min. and 32 secs. to graduation. Quote Link to comment
+Gaddiel Posted July 31, 2003 Share Posted July 31, 2003 I'll wear it 'til I wear it out! Quote Link to comment
+Renegade Knight Posted July 31, 2003 Share Posted July 31, 2003 When you make bigger and more profound mistakes than you could never have made when you didn't know what you were doing is the time when you can trade in your newbie status for... I'm not sure what you trade it in for. But at least you can say you should of known better... Quote Link to comment
+Team GPSaxophone Posted July 31, 2003 Share Posted July 31, 2003 A newbie needs to get whatever their find count is plus one. When they get that one, the requirement will still be their find count plus one. Took sun from sky, left world in eternal darkness Quote Link to comment
Jomarac5 Posted July 31, 2003 Share Posted July 31, 2003 Since caching has not been around for very long, there are no newbies and there are no veterans. And as soon as some of the more prolific forum posters acknowledge this, we will all be better off. ***** Quote Link to comment
+Webfoot Posted July 31, 2003 Share Posted July 31, 2003 quote:Originally posted by clearpath:Generally, a newbie title last one year. Or, to put it another way, after your one year anniversary, you can shed the moniker. I have 5 months, 19 days, 13 hours, 25 min. and 32 secs. to graduation. Clearpath, I have to respectfully disagree with you. You have almost as many finds in 7 months as I have in 2 and a half years. I would say that you're no longer a newbie when you go out on a cache hunt expecting it to be there as opposed to being unsure whether it's some elaborate joke played on by your closest friend. Our first cache hunt, I kept expecting Candid Camera to jump out of the bushes yelling, "SMILE!" It was one of those lightbulb moments that said, wow, this is really cool and it's for real. I figured I wasn't a newbie on about the fifth cache hunt when we hiked 6.4 miles, did five stream crossings, of which my son fell in twice and just flopped in the last two times, and still came out with smiles on our faces. We were seasoned veterans at that time. I think the newbie title is determined more by experience than actual time, much like how you mature. I've known many adults who weren't very mature and some children who were very mature. I'd say you've graduated. _________________________________ Webfoot Tromping through the underbrush looking for Ammo cans, Tupperware containers, & little round disks. Quote Link to comment
+robert Posted July 31, 2003 Share Posted July 31, 2003 quote:Originally posted by Jomarac5:Since caching has not been around for very long, there are no newbies and there are no veterans. Good point. On a similar note, at the recent Maryland Geocaching Society picnic, I was surprised at how the cachers with several hundred finds were just as cool to those with maybe 10 or 20. It's rare to find that sort of thing anymore. ~robert Quote Link to comment
+Team Lyons Posted July 31, 2003 Share Posted July 31, 2003 I say your no longer a newbie once you do a super hard multi cache and complete it. I just did a multi that took me eight hours to complete. I learned from all my mistakes and I'll put them to good use on my next cache. Quote Link to comment
+fly46 Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 quote:Originally posted by Lerch:I say your no longer a newbie once you do a super hard multi cache and complete it. I just did a multi that took me eight hours to complete. I learned from all my mistakes and I'll put them to good use on my next cache. Well, if that's what it takes to not be a newbie, then I'll be a newbie forever, because that's just crazy. I tend to agree with the answering more questions than asking theory... The point of being a newby is because you don't know what you're doing... If you're answering questions and finding caches, then you're well in the game. Quote Link to comment
+Team Lyons Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 quote:Originally posted by fly46: quote:Originally posted by Lerch:I say your no longer a newbie once you do a super hard multi cache and complete it. I just did a multi that took me eight hours to complete. I learned from all my mistakes and I'll put them to good use on my next cache. Well, if that's what it takes to not be a newbie, then I'll be a newbie forever, because that's just crazy. I tend to agree with the answering more questions than asking theory... The point of being a newby is because you don't know what you're doing... If you're answering questions and finding caches, then you're well in the game. All I'm saying is that if you've found a 4/4 or a 5/5 cache and it kicked your A$$ in the process your not a newbie anymore. As far asking questions all the time goes.......Smart people ask questions. How do you thunk they got that way? Quote Link to comment
+briansnat Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 I'd say you're no longer a newbie as soon as you develop what many call "cache sense". Cache sense is the thing that tells you exactly where the cache is as soon as you get within 50 to 100 feet of the cache. This can take between 10 and 50 finds for most people. Some never develop it and the most experienced geocachers lose it from time to time. "Give a man a fish, he'll eat for a day. Teach a man to fish, he'll sit in a boat and drink beer all day" - Dave Barry [This message was edited by BrianSnat on August 01, 2003 at 01:24 PM.] Quote Link to comment
+CoronaKid Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 quote:Originally posted by BrianSnat:I'd say you're no longer a newbie as soon as you develop what many call "cache sense". Cache sense is the thing that tells you exactly where the cache is as soon as you get within 50 to 100 feet of the cache. LOL...I'd say that's an excellent measure. Sometimes, however, even the most savvy cacher loses the force and is still fumbling around like a newbie. --CoronaKid Quote Link to comment
+Tervas Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 I agree with BrianSnat, found some 4 and 5 star caches on my vacation trip but failed on a ** cache. Quote Link to comment
+Sparrowhawk Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 I realized I was not a newbie anymore when I found out another cacher used my geocaching name as a clue in a puzzle cache. -Elana (a.k.a. "Sparrowhawk") Quote Link to comment
