+usyoopers Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 Hahahaha We ain't got no lampposts!!!! Hey, you're not all that far from Marquette! I was thinking the same thing! Quote Link to comment
GOF and Bacall Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 If I get 50 logs saying "quick find", "easy find", "fun cache", If I got 50 logs like that I'd consider the cache a dismal failure. A highly biased and occasionally inaccurate measure of whether a cache is going to fit my peculiar aesthetics is the average length of the logs. Often, folks who find the types of caches I enjoy the most are more verbose than usual, and this is reflected in their logs. On the hiding side of this coin, I like to create the types of caches that typically generate longer than average logs. I do this by building adventures, taking people outside their normal comfort zones either physically, mentally or spiritually. One fifty word log is a success. Fifty "fun cache" logs is a failure. I'm with you, give something they want to talk about. I've solved this problem by not looking for caches I dislike or wouldn't have fun finding. Can I get an "AMEN!", Brother! The longer I cache the less likely I am to look for a cache that doesn't interest me. Hey, I'm learning! Slowly. Quote Link to comment
+sbell111 Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 ... What I would consider disrespectful is placing +1 and nothing else in a log. I actually had a finder delete their original logs months later and add a new one with +1. For those who don not know what that means, it is something along the line of "the only thing this cache provided me with is more more to my cache count" and is also considered nothing more than an insult. I don't care how much I dislike a hide or another cacher, IMHO that is sinking to a level I will never go to. Rude people who are just natural curmudgeons don't bug me too much. I mostly pity them. Rude people who think they're cool with a stupid '+1' or 'DPM' don't deserve that much respect. I would delete their logs in a second, offering to let them repost if they can decide to play like adults. Of course, I realize that I would run some risk of having TPTB restore the log, but I'm willing to take the chance. Quote Link to comment
+Keith Watson Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 ... What I would consider disrespectful is placing +1 and nothing else in a log. I actually had a finder delete their original logs months later and add a new one with +1. For those who don not know what that means, it is something along the line of "the only thing this cache provided me with is more more to my cache count" and is also considered nothing more than an insult. I don't care how much I dislike a hide or another cacher, IMHO that is sinking to a level I will never go to. Rude people who are just natural curmudgeons don't bug me too much. I mostly pity them. Rude people who think they're cool with a stupid '+1' or 'DPM' don't deserve that much respect. I would delete their logs in a second, offering to let them repost if they can decide to play like adults. Of course, I realize that I would run some risk of having TPTB restore the log, but I'm willing to take the chance. I thought about deleting the log, but I thought that would re enforce to the logger that they had achieved what they set out to do. Instead, I let it sit for others to see how childish they have behaved. Quote Link to comment
+Gitchee-Gummee Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 Hahahaha We ain't got no lampposts!!!! Hey, you're not all that far from Marquette! I was thinking the same thing! Just before entering the forums today, I showed Gummee the geomap of MQT (moments ago). Yes, we are clearing our schedule for a day or two. Need to do it before the 2' of "sunshine" shows up. We promise to do polite but pitifully honest logs. Quote Link to comment
+Vater_Araignee Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 Reading this thread shamed me into going back and editing one of my old logs. OK, the CO described a tick-infested swamp as an "enchanted forest." I still didn't need to be such a d*** about it. Ah subjectivity... I may have held that CO's sentiments, some love the desert some loath it, some like snow same hate it. I love wetlands, what I might call a lovely place to wander (bogs), others will call a death trap. Quote Link to comment
+Gitchee-Gummee Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 (edited) Reading this thread shamed me into going back and editing one of my old logs. OK, the CO described a tick-infested swamp as an "enchanted forest." I still didn't need to be such a d*** about it. Ah subjectivity... I may have held that CO's sentiments, some love the desert some loath it, some like snow same hate it. I love wetlands, what I might call a lovely place to wander (bogs), others will call a death trap. *Highlight* -- Is that like a cedar swamp (for us "cedar savages")? Or is it a cranberry bog? (Which BTW are going ripe, now) Edit: Sorry, we are not placing caches in the cranberry bogs. Kinda like the good fishing hole, ya know. Edited October 20, 2009 by Gitchee-Gummee Quote Link to comment
+Kit Fox Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 The longer I cache the less likely I am to look for a cache that doesn't interest me. Hey, I'm learning! Slowly. I'm not sure of you have read this thread but, it may be of interest to you. Recipe for fun Share your techniques for avoiding caches you dislike. Quote Link to comment
GOF and Bacall Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 The longer I cache the less likely I am to look for a cache that doesn't interest me. Hey, I'm learning! Slowly. I'm not sure of you have read this thread but, it may be of interest to you. Recipe for fun Share your techniques for avoiding caches you dislike. I have seen that thread, but not in a while. I'll have to give it another look. thanks for pointing it out. Quote Link to comment
