+cincol Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Average cache age, finds and Favourite points per province: For active South African caches: Years Finds Finds/year FPs/cache FPs/year Finds/FP Western Cape 3.4 63 18.4 3.1 0.91 20.3 Gauteng 2.8 61 21.5 2.1 0.74 29.0 Free State 3.2 46 14.3 1.8 0.56 25.6 North West 3.4 48 14.0 1.7 0.49 28.2 Mpumalanga 3.6 33 9.3 1.6 0.45 20.6 Northern Cape 3.8 29 7.6 1.5 0.41 19.3 Eastern Cape 2.9 30 10.4 1.5 0.52 20.0 KZN 2.7 34 12.4 1.4 0.53 24.3 Limpopo 4.4 33 7.4 0.8 0.19 41.3 South Africa 3.1 48 15.3 2.0 0.65 23.9 As usual Danie your stats are great. However, I want to throw the proverbial cat amongst the pigeons here. Favourite Points have been in the past and will be in the future a contentious issue. For these to have relevance should one not first look at the number of Premium Members vs Non-Premium Members? Only Premium Members may award FP's. Now that said, one will then need to look at the Premium vs Non-Premium finds on each cache before computing the FP ratios. Maybe I am wrong as I am not a statistician but that is what my logic is telling me. Link to comment
+Danie Viljoen Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Favourite Points have been in the past and will be in the future a contentious issue. For these to have relevance should one not first look at the number of Premium Members vs Non-Premium Members? Only Premium Members may award FP's. Now that said, one will then need to look at the Premium vs Non-Premium finds on each cache before computing the FP ratios. Maybe I am wrong as I am not a statistician but that is what my logic is telling me. I am well aware that only premium members can award FPs, but my assumption is that premium and non-premium members visit the same caches and have similar tastes for caches. What I am trying to say is that whatever the ratio of premium to non-premium members is, if one cache gets 100 logs and 20 FPs, and another cache gets 100 logs and 10 FPs, then I think it is fairly safe to assume that the ratio of premium to non-premium logs for the two caches should be comparable, and that the first cache is better liked. (This would of course not be true for premium caches.) It would be interesting to test this assumption (that premium and non-premium members have similar cache preferences), but I can't think of a way to determine the memberhip type from the available log data. If all cachers were premium members, the average South African cache (with its 48 finds) should have had 4.8 FPs. The real number is 2, so it must mean that slightly less than half of all the cachers are premium members. (Assuming they use all their FPs, and that there are not many surviving pre-FP caches with many old logs.) Does anybody know when FPs were introduced? Link to comment
+Danie Viljoen Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Cardinal caches of South Africa: Northernmost cache: GC15MHT Mapungubwe - Cinnamon Rock Bunting Southernmost cache: GC1H9WR 2 Oceans West: GC4J6P0 Gems of the West Coast East: GC4VXV0 Kosi Bay Centroid: S26 00.041 E28 06.569 Closest cache: GC1P0G1 Rustfontein Yacht Club (7.7km away) If one defines the midpoint as the center of the smallest circle containing all South African caches: Midpoint: S29 03.820 E25 52.800 Closest cache: GC3N9DH KG21/KG31 (14km away) The following points are relative to the centroid: Northeast: GC4N80H CROOKS CORNER Southeast: GC1GB58 Cape Morgan Lighthouse Southwest: GC2C19Q SS: Phyllisia Northwest: GC4JA4A Kalahari Sands Link to comment
+Danie Viljoen Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 QC (Quick Cup) Events Statistics: The QC series of events in and around Pretoria has been going since February 2010, and the 50th one was held last month! All 50 lie within a circle with radius 16km centered just west of the Rietvlei Dam. Of these 50, Leon St hosted 29, Wormgeocash 17 and Jors 6. (Two were co-hosted). A total of 134 cachers attended at least one of the events, and the top attendees were: 1. Jors attended all 50 (remarkable!) 2. Leon St 47 3. Wilduvo 44 4. B and C Inc 43 5. HeinG 42 The average attendance was 18.4, the maximum was 38 (QCXXXIV – December 2012 – Moreleta Park) and the minimum was 12 (QCXXXI – September 2012 – Southdowns) Link to comment
