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Jomarac5

Jomarac5

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hydee wrote:

We as a community need to work on those issues. The criticism can be positive and help the approvers, Groundspeak and the community to understand each other and work together.

Hydee, whatever Groundspeak pays you, it isn't enough. Might I suggest that Woodsters also remove his log on the cache page referencing this situation and we move on?

 

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woodsters

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Jomarac5, it's already been done....

 

Thanks Hydee for whatever you did. I do understand that things can be stressful, but none the less that was an outright attack on me, not the cache, but me personally. I never stated any approvers name(didn't even know who it was), nor did I mention the cache specifically. I did state it in general as reference. They(approver) had to seek out exactly what cache I was referring to and did it on their own free will. It perhaps might of been a mistake that it had gotten posted, but that is not my problem and neither should I or any other person be placed in that position.

 

Once again, thank you Hydee.

 

Brian

 

As long as you're going to think anyway, think big. -Donald Trump

briansnat

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The role as an approver can be very stressful. They are subject to much criticism and being human at times it will get to them. There are ways to deal with that criticism professionally and the majority of the time they do. Their actions are accountable to the community, to Groundspeak, to themselves. In some cases the criticism is formed as an attack on the approver or to the approver. We as a community need to work on those issues. The criticism can be positive and help the approvers, Groundspeak and the community to understand each other and work together.

 

I have nothing but respect for the approvers and am usually one of the first to stick up for them when others start piling on. I've often admired thier ability to be polite and respectful, even while being subjected to harsh and unwarranted criticism and being called all kinds of nasty names.

 

In this case however, if what the approver is accused of is true, I'd certainly have to question his suitability for the job. His actions were mean spirited and childish.

 

"Give a man a fish, he'll eat for a day. Teach a man to fish, he'll sit in a boat and drink beer all day" - Dave Barry

 

[This message was edited by BrianSnat on August 15, 2003 at 04:14 PM.]

Bubba Cache

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Might I suggest that Woodsters also remove his log on the cache page referencing this situation and we move on?

I would say if the approver in question were to apologize, then yes, let us move on. But it is not fair to ask Woodster to drop it considering he didn't ask for it.

 

"Freedom is never given, it is won" A. Phillip Randolph

 

God bless

Jomarac5

Jomarac5

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Bubba Cache wrote:

I would say if the approver in question were to apologize, then yes, let us move on. But it is not fair to ask Woodster to drop it considering he didn't ask for it.

But now you see, if you demand that, then we'll just have to bring up the fact about how annoying Woodsters can be and how that fact probably had a great deal to do with the note posted by the approver.

 

We don't really have to do that, do we?

 

Sometimes, it's much better for all to let it go and move on quietly.

 

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Moun10Bike

Moun10Bike

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Originally posted by nincehelser:

He does have another account, though (I don't know what it is). He says he can post on that one, but no longer as Grajek.

 

I don't know what problems he is having, but he has not been banned or restricted from posting.

 

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yumitori

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Originally posted by hydee:

First of all I would like to apologize on behalf of Groundspeak and the approver for the comments and actions in this situation. In his frustration this situation was dealt with inappropriately.

 

 

Hopefully this will serve as an opprotunity for growth for everyone involved.

 

So, did the cache get unarchived? Under the circumstances, it seems to be the least that could be done.

 

Ron/yumitori

 

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woodsters

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Originally posted by Jomarac5:

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Bubba Cache wrote:

I would say if the approver in question were to apologize, then yes, let us move on. But it is not fair to ask Woodster to drop it considering he didn't ask for it.

But now you see, if you demand that, then we'll just have to bring up the fact about how annoying Woodsters can be and how that fact probably had a great deal to do with the note posted by the approver.

 

We don't really have to do that, do we?

 

Sometimes, it's much better for all to let it go and move on quietly.

 

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Just like moving caches....Annoying? I annoy you because I don't let you run all over me. I annoy you, because I post too much... Oh well be annoyed...I support the site...

 

Bubba, nothing has been said from the approver to me. According to the cache owner, he received an apology from the approver in question. I haven't and don't expect too.

 

yumitori, the cache was changed to a micro by the cache owner. Even though it was said on here that it would be approvable, they did approve it. The cache owner is appreciative of that and so am I.

 

Brian

 

As long as you're going to think anyway, think big. -Donald Trump

Jomarac5

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Woodsters, you make it too easy. You must like being dragged through the mud. You must have forgotten this thread where you took a pounding. Wanna go a round or two? Alright then, let's go...

 

You see, you just don't know when to quit -- you had the full support of everyone on this thread (even mine) but when Hydee neatly tied things up you continued to recap the entire thread in an effort to tell everyone how you were wronged and what a great guy you are. You won man -- you should have quit while you were ahead. And by posting that last post (at 01:21 PM), you stuck your tongue out at the person that wronged you instead of taking it on the chin and being a man about it. You just can't leave well enough alone. Sad really.

 

Bring it on Buckwheat...

 

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briansnat

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Woodster, learn when to stop. You actually have a good number of people who think you were wronged. Don't make them all wish they didn't stick up for you!

 

"Give a man a fish, he'll eat for a day. Teach a man to fish, he'll sit in a boat and drink beer all day" - Dave Barry

woodsters

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The issue of the topic is over and was over when Hydee spoke. I did answer some others posts on here.

 

Um Jomarac5...I don't think I took a pounding on that. I think your activeness in posting on other peoples post , which 90% of the time are off topic, are too just cause a disturbance. As I stated in another thread, I received plenty of support via email concerning that thread. Many of the emails referred you as being one that likes to start things. You are the reason that they need moderators. On this topic, it did not warrant a reply from you as well after Hydee spoke. You were not elected as a mediator. You tried to jump in and tell me to remove my log on the cache as well. You reference that post at 1:21 pm... I posted a thank you to Hydee, I spoke that I felt it was a personal attack on me. That was in reference of soemthing she stated in her post (That "In some cases the criticism is formed as an attack on the approver or to the approver"). I rebutted on this was not an attack on the approver, but felt it was on me.

 

Then afterwards you make a post of "how annoying Woodsters can be and how that fact probably had a great deal to do with the note posted by the approver". You say I don't let things go or know when to quit?

 

Feel free to email me on this. I don't think that the others care to hear our differences.

 

Brian

 

As long as you're going to think anyway, think big. -Donald Trump

Jomarac5

Jomarac5

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Whatever. More of the same.

 

I'm sorry that I stood up for you.

 

Perhaps we should start a new thread titled "Who finds Woodsters annoying?"

 

Learn to let it go man.

 

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Divine

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Originally posted by martmann:

Kind of like "nucular" or "supposably", or "Star Track", or "Walla" (or the various other "Voila" misspellings).

...like 'voila', because it should be spelled 'voilà'.icon_wink.gif

 

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