+okie-wan Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 When I was a young man many years ago, I learned that intelligent criticism was always followed by a suggestion. Why should anyone be disrespectful? Sure, in any group of people, there will always be that 10%. This is, after all, a game. Quote Link to comment
+sbell111 Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 ... What I would consider disrespectful is placing +1 and nothing else in a log. I actually had a finder delete their original logs months later and add a new one with +1. For those who don not know what that means, it is something along the line of "the only thing this cache provided me with is more more to my cache count" and is also considered nothing more than an insult. I don't care how much I dislike a hide or another cacher, IMHO that is sinking to a level I will never go to. Rude people who are just natural curmudgeons don't bug me too much. I mostly pity them. Rude people who think they're cool with a stupid '+1' or 'DPM' don't deserve that much respect. I would delete their logs in a second, offering to let them repost if they can decide to play like adults. Of course, I realize that I would run some risk of having TPTB restore the log, but I'm willing to take the chance. I thought about deleting the log, but I thought that would re enforce to the logger that they had achieved what they set out to do. Instead, I let it sit for others to see how childish they have behaved. I envy your restraint. Quote Link to comment
+Vater_Araignee Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 Reading this thread shamed me into going back and editing one of my old logs. OK, the CO described a tick-infested swamp as an "enchanted forest." I still didn't need to be such a d*** about it. Ah subjectivity... I may have held that CO's sentiments, some love the desert some loath it, some like snow same hate it. I love wetlands, what I might call a lovely place to wander (bogs), others will call a death trap. *Highlight* -- Is that like a cedar swamp (for us "cedar savages")? Or is it a cranberry bog? (Which BTW are going ripe, now) Edit: Sorry, we are not placing caches in the cranberry bogs. Kinda like the good fishing hole, ya know. Got me! I was to ambiguous. Sphagnum peat bogs. Particularly the relatively young ones where one runs a risk of falling through and being unable to resurface. I'll add I wont place a cache on a Sphagnum peat bog. The bogs I know best all contain plants I wouldn't want to see poached, particularly Sarracenia purpurea subsp. purpurea (purple pitcher plant) & the even more rare Sarracenia purpurea subsp. purpurea f. heterophylla (anthocyanin-free mutant making it a solid bright green). You guys have spectacular stands of purpurea subsp. purpurea up there.*envy* UP is also the only place I have ever seen Pinguicula vulgaris (common butterwort) in the wild. Heading down to Waterloo Rec to gather my annual cranberry supply next weekend. woot woot Quote Link to comment
+bittsen Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 Rude people who are just natural curmudgeons don't bug me too much. I mostly pity them. Rude people who think they're cool with a stupid '+1' or 'DPM' don't deserve that much respect. I would delete their logs in a second, offering to let them repost if they can decide to play like adults. Of course, I realize that I would run some risk of having TPTB restore the log, but I'm willing to take the chance. So what you are saying is you have ALRs and that the rules don't apply to you unless they are enforced? Your ALR, of course, is that the cacher must post a log that meets your specific criteria for length and politeness. Quote Link to comment
+Renegade Knight Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 ...Rude people who are just natural curmudgeons don't bug me too much. I mostly pity them. Rude people who think they're cool with a stupid '+1' or 'DPM' don't deserve that much respect.... Agreed. Every now and then I've found that some rude people are not so much rude by intent but by their experssive nature. It's hard to describe but some folks sound like crap (for lack of a better word) but would give you the shirt off their back and be happy about it (even though they would bitch the entire time). There is an art or maybe a skill to seeing through the curmudgeon layer to the gentle soul. And then some are that rude and evil to the core. You are supposed to treat them nice just the same. That's hard. Quote Link to comment
+Renegade Knight Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 ...I thought about deleting the log, but I thought that would re enforce to the logger that they had achieved what they set out to do. Instead, I let it sit for others to see how childish they have behaved. I've always liked seeing you in the forums. Now I know one more reason why. Quote Link to comment
+sbell111 Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 Rude people who are just natural curmudgeons don't bug me too much. I mostly pity them. Rude people who think they're cool with a stupid '+1' or 'DPM' don't deserve that much respect. I would delete their logs in a second, offering to let them repost if they can decide to play like adults. Of course, I realize that I would run some risk of having TPTB restore the log, but I'm willing to take the chance.So what you are saying is you have ALRs and that the rules don't apply to you unless they are enforced? Your ALR, of course, is that the cacher must post a log that meets your specific criteria for length and politeness. Each of us are just a big sack full of contradictions. At least I recognize mine. BTW, I have no 'length' requirement. As I explained in the post that you quoted, I don't really have a 'politeness' requirement, either. I have a jerkiness requirement, I suppose. So far, I haven't had to put this requirement into practice, but I think that I would. Quote Link to comment