+Carbon Hunter Posted May 3, 2014 Author Share Posted May 3, 2014 Favourite Points have been in the past and will be in the future a contentious issue. For these to have relevance should one not first look at the number of Premium Members vs Non-Premium Members? Only Premium Members may award FP's. Now that said, one will then need to look at the Premium vs Non-Premium finds on each cache before computing the FP ratios. Maybe I am wrong as I am not a statistician but that is what my logic is telling me. I am well aware that only premium members can award FPs, but my assumption is that premium and non-premium members visit the same caches and have similar tastes for caches. What I am trying to say is that whatever the ratio of premium to non-premium members is, if one cache gets 100 logs and 20 FPs, and another cache gets 100 logs and 10 FPs, then I think it is fairly safe to assume that the ratio of premium to non-premium logs for the two caches should be comparable, and that the first cache is better liked. (This would of course not be true for premium caches.) It would be interesting to test this assumption (that premium and non-premium members have similar cache preferences), but I can't think of a way to determine the memberhip type from the available log data. If all cachers were premium members, the average South African cache (with its 48 finds) should have had 4.8 FPs. The real number is 2, so it must mean that slightly less than half of all the cachers are premium members. (Assuming they use all their FPs, and that there are not many surviving pre-FP caches with many old logs.) Does anybody know when FPs were introduced? I agree that FP are a fair indicator - but possibly not the best one. A really good cache (e.g. difficult terrain) may only get 3 odd FPs a year due to not being found so often - while a good cache close to a tourist area (e.g. Table Mountain) can gain a LOT of FPs very quickly. I see this on my Earthcaches too. My one earthcache next to the tallest building in the world in Dubai has well over 100 FPs assigned - while IMHO this is not my best EC or is it the best location I have. My perosnal favourite ECs (from a geology, landscape and beauty and the write up) have far fewer FPs (often less than 5). The "herd" mentality of awarding a good cache that already has a lot of FPs - or one that is a highlight for yourself (e.g. have finally made it on an overseas trip to the Burj Khalifa and are having an awesome holiday) also add to this. That said - I generally look at FPs in both my area and new areas visited in deciding what caches to attempt. So take them as an indicator - but they are not the bee all and end all. Use with care. Link to comment
+Danie Viljoen Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 (edited) Most Cardinal caches found: The following cachers have found the most of the 10 South African cardinal caches (listed above): 1. iPajero: 8 (including 3 owned) 2. Danie Viljoen: 4 2. TechnoNut: 4 26 cachers have found 2. Edited May 5, 2014 by Danie Viljoen Link to comment
+Danie Viljoen Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 (edited) Events Statistics: The following graph shows the number of events per year (ending 29 April) in South Africa: (All Event types included: Normal, CITO, MEGA, L&F) The total number of attended logs: The average number of attendees per event per year: Edited May 6, 2014 by Danie Viljoen Link to comment
+TechnoNut Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 (edited) Most Cardinal caches found: The following cachers have found the most of the 10 South African cardinal caches (listed above): 1. iPajero: 8 (including 3 owned) 2. Danie Viljoen: 4 2. TechnoNut: 4 26 cachers have found 2. Danie - I have five, not four Southernmost cache: GC1H9WR 2 Oceans West: GC4J6P0 Gems of the West Coast East: GC4VXV0 Kosi Bay Northeast: GC4N80H CROOKS CORNER Northwest: GC4JA4A Kalahari Sands Just being picky You are probably missing a log somewhere Edited May 6, 2014 by TechnoNut Link to comment
+Danie Viljoen Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 Event attendance as percentage of all finds: For all South African events of all types. Link to comment
+Danie Viljoen Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 (edited) Find percentage for various cache types, over the years: For South African caches, excluding Traditional caches (which would be off the scale). A few observations: - It looks as if Multi caches are losing their attraction (have been in serious decline since 2006). - Virtual cache finds are declining, but that is to be expected. - EarthCache finds (as a percentage of the total) is not doing too well either. Edited May 6, 2014 by Danie Viljoen Link to comment