+woodsters Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 I think it should lie on a number (finds or a date). Like BrianSnat stated, even expereinced cachers can lose that cache sense from time to time. People have their off days. Not sure how this forum software works, but I know my message borad software and a couple others lets you have different "pips" set up underneath the avatar. They are mainly set up for the amount of messages, but I would imagine that one that knows how to manipulate the code (Jeremy) could set it up with the total number of finds. They also have group names, so Newbie could be the first one until an "X" amount of finds are found and then they go up to the next group name and so on. Brian As long as you're going to think anyway, think big. -Donald Trump Quote Link to comment
+Renegade Knight Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 If you go to a cache event and everyone knows your moniker you probably aren't a newbie. You still may not have a lick of cache sence but that's different. If your cache sences is good enough to where you know where they will all look and hide it where they won't thus foiling their cache sence, you are not a newbie. Quote Link to comment
Micqn Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 When you're 'green' you're growing, when you're 'ripe' you're rotten. Don't Drink And Park: Accidents Cause People. Quote Link to comment
+Huntnlady Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 In your case, you must wear the title until you stop listing the contents of a new Geocache you started. It's like love, grasshopper, you will know it when the real thing comes along. _______________________________ Ever consider what our dogs must think of us? I mean, here we come back from a grocery store with the most amazing haul -- chicken, pork, half a cow. They must think we're the greatest hunters on earth! http://www.geocities.com/cacheinon Quote Link to comment
+Team Lyons Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 If your tracks still look like this on your gpsr's screen your still a newbie. Quote Link to comment
+T10X Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 I'm a newbie and proud of it! My Mer. Plat. tracks looks like that but I refuse to clear it until its full. I'm going to roll the tripometer over too, so far I have 4317 miles on it. I have gone up a notch though, I finally have an avatar. Quote Link to comment
+Jeep5 Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 quote:Originally posted by BrianSnat:I'd say you're no longer a newbie as soon as you develop what many call "cache sense". Cache sense is the thing that tells you exactly where the cache is as soon as you get within 50 to 100 feet of the cache. This can take between 10 and 50 finds for most people. Some never develop it and the most experienced geocachers lose it from time to time. If that is the case, my seven year old is a vetran after about 3 finds. He learned to spot potential cache locations real early, after 30+ finds in six months he is starting to find it "boring" when we go for the park & grabs. _"Give a man a fish, he'll eat for a day. Teach a man to fish, he'll sit in a boat and drink beer all day" - Dave Barry_ [This message was edited by BrianSnat on August 01, 2003 at 01:24 PM.] Quote Link to comment
Northern-Lights Posted August 2, 2003 Share Posted August 2, 2003 Well...we don't have one year just yet....but we started believing we weren't quite newbies yet after doing several difficult multi's or long hike hides. Then, after hiding a couple of "Challenge" caches that stumped some of the veteran cachers around...I really felt I'd graduated. I guess it's a matter of experience...sorta like what was already stated. If God is your co-pilot, it's time to change seats!!! http://www.mi-geocaching.org/ Quote Link to comment
Jomarac5 Posted August 2, 2003 Share Posted August 2, 2003 quote: Huntforit wrote:How long must a "newbie" wear the title? Who cares? And why? Does it make anyone better or worse than anyone else? Is this some measurement to see who has the highest testosterone levels? Is the term 'newbie' supposed to make new people to this activity feel inferior? If I have 150 finds does it make me better than someone with 50? This activity has not been around for very long -- there are no 'newbies' and there are no veterans. This labelling is all about ego folks, recognize it for what it is and you'll see how stupid it is. This topic comes up all too often. Some topics have a purpose. Some topics matter. This isn't one of them. ***** Quote Link to comment
+sept1c_tank Posted August 2, 2003 Share Posted August 2, 2003 I'm a newbie (and proud of it!) ==============="If it feels good...do it"================ **(the other 9 out of 10 voices in my head say: "Don't do it.")** . Quote Link to comment
+BullDogBob&Double00 Posted August 2, 2003 Share Posted August 2, 2003 Well I lost my newbieism last week when a friend tried to find 3 caches and didnt locate a one of them. I took him out the next day and found them all by lunch.....lol.. "WITHOUT GEOGRAPHY YOU'RE NOWHERE....Jimmy Buffett Quote Link to comment
+Huntforit Posted August 2, 2003 Author Share Posted August 2, 2003 Jomarac5 said.... "This labelling is all about ego folks, recognize it for what it is and you'll see how stupid it is. This topic comes up all too often. Some topics have a purpose. Some topics matter. This isn't one of them." Are you having a BAD day? I think it's a GREAT topic as do others. If you don't like it, don't read it. P.S. You should probably live by your picture you have posted. Quote Link to comment
+Huntforit Posted August 2, 2003 Author Share Posted August 2, 2003 Jomarac5... This is your picture isn't it? Quote Link to comment
Jomarac5 Posted August 2, 2003 Share Posted August 2, 2003 quote: Huntforit wrote:This is your picture isn't it? And your point is? ***** Quote Link to comment
Jomarac5 Posted August 2, 2003 Share Posted August 2, 2003 quote: Huntforit wrote:P.S. You should probably live by your picture you have posted. I do. Very much. And the picture has what to do with this silly ego topic? And I'm having a fine day. Thanks. ***** Quote Link to comment
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