Dormant categories

January 31, 2016

It seems there is lots of talk about getting way marks approved when the officers have gone awol. When this happens maybe the category could be labelled as dormant and no new way marks accepted until there are new officers. The category could be put on the list of open for new officers. Existing way marks waiting could be approved or disapproved by officers with "skeleton keys."

Criteria for how long waymarks wait, or how long since the officers have logged on, or unresponsiveness, etc. This action could be a warning for people trying to post and serve as recruitment for new officers.

You already have the ability to mark categories as closed to new way marks and the means to recruit new officers. This just limits the frustration of people posting and waiting. Once the category is dormant they know they have to wait for new officers.

1.4k · February 1, 2016

There have been a lot of suggestions to solve this problem. They usually share one disadvantage, and yours is no exception. Whatever it is it needs some modification of the Waymarking site. But Groundspeak is not going to change any code in the foreseeable future. Waymarking is in maintenance mode without any new features, no matter how small the changes.

I personally do not like the idea of temporarily closing a category. It would punish the posters for the failure of the officers. This would not be fair.

5.7k · March 2, 2016

As for myself, I'm really tired of posting new Waymarks and having to contact category leaders and officers weeks later and asking them to please review my new Waymarks.

1.4k · March 3, 2016

It's pretty easy, if a Waymark is waiting longer than 10 days, write a mail to Waywizard and the Waymark will be approved very fast (if the wm is okay).

I would guess that 95% of our categories are faster than 10 days. If a category needs longer than 10 days post the name here and we will work on that problem.

5.7k · March 3, 2016

It's pretty easy, if a Waymark is waiting longer than 10 days, write a mail to Waywizard and the Waymark will be approved very fast (if the wm is okay).

I'm sure that Wawizard would help... but this is not acceptable. These same people are often active in other categories. The Waymarking site is slow and difficult to use as it is.

After a while I'm sure many just give up, and forget about attracting new members to the site.

March 3, 2016

Is Waywizard a new name created for this function or an actual person/team? I was just hunting around for a way to look at the profile but haven't found one (no link here). I don't recognize the name from the forum or the lists of waymarkers over 1000.

I was half thinking of volunteering to join the reviewers, but don't know if I am ready or expert enough to do a good job in any area.

I do know that I disagreed a couple times when the reviewer got into a comment of what was art or not. I have thought about that and taken classes etc. and have a different opinion.

Also I don't know if reviewers really want to get into discussions. The only way I have entered discussions were when there was a rejection and I managed to usually give more information and change their mind.

March 3, 2016

I have been around behind the scenes as an admin for the Waymarking site since 2008, you will not see any Waymarks posted under that account but I have full understanding of Waymarking. If there is a category that you have Waymarks waiting an extended period of time you can post the category in the forums as I watch the forums for issue or you can send me an email.

5.7k · March 4, 2016

If there is a category that you have Waymarks waiting an extended period of time you can post the category in the forums as I watch the forums for issue or you can send me an email.

I posted four new WM's in the Kentucky Historical Markers category on 2/11/16, one was published quickly, the other three are stuck. I have contacted the manager, but no reply.

Thank you for your assistance.

March 4, 2016

And I have had this submission http://www.Waymarking.com/waymarks/WMNNG6_Flower_Fields_Rocks__Carslbad_CA waiting for the results of a vote in the Rock and Mineral Displays category for almost a year. Contacted the leader...no response.

March 4, 2016

And I have had this submission http://www.Waymarking.com/waymarks/WMNNG6_Flower_Fields_Rocks__Carslbad_CA waiting for the results of a vote in the Rock and Mineral Displays category for almost a year. Contacted the leader...no response.

This is one area (waymarks stuck in vote limbo) I can't fix however in this case I would contact the second officer listed for the category as they are usually quite responsive.

Edited March 4, 2016 by Waywizard

March 4, 2016

I generally regard waymarks as old after several months. I have had a waymark hang around for 6 months and then get published. I do have one where I just sent a note to one of the group. None of them have logged on for awhile (since last October). It is in Civilian Conservation Corps, McDonough State Forest WMPZMQ posted 11/18/2015 5:34:01 AM. I did notice that they are accepting new members to their group.

March 4, 2016

I generally regard waymarks as old after several months. I have had a waymark hang around for 6 months and then get published. I do have one where I just sent a note to one of the group. None of them have logged on for awhile (since last October). It is in Civilian Conservation Corps, McDonough State Forest WMPZMQ posted 11/18/2015 5:34:01 AM. I did notice that they are accepting new members to their group.

Thank you.

March 4, 2016

About the vote limbo, we have successfully contacted group leaders and waymarks were approved, a few were denied. (Which is okay) As an officer of a few groups, if a waymark is in vote limbo, we just edit the submitted waymark making a very slight change and resubmit and it is brought back into the queue, so we can either approved or deny. Be aware by doing this the submitter will receive a new email about the pending waymark. However an approval or denial will be forthcoming.