+Danie Viljoen Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 Average yearly finds per cache type: For South African caches for the year 30 April 2013 to 29 April 2014: Observations: - I can understand why Virtual caches are so popular - they are scarce, easy and in interesting places. - It appears as if the moment one has to work for a cache, then its popularity drops! (CITO, EarthCache, Mystery) - Once again one can see that Multi-caches are very unpopular at the moment. (Less than half the finds of Traditional caches). - Not sure why Wherigo is so unpopular - most of them are actually fun and interesting to do. Maybe because not everybody has the hardware and know-how to do them? Link to comment
+Danie Viljoen Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 Most active South African caches found: There are currently 10282 active caches in South Africa. The following cachers have found the most of these: 1. iPajero: 8013 (77.9%) 2. Danie Viljoen: 2987 (29.1%) 3. rodnjoan: 2984 (29.0%) 4. Louise_Gerhard: 2924 (28.4%) 5. TechnoNut: 2848 (27.7%) 6. Leon St: 2804 (27.3%) 7. Antron: 2662 (25.9%) 8. cownchicken: 2641 (25.7%) 9. The Huskies: 2632 (25.6%) 10. Wormgeocash: 2418 (23.5%) Link to comment
+Danie Viljoen Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 Most active Gauteng caches found: There are currently 2837 active caches in Gauteng. The following cachers have found the most of these: 1. iPajero: 2450 (86.4%) 2. rodnjoan: 2263 (79.8%) 3. Leon St: 2103 (74.1%) 4. Danie Viljoen: 1897 (66.9%) 5. Wormgeocash: 1893 (66.7%) 6. Louise_Gerhard: 1816 (64.0%) 7. B and C Inc: 1659 (58.5%) 8. HeinG: 1622 (57.2%) 9. pannie&medusae: 1620 (57.1%) 10. Happy Hunters SA: 1524 (53.7%) Link to comment
+Danie Viljoen Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 Most active Western Cape caches found: There are currently 2155 active caches in the Western Cape. The following cachers have found the most of these: 1. cownchicken: 1939 (90.0%) 2. terunkie: 1739 (80.7%) 3. The Huskies: 1685 (78.2%) 4. battlerat and pussycat: 1531 (71.0%) 5. iPajero: 1462 (67.8%) 6. PieterM: 1456 (67.6%) 7. Henzz: 1148 (53.3%) 8. AndyT1: 1125 (52.2%) 9. SKATTIE@1: 1102 (51.1%) 10. paddawan: 1087 (50.4%) Link to comment
+Danie Viljoen Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 (edited) Most active Natal caches found: There are currently 1942 active caches in KZN. The following cachers have found the most of these: 1. iPajero: 1507 (77.6%) 2. TechnoNut: 1487 (76.6%) 3. hovelj: 937 (48.2%) 4. Noddy: 911 (46.9%) 5. LegoMikey: 896 (46.1%) 6. Wh00: 892 (45.9%) 7. mlornelh: 830 (42.7%) 8. ScottScott: 788 (40.6%) 9. Kwenda Tafuta: 745 (38.4%) 10. ferdie.estelle: 741 (38.2%) (To be fair I should have compensated for owned caches - if one takes into account TechnoNut's many local owned caches he should be no.1 in KZN.) Edited May 12, 2014 by Danie Viljoen Link to comment
+Danie Viljoen Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 Most active Eastern Cape caches found: There are currently 1174 active caches in the Eastern Cape. The following cachers have found the most of these: 1. iPajero: 969 (82.5%) 2. Mixs: 773 (65.8%) 3. NaviMate: 717 (61.1%) 4. Spesbona: 678 (57.8%) 5. Wikkelgat: 618 (52.6%) 6. Chris'nDenise: 565 (48.1%) 7. iNokia: 548 (46.7%) 8. simplr: 528 (45.0%) 9. Kingrobert: 433 (36.9%) 10. grannynasty: 433 (36.9%) Link to comment
+Danie Viljoen Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 (edited) Most active Mpumalanga caches found: There are currently 728 active caches in Mpumalanga. The following cachers have found the most of these: 1. iPajero: 548 (75.3%) 2. Fish Eagle: 489 (67.2%) 3. surreptitious007: 398 (54.7%) 4. Bouts777: 345 (47.4%) 5. chimpguy: 329 (45.2%) 6. mvubu147: 301 (41.3%) 7. Louise_Gerhard: 288 (39.6%) 8. Sleaves: 267 (36.7%) 9. Tricky Vicky & Mickey: 247 (33.9%) 10. Danie Viljoen: 244 (33.5%) (If one takes into account Fish Eagle's many owned caches in Mpumalanga, he should in fact be no.1 in this province.) Edited May 12, 2014 by Danie Viljoen Link to comment
+Danie Viljoen Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 Most active Free State caches found: There are currently 636 active caches in the Free State. The following cachers have found the most of these: 1. iPajero: 508 (79.9%) 2. Antron: 397 (62.4%) 3. Witelse: 386 (60.7%) 4. Scmeirei: 362 (56.9%) 5. Tricky Vicky & Mickey: 330 (51.9%) 6. Louise_Gerhard: 313 (49.2%) 7. Orgulas: 311 (48.9%) 8. Danie Viljoen: 286 (45.0%) 9. TechnoNut: 279 (43.9%) 10. Land Rover Team: 275 (43.2%) Link to comment
