+NYPaddleCacher Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 Would anyone here be able to identify a photo of what I believe may be bear scat? I had was out looking for a new cache today and on the way back to my vehicle I came across some scat that looked to be too big for a deer or dog and it was in a spot where there wouldn't be any cows or horses. I took a photo (which I can post) and compared it to some images I found on the 'net and it looks pretty close. I know that there are black bear in my area (one walked through my inlaws property last year) but this was about 50' from where my son was taking an after school class. What also made the incident interesting was I was looking for a cache that was somewhat of a needle in a haystack. After searching for awhile I gave up and headed back to my car. During the search I grabbed something that assumed was left by someone else in the area and was doing a bit of CITO. After I got home I was thinking that I needed to log my DNF and remembered the CITO in my pocket. I took it out, opened it up and discovered that I had the cache. Now, I've got to go back out tomorrow and replace the cache and log the FTF. Quote Link to comment
knowschad Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 Actually, a Google image search will turn up a whole lot more, but this is a start: http://www.bear-tracker.com/blackbearscat.html Quote Link to comment
+contifor Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 (edited) how do I get to see the photo of the scat? might be able to help but as a general rule black b. scat has no bell mail is gpwhite@shaw.ca Edited September 18, 2010 by contifor Quote Link to comment
+BlueDeuce Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 do be do be do - Sinatra scat. Quote Link to comment
+briansnat Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 Bear scat is a very common sight in northern NJ. I certainly can ID it. Found it in my backyard a few times and nearly always see it when we're out caching. And sometimes we see its owner. Quote Link to comment
+Harry Dolphin Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 Bear scat will vary considerably, depending what's available in the local supermarket. Generally large plops, about a foot round. Generally blak in color. Juicier during blueberry season, than during acorn season. As a former trail maintainer, I have noticed that bear like to deposit their scat in the middle of trails! Quote Link to comment
BigC847 Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 Was it in the woods?!?!? That would finally answer a very important question i have been asked many times! Quote Link to comment
knowschad Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 Was it in the woods?!?!? That would finally answer a very important question i have been asked many times! Is the Pope Catholic? Quote Link to comment
+Fusilli Jerry Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 I have noticed that bear like to deposit their scat in the middle of trails! quoted for truth Quote Link to comment
knowschad Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 I may not always know what sort of animal deposited said scat, but I have absolutely NO problem identifying scat. I always try to step around it. Quote Link to comment
jholly Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 Was it in the woods?!?!? That would finally answer a very important question i have been asked many times! I've always wondered, is Polar bear scat in the woods? Quote Link to comment
BigC847 Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 Scat Man John says- This is black bear scat.... (ok, just wanted to use the scat man reference, sorry) Quote Link to comment
+scaramedic Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 (ok, just wanted to use the scat man reference, sorry) It's understandable my first thought when I saw the title of this thread was... Quote Link to comment
+Ambrosia Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 Here's a picture that I posted awhile ago, in a related thread, from Mountain Marsh: Quote Link to comment
7rxc Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 Some points often used in Bear training around these parts... >>text The best bear defence is noise. Most bears, particularly bears in hunting areas, avoid man at all costs. There are just three really unpredictable bear types: 1.) A sow with cubs. 2.) A bear on a kill and 3.) All the rest of 'em. ==== Ranger tells everyone to wear bells around their neck and carry pepper spray to ward off bear attack. The bells alert the bears to your presence and the spray is a last ditch, ten feet, "hail Mary", when all else fails. He tells the hikers that there are two kinds of bears in the area: Grizzlies and Black bears. He then tells them that they need to recognize the bear's scat so they can tell the two species apart. He says that black bears are much less likely to attack, so when they see black bear scat, they may continue. But if they encounter grizzly scat, they should give the area a wide berth. A tourist asks how to tell the difference. The ranger replies," Easy, black bears are grazers, more than fish eaters. The black bear scat is usually full of blackberry seeds, hackberrys and acorns and other plant life and it smells like almonds. Grizzly scat is larger, is full of bells and smells like pepper spray.... endtext << Doug 7rxc Quote Link to comment
