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I just tried to update the coordinates on a cache of mine to make them a tad more accurate. A 'tad' being one number. I got a red text alert saying the new coordinates are the same as the old coordinates and wouldn't let me update them. 

 

Is there a minimum distance that must be met to update cache coordinates? 

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2 hours ago, DarkZen_EvilCowPie said:

I just tried to update the coordinates on a cache of mine to make them a tad more accurate. A 'tad' being one number. I got a red text alert saying the new coordinates are the same as the old coordinates and wouldn't let me update them. 

 

Is there a minimum distance that must be met to update cache coordinates? 

 

There's no minimum distance, but I had a similar problem a few months ago. I found I had to click somewhere outside the coordinate entry box to make my new coordinates stick.

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2 hours ago, DarkZen_EvilCowPie said:

I just tried to update the coordinates on a cache of mine to make them a tad more accurate. A 'tad' being one number. I got a red text alert saying the new coordinates are the same as the old coordinates and wouldn't let me update them. 

Who codes this stuff? I've made adjustments like that in the past, something must have changed.

Could you do it in two steps? Move it x points over, then x-1 points back??

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50 minutes ago, barefootjeff said:

 

There's no minimum distance, but I had a similar problem a few months ago. I found I had to click somewhere outside the coordinate entry box to make my new coordinates stick.

Well, I tried it a couple of times with no luck. It's just in a weird place that the wrong area seems like its the obvious place. The coords are good enough as they are (despite 2 DNFs), I was just hoping to lead seekers in the right direction. 

 

As for  Moving it x points over, then x-1 points back - It would prob have the same issue if it wont let me move it one number. Maybe move it x+5 and then x-4? But at this point it's not worth it. Maybe I'll just up the difficulty. 

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This may be painfully obvious, but when you say 'one number', WHICH number are you trying to update?

The first digit? The last digit?

 

What's the distance between the current location and you're proposed new spec?

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On 1/27/2025 at 1:19 PM, DarkZen_EvilCowPie said:

Well, I tried it a couple of times with no luck. It's just in a weird place that the wrong area seems like its the obvious place. The coords are good enough as they are (despite 2 DNFs), I was just hoping to lead seekers in the right direction. 

 

As for  Moving it x points over, then x-1 points back - It would prob have the same issue if it wont let me move it one number. Maybe move it x+5 and then x-4? But at this point it's not worth it. Maybe I'll just up the difficulty. 

Upping the difficulty is not an acceptable solution.  Bad coordinates are not one of the aspects of difficulty.  

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From the latitude of one of your caches (N 34° 54), the difference of .001 minutes longitude is 1.52 meters, or 5 feet.

 

A GPS can be that far off on any given day.

 

I wouldn't worry about changing it.

 

EDIT to add: latitude is about 6 feet per .001 minute.

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On 1/27/2025 at 9:27 AM, DarkZen_EvilCowPie said:

I just tried to update the coordinates on a cache of mine to make them a tad more accurate. A 'tad' being one number. I got a red text alert saying the new coordinates are the same as the old coordinates and wouldn't let me update them. 

 

Is there a minimum distance that must be met to update cache coordinates? 


The problem is almost certainly with the way that the cache edit page is implemented.  You have to be sure to click outside of the box is just exactly the right way.  It's bad interface design and implementation, not any minimum distance change.

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On 2/9/2025 at 11:26 AM, NanCycle said:

Upping the difficulty is not an acceptable solution.  Bad coordinates are not one of the aspects of difficulty.  

The coordinates are not bad. The closest I could get is exactly between the cache and a much more attractive (to most cachers) target area. That area being bushes. If I have to err on one side or the other, I'd prefer to not have folks needlessly dig through the underbrush. 

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No need to error on one side or the other. Take you time and get accurate numbers. Use coordinate averaging and test by approaching from different  directions on a few days. 

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On 2/9/2025 at 12:26 PM, NanCycle said:

Upping the difficulty is not an acceptable solution.  Bad coordinates are not one of the aspects of difficulty.  

True most of the time.  But there are cache locations that make getting a decent fix very difficult (for the finder as well), and I've seen that (legitimately, I think) added to the difficulty rating.

 

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This is definitely a bug

 

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It is not about how you "click" it definitely prevents changing the coordinates.

Some programmer didn't compare the numbers but calculates the distance. There is some limit which is about 1 meter

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Please, escalate this to the HQ as soon as possible!

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