+Danie Viljoen Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 Most active North West caches found: There are currently 341 active caches in North West. The following cachers have found the most of these: 1. iPajero: 247 (72.4%) 2. Thrips: 225 (66.0%) 3. Danie Viljoen: 165 (48.4%) 4. dolos: 151 (44.3%) 5. Louise_Gerhard: 149 (43.7%) 6. Team Tip Top: 148 (43.4%) 7. Leon St: 146 (42.8%) 8. Skola & Lingiwe: 119 (34.9%) 9. Jors: 118 (34.6%) 10. Cherokee.za: 118 (34.6%) Link to comment
+Danie Viljoen Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 Most active Limpopo caches found: There are currently 313 active caches in Limpopo. The following cachers have found the most of these: 1. iPajero: 229 (73.2%) 2. Farm girls and Dad: 112 (35.8%) 3. henslin: 109 (34.8%) 4. Danie Viljoen: 108 (34.5%) 5. Mapula: 106 (33.9%) 6. Zandyl: 98 (31.3%) 7. Louise_Gerhard: 90 (28.8%) 8. rodnjoan: 89 (28.4%) 9. Werrie & Lize: 89 (28.4%) 10. miking: 88 (28.1%) Link to comment
+Danie Viljoen Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 Most active Northern Cape caches found: There are currently 156 active caches in the Northern Cape. The following cachers have found the most of these: 1. iPajero: 93 (59.6%) 2. cownchicken: 90 (57.7%) 3. Tricky Vicky & Mickey: 66 (42.3%) 4. PORKY2: 55 (35.3%) 5. battlerat and pussycat: 52 (33.3%) 6. Danie Viljoen: 51 (32.7%) 6. Hesamati: 51 (32.7%) 8. The Huskies: 49 (31.4%) 9. johanchristel: 48 (30.8%) 10. Hansie & Grietjie: 47 (30.1%) Link to comment
+TechnoNut Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 Most active South African caches found: There are currently 10282 active caches in South Africa. The following cachers have found the most of these: (and the rest of the provinces) Thanks Danie - very interesting stuff .... Please can you do it again - but this time make it ALL caches (i.e. including archived caches). This will give a better picture of whoi has found the most in SA and each province. (If not too much PT) Thanks Link to comment
+Danie Viljoen Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 Most caches found in Cape Town: There are 1739 caches in Cape Town, of which 645 are archived. The following cachers have found the most of them: Finds Own % Found 1. cownchicken 1603 13 92.9% 2. The Huskies 1387 23 80.8% 3. battlerat and pussycat 1346 16 78.1% 4. terunkie 1353 5 78.0% 5. Henzz 1138 30 66.6% 6. paddawan 1036 99 63.2% 7. PieterM 994 94 60.4% 8. iPajero 1007 1 57.9% 9. SKATTIE@1 982 25 57.3% 10. Zambesiboy 935 44 55.2% Link to comment
+Danie Viljoen Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 (edited) Most caches found in Pretoria: There are 1660 caches in Pretoria, of which 620 are archived. The following cachers have found the most of them: Finds Own % Found 1. rodnjoan 1494 2 90.1% 2. Leon St 1311 127 85.5% 3. Wormgeocash 1347 75 85.0% 4. Jors 1334 12 80.9% 5. Danie Viljoen 1219 41 75.3% 6. iPajero 1227 0 73.9% 7. cache-fan 1152 62 72.1% 8. B and C Inc 1177 27 72.1% 9. HeinG 1035 116 67.0% 10. pannie&medusae 1032 63 64.6% Edited May 12, 2014 by Danie Viljoen Link to comment
+Danie Viljoen Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 Most caches found in Johannesburg: There are 1153 caches in Johannesburg, of which 522 are archived. The following cachers have found the most of them: Finds Own % Found 1. KeithWood 740 9 64.7% 2. iPajero 732 1 63.5% 3. rodnjoan 682 1 59.2% 4. Happy Hunters SA 614 45 55.4% 5. BruceTP 582 21 51.4% 6. Antron 569 0 49.3% 7. Leon St 557 2 48.4% 8. cache-fan 552 7 48.2% 9. warthog 535 12 46.9% 10. Wazat 523 7 45.6% Link to comment
+Danie Viljoen Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 Most caches found in Durban: There are 1399 caches in Ethekwini, of which 502 are archived. The following cachers have found the most of them: Finds Own % Found 1. TechnoNut 1075 199 89.6% 2. iPajero 1027 1 73.5% 3. Noddy 909 70 68.4% 4. hovelj 882 55 65.6% 5. LegoMikey 778 65 58.3% 6. Wh00 782 36 57.4% 7. ScottScott 727 15 52.5% 8. Kwenda Tafuta 704 44 52.0% 9. ferdie.estelle 676 48 50.0% 10. DonJolley 628 14 45.3% Link to comment
+Danie Viljoen Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Most caches found in South Africa (including archived caches): There are currently 14805 caches in South Africa, of which 5032 have been archived. The following cachers have found the most: Cacher Finds Own % Found 1. iPajero: 10049 170 68.7% 2. rodnjoan: 3889 7 26.3% 3. Louise_Gerhard: 3784 105 25.7% 4. cownchicken: 3786 42 25.6% 5. Danie Viljoen: 3755 59 25.5% 6. Tricky Vicky & Mickey: 3611 83 24.5% 7. Leon St: 3544 153 24.2% 8. TechnoNut: 3459 223 23.7% 9. Antron: 3482 76 23.6% 10. The Huskies: 3445 45 23.3% And to show just how far ahead of the pack iPajero is: Link to comment
