+Tavisman Posted February 16, 2009 Posted February 16, 2009 I'm not sure whether this post should be in the 'Benchmark Hunting' forum, but I will try it here anyway. It is a question: I know that in the UK we call benchmarks trig-points. There is a trig-point in a field not far from where I live. There used to be a footpath with a stile either end. Recently the landowner put up barbed wire around the field and blocked one stile at one end with panks of wood and newly planted young trees. The landowner then put up 'Get off my land' style signs everywhere that would be the envy of a teenager's bedroom. This caused a stir with the locals. It turns out the unused path on one side of the field was a little used registered footpath, but the main path used by walkers (but mainly dog walkers) was just a private path (not registered with the local authority). For more information see this newspaper article. OK, to my question. The actions of the landowner means there is no access to the trig-point in the middle of the field. Can a landowner block off access to a trig-point? Note, I tried to ask this question on the Ramblers forum, but I could register an account with the forum. Quote
+JeremyR Posted February 16, 2009 Posted February 16, 2009 Yes, if there's no public footpath (or bridleway, etc) and the trigpoint is on land not open to the public then you'd need the landowner's cooperation. If they won't give it then you're out of luck. Quote
+Bear and Ragged Posted February 16, 2009 Posted February 16, 2009 Council/court issue. It may now be a public right of way, if it's been used for a long time as one... However, it's down to the Council and legal people to decide. Best not to upset landowner in the mean-time. There is a Trigpointing section in the GAGB forums for discussions... HERE It's a bit quite, but there are people around! Quote
+Wintonian Posted February 17, 2009 Posted February 17, 2009 For anyone who is intrested htere is a good guide to rights of way law on the ramblers site. There is also a good guide from Natural England. But essentaly from what I know (not much) then if the path is not on the 'definitive map' held by the local athority then there unlikly to be a right of way although there are exeptions, as apparently not all RoW are on the maps. After 2010 I think it is when a new law comes in all RoW not on the 'Difinitive Map's' will cease to be RoW. Quote
lakeuk Posted February 17, 2009 Posted February 17, 2009 OK, to my question. The actions of the landowner means there is no access to the trig-point in the middle of the field. Can a landowner block off access to a trig-point? Yes he's within his rights where there is no public right of way Quote
Neath Worthies Posted February 17, 2009 Posted February 17, 2009 I can't remember exactly where it was, but I've seen a trig point in someone's back garden. There was certainly no public right of way there! Quote
+Gushoneybun Posted February 17, 2009 Posted February 17, 2009 There is nothing to stop the OP contacting the land owner and seeking permission to visit the trig point, although it might be worth letting the dust settle first after the path closure. The Neath Worthies mentioned one in a back garden there is certainly one on the edge of Nottingham like this, I have also come across one in Derby in someone's from garden and I bet there are many more. Quote
+Teuchters Posted February 17, 2009 Posted February 17, 2009 I can't remember exactly where it was, but I've seen a trig point in someone's back garden. There was certainly no public right of way there! Yes, there's one at Troves near Forres. I never did manage to bag this one for Ye Ole Survey Monuments! Quote
Edgemaster Posted February 17, 2009 Posted February 17, 2009 I can't remember exactly where it was, but I've seen a trig point in someone's back garden. There was certainly no public right of way there! There's another in Kingston, but it is visible across the wire fence from the garage space at the back. Quote
Chudley Cannons Posted February 17, 2009 Posted February 17, 2009 I can't remember exactly where it was, but I've seen a trig point in someone's back garden. There was certainly no public right of way there! There is one in a guy's back garden in Batley (Yorks). If you knock on his door and ask, he is quite happy for you to go and take a look. Quote
+Pharisee Posted February 17, 2009 Posted February 17, 2009 (edited) There are quite a number that have no 'easy' access, being in gardens, on military property, inside reservoir compounds and the like. There are even more that are accessible but not on public rights of way. I guess it depends on what you personally decide is a 'baggable' trigpoint. Some people just need to see them and if it's a case of looking through a fence into someone's garden or 'losing you way' a little and walking along the edge of a field then that's OK. For me, I have to touch them and take photographs of the FB and spider. That makes it a little more 'interesting' and is why I do most of my trigpointing in full camo and early in the morning Edited February 17, 2009 by Pharisee Quote
+The Blorenges Posted February 17, 2009 Posted February 17, 2009 ... why I do most of my trigpointing in full camo and early in the morning Pharisee on an early morning trigpointing mission. MrsB Quote
+Pharisee Posted February 17, 2009 Posted February 17, 2009 ... why I do most of my trigpointing in full camo and early in the morning Pharisee on an early morning trigpointing mission. MrsB ROTFLMAO.... Classic, Mrs B. That brightened up an otherwise boring day. Thanks Quote
+Bear and Ragged Posted February 17, 2009 Posted February 17, 2009 ... why I do most of my trigpointing in full camo and early in the morning Pharisee on an early morning trigpointing mission. MrsB I take it that Pharisee, as his sigline is "Age and treachery will always triumph over youth and ability" is the one on the left... Quote
Deego Posted February 23, 2009 Posted February 23, 2009 (edited) Can you tell me the name of the trigpoint so I can have a look at it ? I am one of the admins on http://www.trigpointinguk.com. The cow photo made me smile as Pharisee took a photo of me and a cow a good few years back at a trigpoint whole I was taking this shot. Edited February 23, 2009 by Deego Quote
+Tavisman Posted February 23, 2009 Author Posted February 23, 2009 Can you tell me the name of the trigpoint so I can have a look at it ? I am one of the admins on http://www.trigpointinguk.com. Is is here... Hurcott. Quote
+Bear and Ragged Posted February 23, 2009 Posted February 23, 2009 Previous logged visits on T:UK suggest it used to be in the hedge! Quote
Sagina nivalis Posted February 25, 2009 Posted February 25, 2009 Previous logged visits on T:UK suggest it used to be in the hedge! OS trigname Wimbury. Reading the TUK logs it used to be easy. How's your night vision Early or late can work well. Good luck. Quote
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