+maggi101 Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 For those who don not know what that means, it is something along the line of "the only thing this cache provided me with is more more to my cache count" and is also considered nothing more than an insult. I don't care how much I dislike a hide or another cacher, IMHO that is sinking to a level I will never go to. Oh sh... I just had to go back and edit a post I made a little while ago that included a +1, along with a rather complimentary write up. Just goes to show you, a compliment in one culture is another cultures insult. Quote Link to comment
+BashHound Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 I think anything that gets all of our butts off of the couch is a good cache. Quote Link to comment
knowschad Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 I think anything that gets all of our butts off of the couch is a good cache. Nice job of reviving the dead for no apparent reason. Quote Link to comment
+Keith Watson Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 For those who don not know what that means, it is something along the line of "the only thing this cache provided me with is more more to my cache count" and is also considered nothing more than an insult. I don't care how much I dislike a hide or another cacher, IMHO that is sinking to a level I will never go to. Oh sh... I just had to go back and edit a post I made a little while ago that included a +1, along with a rather complimentary write up. Just goes to show you, a compliment in one culture is another cultures insult. Very strange. I am not sure this has happened, but I don't use the phrase IMHO. I wonder how that happened to get into my original post? Quote Link to comment
+WRASTRO Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 For those who don not know what that means, it is something along the line of "the only thing this cache provided me with is more more to my cache count" and is also considered nothing more than an insult. I don't care how much I dislike a hide or another cacher, IMHO that is sinking to a level I will never go to. Oh sh... I just had to go back and edit a post I made a little while ago that included a +1, along with a rather complimentary write up. Just goes to show you, a compliment in one culture is another cultures insult. Very strange. I am not sure this has happened, but I don't use the phrase IMHO. I wonder how that happened to get into my original post? Looks like the post was unedited so the most likely thing is that you typed it in on your keyboard. If you didn't type it then you have been randomly hacked or your dog/cat posted for you. Quote Link to comment
+lavender5215 Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 I think the person just lacks a little tact in phrasing his logs. Honesty is great, how else are we going to know that our cache is in a thorn pile and might need relocation. I think this person is a little harsh in his criticism, not to mention he may not completely understand that its not always that easy being a cache owner because he has never placed one! Quote Link to comment
+The Leprechauns Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Very strange. I am not sure this has happened, but I don't use the phrase IMHO. I wonder how that happened to get into my original post? Looks like the post was unedited so the most likely thing is that you typed it in on your keyboard. If you didn't type it then you have been randomly hacked or your dog/cat posted for you. This happens a lot in my house. And I don't think you ought to worry about it. (In My Hamster's Opinion.) Quote Link to comment
+WRASTRO Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Very strange. I am not sure this has happened, but I don't use the phrase IMHO. I wonder how that happened to get into my original post? Looks like the post was unedited so the most likely thing is that you typed it in on your keyboard. If you didn't type it then you have been randomly hacked or your dog/cat posted for you. This happens a lot in my house. And I don't think you ought to worry about it. (In My Hamster's Opinion.) I certainly am not worried about it. My cats both have Facebook accounts so who am I to comment on hamsters or other critters posting stuff? I do know I have typed stuff a few times that I wish I could blame on my cats. Quote Link to comment
+Keith Watson Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Very strange. I am not sure this has happened, but I don't use the phrase IMHO. I wonder how that happened to get into my original post? Looks like the post was unedited so the most likely thing is that you typed it in on your keyboard. If you didn't type it then you have been randomly hacked or your dog/cat posted for you. This happens a lot in my house. And I don't think you ought to worry about it. (In My Hamster's Opinion.) I certainly am not worried about it. My cats both have Facebook accounts so who am I to comment on hamsters or other critters posting stuff? I do know I have typed stuff a few times that I wish I could blame on my cats. I am sure there are a few things I have type that I could have or should have phrased better. I am aure that has lead to problems in the past. I will have to have a talk with my budgie. I think he has been watching me too much while I am typing. Quote Link to comment
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