+Danie Viljoen Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Number of new caches: During the year 1 May 2013 to 30 April 2014, 2811 new caches have been published in South Africa; an average of 7.7 per day. For the previous year the number was 2030, for an average of 5.6 per day. The number of new caches per month, for the past year: Link to comment
+battlerat and pussycat Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Number of new caches: During the year 1 May 2013 to 30 April 2014, 2811 new caches have been published in South Africa; an average of 7.7 per day. For the previous year the number was 2030, for an average of 5.6 per day. The number of new caches per month, for the past year: Hi Danie, can you do the breakdown for the Western Cape province? Link to comment
+TechnoNut Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Number of new caches: During the year 1 May 2013 to 30 April 2014, 2811 new caches have been published in South Africa; an average of 7.7 per day. For the previous year the number was 2030, for an average of 5.6 per day. Sadly, I think the attrition rate has also gone up in that a large number of these new (physical) caches have been archived already. (Of course there are many more events taking place these days and we know that these will be archived.) Danie - is it possible to pull any stats on the longevity of physical cache types? I am thinking of something on the lines of: For archived physical cache types ..... Average / Range in Days between "Publish" and "Archive" for caches published in "Calendar Year". I know that the earlier caches did not have a "Publish" Log, so perhaps just for the calendar years since we started seeing "Publish" logs As always your stats are interesting - and that leads to more questions Link to comment
+Danie Viljoen Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Hi Danie, can you do the breakdown for the Western Cape province? Number of new caches in the Western Cape: During the year 1 May 2013 to 30 April 2014, 550 new caches have been published in the Western Cape; an average of 1.5 per day. This is 32% more than for the previous year where the number was 417. The number of new caches per month, for the past year: Link to comment
+battlerat and pussycat Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Hi Danie, can you do the breakdown for the Western Cape province? Number of new caches in the Western Cape: During the year 1 May 2013 to 30 April 2014, 550 new caches have been published in the Western Cape; an average of 1.5 per day. This is 32% more than for the previous year where the number was 417. The number of new caches per month, for the past year: Thanks Danie. I asked the question since it it felt to me like over the last few months there has been a gradual decline in the number of new caches published in the 80km radius around Cape Town. For the whole of SA, from your graph, it appears as if there has been a gradual decline in the number of caches published since July/August last year. This seems to be the case in the Western Cape too, except for December/January - we had some very active hiders. Very interesting. Can it be said that it's only because of the "find a cache a day" challenge August last year that also more caches were published, thereby pushing up the daily average? Is it meaningful to plot the number of active geocachers over the number of new hides? Link to comment
+Danie Viljoen Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 is it possible to pull any stats on the longevity of physical cache types? I am thinking of something on the lines of: For archived physical cache types ..... Average / Range in Days between "Publish" and "Archive" for caches published in "Calendar Year". To generate the following graph, I looked at all archived South African caches, and excluded all the event types. To calculate the age I took the difference between the placed date and the last found date. (I feel the last found date is better than the archived date). The vertical axis represents the average age of the archived caches in years, and the horizontal axis is the published date. I must warn that this may be a very misleading graph. It does NOT necessarily imply that recently published caches don't last as long as the older ones. The problem here is that the averaging for recently published caches is over a shorter period than for the older caches. To put it differently - archived caches that have been published in 2013 can at most be 1 year old, while caches published in 2004 could have lasted anything up to 10 years. We are not comparing apples with apples here! I am not sure how to fix this. Maybe it would be better to ask: "What percentage of caches published in a calendar year is archived within a year?" I'll think about this one. Link to comment
