Windcalmer Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 O.K. I have searched around and still do not have an answer to my question. I am gearing up to go hide four or so caches that I have worked very hard on. Two of them are kinda iffy to me. I made two that are a statue with a container under them. I know there is a rule about digging. I need to know how literal that rule is. I have seen dozens of caches that are made just like the ones I have. If its soft dirt, and you have talked to the land owner is it ok to push them into the ground? I want to cache, but I also want to put a few caches in spots that I know are very kid friendly. Trouble is the only place to hide any cache in these spots is to push them into the ground. Here is a pic of the basic idea. No i am not using a rubber ducky. It was just a fast model to download in sketchup. The ground would come right to the top of the pill container. Again no I am not using a pill container...they leak too badly. But you get what I am asking...right? Quote Link to comment
+WRASTRO Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 I personally would see no problem with your concept as sort of described. Quote Link to comment
+TerraViators Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 They sound like fun to me. Quote Link to comment
+The Blorenges Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 As long as you're not using one of those dreaded "pointy objects" to dig a hole, it sounds fine to me. MrsB Quote Link to comment
+Ike 13 Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 If you have explicit permission from the land owner it's good to go. Quote Link to comment
knowschad Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 If you have explicit permission from the land owner it's good to go. Explicit permission would not be required unless it is an area where explicit permission is required by the land owner (sounds like cyclical logic, but it really isn't). Adequate permission is required, and what is adequate may, or may not be explicit where he is wanting to hide this. Quote Link to comment
+Castle Mischief Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 Get permission. Ask your reviewer. When you ask your reviewer mention the fact you have permission. In some areas the "buried" guideline drift to end of the spectrum or another- usually with reason. Go with whatever your reviewer says. Quote Link to comment
+J the Goat Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 Get permission. Ask your reviewer. When you ask your reviewer mention the fact you have permission. In some areas the "buried" guideline drift to end of the spectrum or another- usually with reason. Go with whatever your reviewer says. This. Just be sure to explain the idea thoroughly to your local reviewer. Tricking/ling to them falls outside the good idea spectrum. Quote Link to comment
+Machuco Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 I have a cache similar to this. I took a Duck hunting decoy and cut the bottom so it was like a door and put a decon up inside the duck. It has gotten good reviews and no digging involved. Quote Link to comment
+sbell111 Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 It has long been held that 'pushing' an item, such as a sprinkler head' into the ground does not violate the 'no digging' guideline. Quote Link to comment
Windcalmer Posted July 20, 2010 Author Share Posted July 20, 2010 It has long been held that 'pushing' an item, such as a sprinkler head' into the ground does not violate the 'no digging' guideline. That is what I was looking for. Thanks you! Also what is a reviewer? You have to be reviewed to post a cache? I thought I had a good grasp of what the process was? Quote Link to comment
Motorcycle_Mama Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 It has long been held that 'pushing' an item, such as a sprinkler head' into the ground does not violate the 'no digging' guideline. That is what I was looking for. Thanks you! Also what is a reviewer? You have to be reviewed to post a cache? I thought I had a good grasp of what the process was? Please be sure that you read and REALLY understand the Cache Listing Requirements/Guidelines. http://www.geocaching.com/about/guidelines.aspx This is the first paragraph. These are listing guidelines only. Before a cache is published on the website, a volunteer will review the page for inaccuracies, bad coordinates, and compliance with these guidelines. The physical cache site is not verified. As the cache owner, you are responsible for the placement and care of your cache. You might also want to read some of the Groundspeak Knowledge Books. http://support.Groundspeak.com//index.php?...apter&id=22 Quote Link to comment
+briansnat Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 It has long been held that 'pushing' an item, such as a sprinkler head' into the ground does not violate the 'no digging' guideline. That is what I was looking for. Thanks you! Also what is a reviewer? You have to be reviewed to post a cache? I thought I had a good grasp of what the process was? That is generally true. I guess it depends on what you are pushing into the ground. If you are pushing a spike type device into the ground it should be fine. If are you are going to be driving a post in the ground your reviewer will probably have a dim view of it. When in doubt check with your reviewer (see Motorcycle Mama's post above). Quote Link to comment
+sbell111 Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 It has long been held that 'pushing' an item, such as a sprinkler head' into the ground does not violate the 'no digging' guideline. That is what I was looking for. Thanks you! Also what is a reviewer? You have to be reviewed to post a cache? I thought I had a good grasp of what the process was? That is generally true. I guess it depends on what you are pushing into the ground. If you are pushing a spike type device into the ground it should be fine. If are you are going to be driving a post in the ground your reviewer will probably have a dim view of it. When in doubt check with your reviewer (see Motorcycle Mama's post above). It's pretty clear from the OP's pic that he isn't installing a fence. Quote Link to comment
Windcalmer Posted July 21, 2010 Author Share Posted July 21, 2010 You might also want to read some of the Groundspeak Knowledge Books. http://support.Groundspeak.com//index.php?...apter&id=22 Thank you for this one. Somehow I missed this page. I thought I had read every single page there was on geocaching.com. Missed this one. Thanks again! Quote Link to comment
+42at42 Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 Sometimes you may have to remove a rock or a stick from the ground that is the shape of the bottom of the cache to help the top of the cache sit flush to the ground. Quote Link to comment
+Castle Mischief Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 It's pretty clear from the OP's pic that he isn't installing a fence. Clearly, he's installing a duck. Quote Link to comment
knowschad Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 It's pretty clear from the OP's pic that he isn't installing a fence. Clearly, he's installing a duck. He never said how big the duck was, did he? Quote Link to comment
+wimseyguy Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 It's pretty clear from the OP's pic that he isn't installing a fence. Clearly, he's installing a duck. Why install one when it will float on water? Quote Link to comment
+sbell111 Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 It's pretty clear from the OP's pic that he isn't installing a fence. Clearly, he's installing a duck. He never said how big the duck was, did he? <snipped pic> The bigger the duck is, the easier it will be to push the medicine bottle-sized container into the ground. Quote Link to comment
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