+Scooter Rider Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 Do you have a flash light? Why yes I do. Well turn it on. Click See I told you it was bear scat. Yes you were right to bad we were so wrapped up arguing about the scat on the ground That we didn't see the bear that ate us coming. Quote Link to comment
+NYPaddleCacher Posted September 18, 2010 Author Share Posted September 18, 2010 Here's a picture that I posted awhile ago, in a related thread, from Mountain Marsh: And here is the photo I took... Quote Link to comment
Windcalmer Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 Yup! You got bear scat. No doubt about it. That is not a full grow bear either or does it look small to everyone else? Quote Link to comment
+NYPaddleCacher Posted September 18, 2010 Author Share Posted September 18, 2010 Yup! You got bear scat. No doubt about it. That is not a full grow bear either or does it look small to everyone else? Perhaps the size and quantiy can be attributed to where I found it. As I said, it was about 50-100' or so from a building where my son (along with about 40 other kids between 4-12 years old). The building is located in town but there was a direct path from a woody area. If the bear was hungry it might wander closer to civilization than it normally would. Quote Link to comment
sabrefan7 Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 We were camping at Eighth Lake (Adirondacks) one year I took My wife, mother/father in law brother/sister in law and nephew one a short hike to bug lake. We came across what I knew was bear scat but my brother in law said "no way its a dog" I got a stick,, poked it to open it up some and told them all,,, Dogs dont eat fish with the scales still on! I now hike (and cache) by my self! Quote Link to comment
+Ambrosia Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 Yup! Looks about the same. <photo snippy> And here is the photo I took... <photo snippy> Quote Link to comment
+the4dirtydogs Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 Some points often used in Bear training around these parts... >>text The best bear defence is noise. Most bears, particularly bears in hunting areas, avoid man at all costs. There are just three really unpredictable bear types: 1.) A sow with cubs. 2.) A bear on a kill and 3.) All the rest of 'em. ==== Ranger tells everyone to wear bells around their neck and carry pepper spray to ward off bear attack. The bells alert the bears to your presence and the spray is a last ditch, ten feet, "hail Mary", when all else fails. He tells the hikers that there are two kinds of bears in the area: Grizzlies and Black bears. He then tells them that they need to recognize the bear's scat so they can tell the two species apart. He says that black bears are much less likely to attack, so when they see black bear scat, they may continue. But if they encounter grizzly scat, they should give the area a wide berth. A tourist asks how to tell the difference. The ranger replies," Easy, black bears are grazers, more than fish eaters. The black bear scat is usually full of blackberry seeds, hackberrys and acorns and other plant life and it smells like almonds. Grizzly scat is larger, is full of bells and smells like pepper spray.... endtext << Doug 7rxc TOO FUNNY I tell my wife that. The bells are to let the bears know its dinner time and the pepper spay is like the hot sauce, just spay yourself before you get eaten. Quote Link to comment
+Tequila Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 Would anyone here be able to identify a photo of what I believe may be bear scat? I had was out looking for a new cache today and on the way back to my vehicle I came across some scat that looked to be too big for a deer or dog and it was in a spot where there wouldn't be any cows or horses. I took a photo (which I can post) and compared it to some images I found on the 'net and it looks pretty close. I know that there are black bear in my area (one walked through my inlaws property last year) but this was about 50' from where my son was taking an after school class. What also made the incident interesting was I was looking for a cache that was somewhat of a needle in a haystack. After searching for awhile I gave up and headed back to my car. During the search I grabbed something that assumed was left by someone else in the area and was doing a bit of CITO. After I got home I was thinking that I needed to log my DNF and remembered the CITO in my pocket. I took it out, opened it up and discovered that I had the cache. Now, I've got to go back out tomorrow and replace the cache and log the FTF. Perhaps you could use this: Tequila's Field Guide to Scat . Quote Link to comment
+zoltig Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 Scatman Crothers Quote Link to comment
+wimseyguy Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 Was it in the woods?!?!? That would finally answer a very important question i have been asked many times! Is the Pope Catholic? Of course, but since he's traveling in England this weekend he's keeping it on the down low. Quote Link to comment
+WhoDis Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 I now hike (and cache) by my self! Are you sure this is a good idea? I would think it would much wiser to go with slower moving people. I don't got to out run the bear, I just got to out run you! Quote Link to comment
GOF and Bacall Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 I don't got to out run the bear, I just got to out run you! That's why I carry a lasso. Quote Link to comment
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