+Danie Viljoen Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 it felt to me like over the last few months there has been a gradual decline in the number of new caches published in the 80km radius around Cape Town. For the whole of SA, from your graph, it appears as if there has been a gradual decline in the number of caches published since July/August last year. This seems to be the case in the Western Cape too, except for December/January - we had some very active hiders. Very interesting. Can it be said that it's only because of the "find a cache a day" challenge August last year that also more caches were published, thereby pushing up the daily average? Is it meaningful to plot the number of active geocachers over the number of new hides? I share your feeling that we appear to be in a slump, but if you look back you'll see that new caches are very seasonal. If one compares the past year with the previous one it does not look so bad. Yes, there has always been a strong correlation between the number of cachers and the number of new hides. I shall generate a graph, but not today. Link to comment
+TechnoNut Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 is it possible to pull any stats on the longevity of physical cache types? I am thinking of something on the lines of: For archived physical cache types ..... Average / Range in Days between "Publish" and "Archive" for caches published in "Calendar Year". I must warn that this may be a very misleading graph. It does NOT necessarily imply that recently published caches don't last as long as the older ones. The problem here is that the averaging for recently published caches is over a shorter period than for the older caches. To put it differently - archived caches that have been published in 2013 can at most be 1 year old, while caches published in 2004 could have lasted anything up to 10 years. We are not comparing apples with apples here! I am not sure how to fix this. Maybe it would be better to ask: "What percentage of caches published in a calendar year is archived within a year?" I'll think about this one. Thanks Danie. I take your point about the chart being misleading. We do need to look at this in a different way. So - please consider this ... Of all the caches placed in <year>, how many (%) are still active (available / disabled)? And, of those archived, how many (%) lasted <1 year?, 1 - 2 years?, longer than 2 years? Obviously 2013 and 2014 can't answer all the questions. Link to comment
+Danie Viljoen Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Of all the caches placed in <year>, how many (%) are still active (available / disabled)? And, of those archived, how many (%) lasted <1 year?, 1 - 2 years?, longer than 2 years? The first suggestion will lead to a similar situation as my last graph. Caches published in 2004 have had 10 years to disappear, while recent caches have had less time. Your second suggestion is similar to mine - I'll see what I can do. Link to comment
+TechnoNut Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Of all the caches placed in <year>, how many (%) are still active (available / disabled)? And, of those archived, how many (%) lasted <1 year?, 1 - 2 years?, longer than 2 years? The first suggestion will lead to a similar situation as my last graph. Caches published in 2004 have had 10 years to disappear, while recent caches have had less time. Your second suggestion is similar to mine - I'll see what I can do. Great - thanks Danie. Now - just a comment - it won't (necessarily) lead to any work for you I wonder what the "critical" age for a cache is? In other words, once a cache gets to be older than a certain period, the chances of it being muggled drop considerably. If it lasts (say) two years, then it is obviously in a good hide and the chances of a muggle spotting it and removing it fade away. On the other hand, badly placed caches get muggled quickly. I know from personal experience that my caches in nature reserves hardly ever go missing, while I am often doing maintenance on my urban cache 'n dash placements. And that seems to be of general validity in KZN (and probably SA). Perhaps the guys who have caches in National Parks / Nature Reserves can comment? Link to comment
