+St.Matthew Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 Now that I finally have my hands on some ammo cans, I'd like to eventually place a multi stage geocache in one of my local public parks. I've done a few multi-stage cahces in the woods, and I've seen different materials used. Sometimes the stages are in containers, sometimes not. What is relatively cheap, yet durable and weather resistant way to create the stages leading up to the final? Someone recommended dog tags from the kiosk at WalMart, but those are 5 bucks a pop. Any help is appreciated. Quote Link to comment
z0mbieCache Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 I was on one where the first step was a magnetic strip (like those business card magnets) with the coordinates written on it It was stuck to the framing under a park bench you can probably score those pretty cheap (ebay?) Quote Link to comment
GOF and Bacall Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 I have used a label maker. The plastic strips are durable and water proof. Print the N/S coordinates on one piece and the E/W on another. Then stick 'em together back to back. Then you can stuff 'em in any cheap container. Even a film can will do. Quote Link to comment
+NYPaddleCacher Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 I did a nice multi once where the CO used a rock. He painted the coordinates on the flat side of the rock. Quote Link to comment
+briansnat Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 (edited) I like using these copper plant tags. Very durable and after a while they develop a patina and are pretty camouflaged. Also soda bottle preforms. Waterproof matchboxes (usually under a dollar at Walmart) Edited August 13, 2011 by briansnat Quote Link to comment
+Isonzo Karst Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 A common stage here is a matchsafe container ($1 from big box stores in the camping area), with a piece of small diameter pvc pipe inside. Coords written on this with indelible marker. I've seen wood dowels used too, but they'll mildew, even if the matchsafe stays dry. Paper works, but even using waterproof paper is less hardy then the pvc option. I do 2 things to those matchsafes 1) black paint or camo tape 2) wire tie a D ring to them so they're easy to hang using braided nylon, or wire. Quote Link to comment
+NanCycle Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 I'm planning one where I intend to use a piece of board (not plywood) about 3 by 4 inches by 1/2 or 5/8 inch thick. I'm thinking of writing the coordinates on the wood (maybe permanent marker, or maybe paint) and then coating with varathane or something like that to keep it weather-resistant. It will then also be inside something else (I don't want to say what) for a bit more protection. This sounds cheap & durable to me; what do you think? Quote Link to comment
AZcachemeister Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 I'm planning one where I intend to use a piece of board (not plywood) about 3 by 4 inches by 1/2 or 5/8 inch thick. I'm thinking of writing the coordinates on the wood (maybe permanent marker, or maybe paint) and then coating with varathane or something like that to keep it weather-resistant. It will then also be inside something else (I don't want to say what) for a bit more protection. This sounds cheap & durable to me; what do you think? Router(no, not the networking device). Quote Link to comment
Clan Riffster Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 A common stage here is a matchsafe container with a piece of small diameter pvc pipe inside. I did a Postpile multi on the Hillsburrough River that used those. I was quite impressed. Some, (all?) of the stages showed signs of having spent a considerable time underwater during the past flood, and one was even full of water. The coords on the PVC were quite legible. I fixed up a multi of mine using a similar method, substituting preforms for matchsafes. Quote Link to comment
Clan Riffster Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 I'm planning one where I intend to use a piece of board I've got a simple two stage multi where stage 1 is affixed to the bottom of a mostly submerged log. I wanted something that would stand the test of time, so I bought a cheap cutting board, hacked off a chunk of it and engraved the coords in it with a Dremmel. Quote Link to comment
Mr.Yuck Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 I like using these copper plant tags. Very durable and after a while they develop a patina and are pretty camouflaged. Also soda bottle preforms. Waterproof matchboxes (usually under a dollar at Walmart) How about some nice, big, friggin' Lock-n-Lock containers for stages of the multi? Always wondered why the game developed in a way that it's almost universal world-wide that stages of a multi-cache are "micros in the woods"??? Not to give them a plug, and I'm definitely not, seeing as I don't remember their name, but a vendor at Geowoodstock was selling what were essentially camo tags about the size of TB dog tags that you could zip tie to a tree. They were very well done, but not too much different I suppose than the plant tags Briansnat is mentioning. Quote Link to comment
Night_Hiker Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 You can do a lot if you have a wood burner. I use it to put the geo symbol in birdhouse caches and things like that. Would be good to have a wood strips with the coords on them and if burned deep would last the test of time rather well. Plus wood burning is pretty fun lol Quote Link to comment