The only thing that is required to release a waymark that is stuck in "limbo" is an officer in the group to visit the group page. Any waymarks which were stuck in limbo for that group's category will be released automatically. To check which of your groups have pending votes (thus possibly waymarks stuck) click on group tab on the top of the page and it will list which groups have pending votes with a link to the group page, by clicking link any in vote limbo will be released.

1.4k · May 30, 2016

Looks like everything is fine. :grin:

May 30, 2016

Strange, I see Silverquill is the leader. He's pretty much a veteran waymarker.

May 30, 2016

Sorry for the lag here! I thought I had a good group of active officers for this group to share the reviewing load. I'll check with them and recruit some new ones of necessary.

I just have not been able to be as active in Waymarking as I would like -- a combination of moves, work, family and church that have filled most of my time. Mostly good stuff, but it all has limited me. I try to check in frequently, but there are periods... I will go through the groups where I'm leader to make wure i have better coverage. Those where I am not leader, but maybe one of the few active officers will be more difficult, but I will do my best.

Thanks for the note from Lumbricus!!

(Caught me at home on this U.S. holiday, taking care of a sick family).

~~Larry (siverquill)

Danvers, MA

1.1k · July 11, 2016

One shouldn't have to do this, but I recently found that -- in one category -- after waiting 2 weeks with no approval, I just canceled the submission (via edit, but with no changes) and then resubmitted it, to cause extra emails in the reviewers' inboxes. Surprise, surprise. (Or is it?) A couple of hours later they were approved.

Like I say, one should not have to do that, and I wouldn't recommend it for anything less than a couple of weeks. But if they hadn't gone ahead and approved it shortly after my resubmission trick, I'd probably have done so once every day until they had approved it.

Some of the officers were logging in during those two weeks, and none of them were user IDs that have a huge number of categories to keep up with (like, say, lumbricus!). They were just ignoring the submissions.

1.5k · July 11, 2016

Rather than re-submit, I just keep adding more Canadian Benchmarks to the queue. That is obviously not working either.

1.5k · July 11, 2016

BK-Hunters, if you succeed at becoming officer, I guess that I better attempt that too so that someone can review your submissions.

1.4k · July 14, 2016

...What can be really done to promote new officers in categories that are inactive; when your emails are ignored?

Just write it here in the forum. Waywizard or myself will fix it together with Groundspeaks help. If the Canadian Benchmarks category should be a problem in the future new officers will be promoted quickly.

July 17, 2016

I have a submission from 6/22/2016 in Carnivorous plant localities, Lily Lake - Chenango Valley State Park,

This isn't a month ago but it is a few weeks.

Thanks,

Ripraff

1.4k · July 22, 2016

I have a submission from 6/22/2016 in Carnivorous plant localities, Lily Lake - Chenango Valley State Park,

This isn't a month ago but it is a few weeks.

Thanks,

Ripraff

It's now online published by an officer.

July 24, 2016

I don't know if it has been suggested but if a waymark isn't approved after 14 days it should automatically be approved.

July 25, 2016

I have a submission from 6/22/2016 in Carnivorous plant localities, Lily Lake - Chenango Valley State Park,

This isn't a month ago but it is a few weeks.

Thanks,

Ripraff

It's now online published by an officer.

Thanks, I particularly like this one.

August 3, 2016

I sent this email to the leader and members of Iron Furnace Ruins

kJfishman says,

FYI: http://www.Waymarking.com/waymarks/WMR9T1_Mohawk_Stamp_Mill_Ruins_Gay_MI has been in que since 5/28/16 Thanks Kent

I sent this email to the leader and members of Quaker Meeting Houses category

kJfishman says,

http://www.Waymarking.com/waymarks/WMQWTC_First_Society_of_Friends_Meeting_Hall_West_branch_IA has been in the waiting on group vote stage for sometime. The waymark was submitted 4/7/2016. It was the as the title states the first meeting hall until they outgrew it. Thanks Kent

Both waymarks are still open.

9.2k · August 4, 2016

I sent this email to the leader and members of Iron Furnace Ruins

kJfishman says,

FYI: http://www.Waymarking.com/waymarks/WMR9T1_Mohawk_Stamp_Mill_Ruins_Gay_MI has been in que since 5/28/16 Thanks Kent

I've just declined your waymark (copper mine facilities aren't classic iron furnaces). There are no other waymarks pending in this category.

Where's the witch hunting thread for posting waymarks that don't meet the category requirements?