+Danie Viljoen Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 I wonder what the "critical" age for a cache is? In other words, once a cache gets to be older than a certain period, the chances of it being muggled drop considerably. If it lasts (say) two years, then it is obviously in a good hide and the chances of a muggle spotting it and removing it fade away. On the other hand, badly placed caches get muggled quickly. If I remember correctly I did a graph of archive probability vs. age quite some time ago. I don't have time to look for it now, but if you are interested you can search for it earlier in this topic. Given enough time, different mechanisms come into play of course. Muggling is probably the biggest killer of caches, but veld fires, flooding and development cause caches to be archived as well.(Just thinking back on my own archived caches.) Link to comment
+Danie Viljoen Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 (edited) Early archiving of caches over the years: The following graph really surprised me - it is contrary to what most people believe. It shows the percentage of caches that were archived within one year from publishing: (I ignored all events.) What this means is that in spite of the fact that most of the prime hiding spots were still available in the early years, the mortality rate of those early caches was three times that of recent caches. One case where the good old days were not so good after all! Edited May 14, 2014 by Danie Viljoen Link to comment
+TechnoNut Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 Early archiving of caches over the years: The following graph really surprised me - it is contrary to what most people believe. It shows the percentage of caches that were archived within one year from publishing: What this means is that in spite of the fact that most of the prime hiding spots were still available in the early years, the mortality rate of those early caches was three times that of recent caches. One case where the good old days were not so good after all! Now that really is surprising .... and completely opposite to what I thought. When I get a chance (Mega website going live hopefully today), I will trawl through the logs of those early caches and see what I can find. Link to comment
+Danie Viljoen Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 First find vs. first hide: I am currently comparing cachers' first find dates with the dates of their first hides. This is complicated by the fact that early caches don't have publish dates, and by new cachers adopting old caches. Nevertheless, I discovered a surprising thing - a significant number of cachers (in the order of 8%) hid their first cache before finding a single cache! The record is held by ploegsmous, who placed his first cache in September 2002 and found his first cache in October 2008 - more than 6 years later! The cacher with the biggest gap between finding his first cache and placing his first cache is Stasher: First find: 26 Oct 2003, first hide: 23 Mar 2013, 9.4 years later! Link to comment
+Danie Viljoen Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 (edited) Interval between first find and first hide: I managed to match up the first find and hide dates of 1616 South African cachers. The data is not perfect - there are many strange dates in the master database, like finds in 1940, but after filtering out the obvious, I got the following frequency distribution: The horizontal axis represents the time difference in days (how many days after the first find the first hide happened). The median is 74 days. Edited May 14, 2014 by Danie Viljoen Link to comment
+Danie Viljoen Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 Is it meaningful to plot the number of active geocachers over the number of new hides? Year Cachers New caches 2001 38 72 2002 82 84 2003 165 94 2004 224 93 2005 410 360 2006 671 1070 2007 997 1104 2008 1510 1207 2009 2026 1191 2010 2559 1603 2011 3480 2423 2012 4550 1850 2013 5878 2913 The following graph shows the total number of cachers who have found at least one cache in South Africa, as well as the number of new caches, for each year: There is clearly a strong correlation between the number of cachers active during a period and the number of new caches. Link to comment
