Hiders with no finds

[+do not resuscitate]

I happened to look up a cache owner's profile to discover she has been a geocacher for 7 years but has not found any caches and has actually hidden 110. It's been my state of mind that you need to have some caching experience before you start hiding caches. It bugs me when someone is introduced to caching but all they can think about is hiding them. I live in Los Angeles and am a urban cacher and have many times been angered by poorly placed caches with bad coordinates by newbies who don't know what they are doing. However, I have found some of the aforementioned lady's caches and there are no complaints about her hides even tho she has never found any. Makes me rethink my stance on newbies hiding them.

[+John in Valley Forge]

Has it been 24 hours since this topic was last dicussed?

[knowschad]

How do you know that she has no finds? She may have chosen to not log them online, or she may cache under a different name. There are probably other possibilities that I'm just not thinking of right now.

 

I would hardly consider somebody with 110 hides to be a newbie, by the way, regardless of how few finds they may have.

Edited July 29, 2011 by knowschad

[+cache_test_dummies]

I happened to look up a cache owner's profile to discover she has been a geocacher for 7 years but has not found any caches and has actually hidden 110.

Some cachers don't log their finds online. It is quite possible (likely, even) that this geocacher has many finds under their belt.

[+mpilchfamily]

Some people will use a couple of accounts. One they hunt under the other they hide under allowing themselves to log there hides. The hides may be under a team name.

 

Do you really consider someone with a 7 year old account and 110 hides a newbie?

[Mr.Yuck]

I happened to look up a cache owner's profile to discover she has been a geocacher for 7 years but has not found any caches and has actually hidden 110. It's been my state of mind that you need to have some caching experience before you start hiding caches. It bugs me when someone is introduced to caching but all they can think about is hiding them. I live in Los Angeles and am a urban cacher and have many times been angered by poorly placed caches with bad coordinates by newbies who don't know what they are doing. However, I have found some of the aforementioned lady's caches and there are no complaints about her hides even tho she has never found any. Makes me rethink my stance on newbies hiding them.

 

Here ya' go. A non-online logger from my area with 49 hides I know the guy finds caches. I've seen his name in logbooks. He's attended an event, and I met him (only for a minute or two).

 

So don't get a warm fuzzy feeling about the middle school aged kid tossing a chinese fast food container with a slip of paper into some bushes just yet.

[+Panther&Pine]

There is at least one cacher in my area that uses "Write a Note" to log his finds, he's a fairly prolific hider (Death From Below).

[+Bear and Ragged]

A big series in the UK, set with a 'theme' hidden by a '0 Finds' cacher.

Actually set up by a well known cacher with thousands of finds, but set under another name to add to the mystery.

[4wheelin_fool]

Some geocachers keep their hide account separate from their find account to make it more mysterious about who they are, and to insulate themselves from thin skinned cache owners who may not enjoy their honest find logs, or NA's.

 

They may also log finds under a team or family account, but place hides under a singular one to keep things organized.

Edited July 29, 2011 by 4wheelin_fool

[+dfx]

There is at least one cacher in my area that uses "Write a Note" to log his finds, he's a fairly prolific hider (Death From Below).

 

Interesting. I've always thought that the only (?) reason for doing it that way was refusal to participate in the numbers game. But this one has full-blown statistics on his profile, so that can't be it.

Edited July 29, 2011 by dfx

[Pup Patrol]

I happened to look up a cache owner's profile to discover she has been a geocacher for 7 years but has not found any caches and has actually hidden 110. It's been my state of mind that you need to have some caching experience before you start hiding caches. It bugs me when someone is introduced to caching but all they can think about is hiding them. I live in Los Angeles and am a urban cacher and have many times been angered by poorly placed caches with bad coordinates by newbies who don't know what they are doing. However, I have found some of the aforementioned lady's caches and there are no complaints about her hides even tho she has never found any. Makes me rethink my stance on newbies hiding them.

 

Um, that ain't no newbie.

 

Someone who got a free PM because of a commercial promotion, and is out placing caches within a week or so, that's a newbie.

 

There's a lot of reasons why the field for the cache owner's name does not reflect their caching experience/history. And you've gotten a couple of them already.

[+Gitchee-Gummee]

Ehhhhhh...

 

Many of the reviewers cache under a different username. Many of those reviewers' names show "0" or very few finds.

 

Just pointing out that what you may perceive as one thing, may very well not be the case at all!

[+Panther&Pine]

There is at least one cacher in my area that uses "Write a Note" to log his finds, he's a fairly prolific hider (Death From Below).

 

Interesting. I've always thought that the only (?) reason for doing it that way was refusal to participate in the numbers game. But this one has full-blown statistics on his profile, so that can't be it.

Profile in Question, You know I've never asked him. Personal preference I guess.

[+JL_HSTRE]

There is at least one cacher in my area that uses "Write a Note" to log his finds, he's a fairly prolific hider (Death From Below).

 

Interesting. I've always thought that the only (?) reason for doing it that way was refusal to participate in the numbers game. But this one has full-blown statistics on his profile, so that can't be it.

Profile in Question, You know I've never asked him. Personal preference I guess.

 

Based on his profile, he tracks his Finds via GSAK. Very curious. Really concerned about their privacy I guess?

[+Panther&Pine]

There is at least one cacher in my area that uses "Write a Note" to log his finds, he's a fairly prolific hider (Death From Below).

 

Interesting. I've always thought that the only (?) reason for doing it that way was refusal to participate in the numbers game. But this one has full-blown statistics on his profile, so that can't be it.

Profile in Question, You know I've never asked him. Personal preference I guess.

 

Based on his profile, he tracks his Finds via GSAK. Very curious. Really concerned about their privacy I guess?

Not that I've noticed from meeting him. Maybe he used GSAK all along and when the built in stats came up he just opted out because he likes the GSAK ones better?

I'll have to ask him at the CITO in September.

[+Bear and Ragged]

There is at least one cacher in my area that uses "Write a Note" to log his finds, he's a fairly prolific hider (Death From Below).

 

Interesting. I've always thought that the only (?) reason for doing it that way was refusal to participate in the numbers game. But this one has full-blown statistics on his profile, so that can't be it.

Profile in Question, You know I've never asked him. Personal preference I guess.

 

Based on his profile, he tracks his Finds via GSAK. Very curious. Really concerned about their privacy I guess?

Not that I've noticed from meeting him. Maybe he used GSAK all along and when the built in stats came up he just opted out because he likes the GSAK ones better?

I'll have to ask him at the CITO in September.

There is quite a bit of privicy there.

He only lists FTF's and milestone caches.

(And Fizzy puzzle caches, and the state challenge... But. Still only a small % of his finds)

[+Manville Possum]

There is a user in my area with quite a few hides and few finds, but I find their name signed and dated in many of my cache logs that are on hiking trails. They just never log online.

[+power69]

Some people will use a couple of accounts. One they hunt under the other they hide under allowing themselves to log there hides.

thats a whole nother rant if you're a purist.

[+CanadianRockies]

Here's an account with 0 finds and 288 hides.