+Isonzo Karst Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 How about some nice, big, friggin' Lock-n-Lock containers for stages of the multi? Always wondered why the game developed in a way that it's almost universal world-wide that stages of a multi-cache are "micros ... Micros are cheaper, that's why. I've used lock & locks, and find them not to be durable. Bought in sets on sale at about $2 each, I'd call them them cheap, but they'll need to be replaced every 2 - 3 years (sub tropical environment, the seal fails, or if they get much sun, they'll break up. For the price, the matchsafe or preform option is cheaper and holds up better for simply housing stage coords, clues, or offset instructions. I've wanted to try the copper plant tags, but the initial investment is high. I've owned a number of multicache where the stages where all ammo cans. Back in the day, when I was paying $3 for 30m cans, that was a cheap durable container. There are a number of multis with ammo can stages around here. One of my oldest multi-cache uses flat stainless rod, the coords inked on it with an indelible marker (think surveyor stake). This is fabulous, but the rod was part of a bunch of can-line salvage laying around the property (from the demise of an orange juice packing company.) Great material, but pricey to buy retail. Quote Link to comment
Mr.Yuck Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 How about some nice, big, friggin' Lock-n-Lock containers for stages of the multi? Always wondered why the game developed in a way that it's almost universal world-wide that stages of a multi-cache are "micros ... Micros are cheaper, that's why. I've used lock & locks, and find them not to be durable. Bought in sets on sale at about $2 each, I'd call them them cheap, but they'll need to be replaced every 2 - 3 years (sub tropical environment, the seal fails, or if they get much sun, they'll break up. For the price, the matchsafe or preform option is cheaper and holds up better for simply housing stage coords, clues, or offset instructions. I've wanted to try the copper plant tags, but the initial investment is high. I've owned a number of multicache where the stages where all ammo cans. Back in the day, when I was paying $3 for 30m cans, that was a cheap durable container. There are a number of multis with ammo can stages around here. One of my oldest multi-cache uses flat stainless rod, the coords inked on it with an indelible marker (think surveyor stake). This is fabulous, but the rod was part of a bunch of can-line salvage laying around the property (from the demise of an orange juice packing company.) Great material, but pricey to buy retail. Interesting stuff, thanks for the perspective from an old-timer. It's pretty easy to trace the orgins of the multicache in my area, one guy did like the first 10 of them in 2002, and 2003 (then moved out of the area in 2003). All micro in the woods stages, usually matchstick containers. He also introduced the Bison Tube to our area. People were like amazed by them in 2003. I admit to just responding to Snat, and not really reading the OP the first time. What I mentioned in my first post, aluminum tags specifically meant to be stages of multi caches were being sold at Geowoodstock. Anyone? They were quite inexpensive, compared to the $5 apiece dog tags the OP was thinking about. Quote Link to comment
+Tequila Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 I used film canisters. Inside I put the coordinates using small beads preprinted with numbers. They are available at most craft stores. I tied the beads together with strong fish line and used the same fish line to secure the film canisters to branches. The beads are plastic and the numbers do not fade or bleed if they get wet. Quote Link to comment
Clan Riffster Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 ...aluminum tags specifically meant to be stages of multi caches were being sold at Geowoodstock. Anyone? GxProxy sells something like you describe; http://www.shop.gxproxy.com/MultiMarx-5pk-for-Multi-Caches-MX000010.htm I have no idea if they are any good or not. Quote Link to comment
+Isonzo Karst Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 Re dog tags at $5 a pop. They're available online for $2.39 each at pettags4less. Free shipping. A pretty good price. But you have to be 100% sure of the coords... Quote Link to comment
AZcachemeister Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 I used film canisters. Inside I put the coordinates using small beads preprinted with numbers. They are available at most craft stores. I tied the beads together with strong fish line and used the same fish line to secure the film canisters to branches. The beads are plastic and the numbers do not fade or bleed if they get wet. AWESOME IDEA! Quote Link to comment
+briansnat Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 I like using these copper plant tags. Very durable and after a while they develop a patina and are pretty camouflaged. Also soda bottle preforms. Waterproof matchboxes (usually under a dollar at Walmart) How about some nice, big, friggin' Lock-n-Lock containers for stages of the multi? Always wondered why the game developed in a way that it's almost universal world-wide that stages of a multi-cache are "micros in the woods"??? Not to give them a plug, and I'm definitely not, seeing as I don't remember their name, but a vendor at Geowoodstock was selling what were essentially camo tags about the size of TB dog tags that you could zip tie to a tree. They were very well done, but not too much different I suppose than the plant tags Briansnat is mentioning. I've noticed micros or very small containers as the interim stages of multis pretty much since I started caching. In fact I use them myself. My reason for doing it is so it doesn't cost me $25-$40 just for the containers for my multi caches. Quote Link to comment
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