+battlerat and pussycat Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 Is it meaningful to plot the number of active geocachers over the number of new hides? Year Cachers New caches 2001 38 72 2002 82 84 2003 165 94 2004 224 93 2005 410 360 2006 671 1070 2007 997 1104 2008 1510 1207 2009 2026 1191 2010 2559 1603 2011 3480 2423 2012 4550 1850 2013 5878 2913 The following graph shows the total number of cachers who have found at least one cache in South Africa, as well as the number of new caches, for each year: There is clearly a strong correlation between the number of cachers active during a period and the number of new caches. My interpretation of the data is that although the number of new cachers joining closely follows an exponential trend, the number of new caches published doesn't quite follow the same trend. Since there must be some average number of published hides/cacher ratio, I would expect the new hides published ratio to follow the same exponential curve closer than it actually does. I agree that geocaching is some seasonal activity, affected by weather, holidays etc., but as I said before, it does feel like we have less caches published, in the Cape Town area in any case... I suppose the Cape Town area is slowly being saturated, or at least the worthy spots have caches, which could explain or confirm my gut feel that we have less caches that are published. I've also wondered what effect the increase in petrol price the last few months have had on geocaching, clearly not that much, if I look at your stats. Or has it? Link to comment
+Danie Viljoen Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 I've also wondered what effect the increase in petrol price the last few months have had on geocaching, clearly not that much, if I look at your stats. Or has it? If one plots the total yearly number of finds on a logarithmic scale (I'll publish it later), the graph is very close to a straight line, especially since 2006. This means the exponential growth is not noticeably affected by the petrol price. Maybe the effect is to force some cachers to cache more closer to home? Link to comment
+Danie Viljoen Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Total number of find logs for South Africa: (With the best exponential fit in white) And on a logarithmic scale: Yes, we are currently slightly below exponential growth, but this has happened before, as can be seen from the graph. Link to comment
+Danie Viljoen Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 (edited) Archive probability: This graph may need some explaining: It does not directly show cache survival probability; I'll get to that later. What it does show is the probability that a cache will be archived during any given month interval. To give an example: The probability that a South African (non-event) cache will be archived during its 7th month after publication is about 1% (the seventh bar on the graph). It shows three interesting things: 1. There is quite high infant mortality. (2.6% of all South African caches are archived within the first month alone). 2. There is no specific "critical age", to use TechnoNut's term, when one can say a cache is now safe - the curve stays smooth and flattens out gradually. The best one can say is that most of the archiving happens in the first few months. (I'll publish another graph that will show this clearer.) 3. This is no classical bathtub curve, where the failure rate starts increasing again because of old age. Caches appear to be like soldiers in the saying: Old soldiers don't die, young ones do! Edited May 15, 2014 by Danie Viljoen Link to comment
+Danie Viljoen Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Cumulative archive probability: Once again, this is not really related to cache survival probability, since here I only looked at caches that had been archived. What it shows is that 50% of all the archived South African (non-event) caches had been archived before 13 months after publication, 80% at 33 months and 90% at 4 years. Link to comment
+Danie Viljoen Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 (edited) Cache survival probability: Based on all South African non-event caches. The attrition rate (during the first four years) is about 8.5% per year. See the EarthCache forum (posting of 15 May 2014) to see how much differently EarthCaches behave. Edited May 16, 2014 by Danie Viljoen Link to comment
+Danie Viljoen Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 Number of active mystery caches in South Africa, versus Difficulty: There are surprisingly few D=1 mystery caches in South Africa. Average number of finds vs. Difficulty: For active South African mystery caches. Nothing surprising here - the finds come down linearly as the Difficulty goes up. Link to comment
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