+Chuy! Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 (edited) Got this from desertriver. What should I tell Her to do ??? Hi Mark ! Went and got some FTFs this morning then off to the Lagunas where we were not the FTF, however, here is my rant : as we were going in on the trail, two bicyclists almost ran us over - we got right off the trail for them to go by - no thank you, no wave, etc. (which is funny cause at the time I thought to myself that they are acting like they don't want to be seen) and it is clearly CLEARLY marked that no bicycles or horses on trails and the trail entrance is set up in such a way it would be hard to get your bike on the trail and impossible to get a horse on. Anyway, they were two cachers (I know who) as they logged all the logs right before me. And the proof is there that they were cachers cause we followed the bike tracks all the way to the caches which were off the beaten path - no bike rider would just ride off the path where "coincidentally" there were caches. One of the bike riders had a GPS installed on his handlebars, too. Isn't this what causes caching to be kicked out of certain areas, like Borrego Springs, because people don't pay attention to the law.... and if the Rangers at the Laguna park saw that there were cachers bike riding illegally, wouldn't they kick all the caches out of that park? So here's my dilemna, without naming names, and saying such in my logs...... that this is what damage a few can do to a lot ? And I know what their plan is, to get as many as possible, as fast as possible to get to Rolly first. Tomorrow we are going to Lake Morena, which is 9 miles - HIKING ONLY - and I bet their tire tracks will be there. Riding bikes cuts their time two-thirds by getting the caches faster. This isn't sour grapes, it's just - you know - crooked.[/color]So, here's my question: should I make mention of this in my log - or not ? I ask because I want to say something but don't know if it is appropriate. What do you think? Pat. It wasn't us!! Lulu and I were FTF on the ones on the Sunset Trail near Phil's Memorial (Prince, Nipper, Sparky, Ears, Bongo, Eight Ball, Buttons and Typhoon), but we hiked the whole trail... A. Send private email to FlagMan naming names. B. Perps' should post simply "got carried away" apology, forgiveness all around. C. If not B above then associated log entries should be deleted from cache pages. Be square, play fair. If I may add my 2 cents... I don't think they should be allowed to be included in the FTF list. I am certain they know they were not supposed to be on bikes in the area. In yacht racing, when a foul is committed you are generally required to do a 720 penalty turn... (two circles)... Maybe we should make them do the loop twice without bikes... Seriously, though, I've been out on these trails three times and there are bikes allowed on the trail that goes more directly to Phil's Memorial. I don't know if I would have even noticed the sign prohibiting bikes on the other trail. I think a mere mea culpa would be sufficient here... My four cache descriptions clearly indicate no bikes are allowed on that trail. I've been on that trail before the caches and seen bike tracks on it. That being said, they violated a park rule and got away with it. Who are we to police them? If I speed to a cache, should that find be negated? How about parking on a bike lane or red curb to grab a cache? I would not hesitate naming names - If you can't do the time (sort of speak), don't do the crime. I once called out BBB for biking at Horsethief Canyon. He said it was his first time down there and he sped past the signs. Yesterday, Ginger! and Mocha! ignored signs against dogs at the beach at the Fidget Dalmatian cache. Should we take away that find? They say no. Edited November 5, 2008 by Chuy! Quote Link to comment
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