August 16, 2016

I just added another waymark to the NY historical signs category. That makes 9 going back to July 19. I was going to wait three more days so that the newest would age and the original would make a month anniversary. If these were approved I would make it more than halfway to my next milestone. Why is waiting hard? In general having a backlog doesn't bother me. Usually there are several in the queue. If I make my next target, the next milestone, I will just need a new target,mmm. I filled in the graph for days of the year and it has been over a year steady with waymarks...The milestone is just sooooo close. In general NY historical signs has been steady in approving waymarks. I wonder if they are on vacation or something has happened.

Edited August 16, 2016 by ripraff

1.4k · August 19, 2016

Thanks again lumbricus for keeping the "Unique Steeples" category current.

We have accepted the invitation to join the group. We are willing to be an officer if help is needed.

Gee, just got our first submission to review in the Unique Steeples category.

Hooray, we are now an officer.

Great!

August 22, 2016

I just added another waymark to the NY historical signs category. That makes 9 going back to July 19. I was going to wait three more days so that the newest would age and the original would make a month anniversary. If these were approved I would make it more than halfway to my next milestone. Why is waiting hard? In general having a backlog doesn't bother me. Usually there are several in the queue. If I make my next target, the next milestone, I will just need a new target,mmm. I filled in the graph for days of the year and it has been over a year steady with waymarks...The milestone is just sooooo close. In general NY historical signs has been steady in approving waymarks. I wonder if they are on vacation or something has happened.

Thank you, about a dozen were just approved (from the last month till yesterday).

I joined the group, this doesn't help with mine but...

1.4k · August 23, 2016

I just added another waymark to the NY historical signs category. That makes 9 going back to July 19. I was going to wait three more days so that the newest would age and the original would make a month anniversary. If these were approved I would make it more than halfway to my next milestone. Why is waiting hard? In general having a backlog doesn't bother me. Usually there are several in the queue. If I make my next target, the next milestone, I will just need a new target,mmm. I filled in the graph for days of the year and it has been over a year steady with waymarks...The milestone is just sooooo close. In general NY historical signs has been steady in approving waymarks. I wonder if they are on vacation or something has happened.

Thank you, about a dozen were just approved (from the last month till yesterday).

I joined the group, this doesn't help with mine but...

I called a vote to promote you. :antenna:

1.2k · September 21, 2016

I have an Australian Historical marker waiting over 1 month, and no response to emails.

YAYYYY my waymarks were approved this morning, 21 Sep 2016

Edited September 21, 2016 by Benchmark Blasterz

January 7, 2017

Waywizard, Thank you for approving our pending waymarks.

I see what you meant about the themed mailbox and it being denied.

I see this one has become a subject of interest on the dormant categories list. I now have a my first waymark in this category waiting for over a week. Sent reminder e-mails to all officers with offer to become an officer. Last waymark reviewed was in September by Waywizard.

Last review by a category officer was August by Necromancer2K4.

Will continue to monitor the situation.

5.7k · January 7, 2017

Last review by a category officer was August by Necromancer2K4.

Will continue to monitor the situation.

How can this be considered a dormant category if an office signs in to review every few months?

When I started Waymarking, it was common to have to contact an officer and ask for a review, after a couple of weeks. :anibad:

Sure, I didn't like it, and got fed up with it. I put a few categories on my ignore list, you know we have one of those don't you? :anicute:

Just because an account does not appear to have signed on in some time doesn't mean it's inactive. Most of us are geocachers too.

January 7, 2017

Just because an account does not appear to have signed on in some time doesn't mean it's inactive. Most of us are geocachers too.

I sent an e-mail and didn't get a reply. How hard is it to reply to an e-mail with a simple "will get to it". And BTW why is it objectionable to send an e-mail after a week? I didn't say the category was dormant, just worth monitoring.

5.7k · January 7, 2017

Just because an account does not appear to have signed on in some time doesn't mean it's inactive. Most of us are geocachers too.

I sent an e-mail and didn't get a reply. How hard is it to reply to an e-mail with a simple "will get to it". And BTW why is it objectionable to send an e-mail after a week? I didn't say the category was dormant, just worth monitoring.

I communicate with emails all the time, sounds like you are being ignored. Truthfully, I think you are putting Waywizard on the spot.

It's not objectionable to send an email after a week, I didn't say it was.

Category not dormant? Why mention it in a Dormant category thread?

5.7k · June 13, 2017

Justin's Caboose ~ 557709 ~ Ringley Park in Coeburn, Virginia.

1.4k · June 14, 2017

Justin's Caboose ~ 557709 ~ Ringley Park in Coeburn, Virginia.

This one is published now. Regards, -lumbricus

5.7k · June 14, 2017

Justin's Caboose ~ 557709 ~ Ringley Park in Coeburn, Virginia.

This one is published now. Regards, -lumbricus

Thank you lumbricus. I don't ask much from the Waymarking community, I just don't create very many WM's at all but I do come across quite a few of these old train cabooses here in coal country.

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