+Jackplug Posted October 15, 2006 Posted October 15, 2006 (edited) Went out early to this cacheNot A Lady and searched for an hour but it was not be, it was 5 am so returned at 12:30 to find the cache owner only now placing the cache. I do not think this is good enough another cacher had been to the site too. Kevin Edited October 15, 2006 by Jackplug Quote
+Team Balders Posted October 15, 2006 Posted October 15, 2006 With the usual rush of activity once a new cache has been published, with everyone trying for the FTF, it would make sense for the cache to actually be in place - would it not? Quote
+John Stead Posted October 15, 2006 Posted October 15, 2006 With the usual rush of activity once a new cache has been published, with everyone trying for the FTF, it would make sense for the cache to actually be in place - would it not? It certainly would - I caught myself out this way once having set up a cache but not yet placed it, I had a message from a cacher I had never met before that he was on his way to my patch to find it. Rushed it into the oven to dry the paint, shot up to the cache site (0.75 miles!), hid it and then stood back to be rewarded a few minutes later by seeing said gentleman coming through bushes behind - he was a little surprised to hear his real name called out! He went on to be the first in UK to 1000. I won't make that mistake again, Quote
lakeuk Posted October 15, 2006 Posted October 15, 2006 Shouldn't a cache only go for review once it's actually in place? Quote
Alan White Posted October 15, 2006 Posted October 15, 2006 Which is exactly why the guidelines say Your cache should be in place and ready to hunt at the time your cache page is submitted for review. Quote
+Eckington Posted October 15, 2006 Posted October 15, 2006 "Yes, this listing is active (For new listings, if you want to work on this listing before it is reviewed, uncheck this box. Reviewers will only see the listing in the queue when it is checked.)" We do not see the cache page for review until the box marked as above is ticked. If the box is ticked we see the cache page and assume that the infomation is corect...................... Quote
+sTeamTraen Posted October 15, 2006 Posted October 15, 2006 >>When is A Cache not A Cache When it's a jar ? I'll get me coat... Quote
+Eckington Posted October 15, 2006 Posted October 15, 2006 If the box is ticked we see the cache page and assume that the infomation is corect...................... Which is more than my spelling was Quote
+Dorsetgal & GeoDog Posted October 15, 2006 Posted October 15, 2006 Seems like an honest oversight, and you can probably bet your bottom dollar they won't do it again! The real question to my mind is this, did they deserve naming and shaming in a public forum? Probably not, a simple thread reminding people to make sure the cache is out there when the page is published would probably have done the trick just as well. I'm not trying to take away from your frustration, but I feel we must support eachother in this community, especially someone who has taken the time and trouble to contribute to the game for us all. Quote
+Cryptik Souls Crew Posted October 15, 2006 Posted October 15, 2006 Its happened to me before, I just came home. Not the end of the world, eh? Quote
+Renegade Knight Posted October 15, 2006 Posted October 15, 2006 It's a common mistake. Some people think the approval process is about the location of the cache and that's what's getting approved. Since the location may not get approved they hold on putting the cache in the spot until it is. Come to think of it, the approval process is mostly about location. We all learn, sometimes the hard way. Quote
+FollowMeChaps Posted October 15, 2006 Posted October 15, 2006 (edited) I fully agree with Dorsetgal & GeoDog that it was surely an oversight - don't call me Shirley! Shame on Jackplug for naming an shaming someone putting out a cache, the point could easily have been made without the link. Whilst I agree the cache should have been in place before submission it's an easy mistake to make, especially as the new cache report defaults to having the submission box already checked. If FTFs are what drives you then you'll have to take the rough with the smoothe. Many thanks davidwk for being brave enough to place caches. You deserve congatulating not deriding. I hope you get loads of enjoyment from all the positive logs who enjoy your cache - just ignore the moaners, they even exist in Geocaching I'm afraid. Edited October 15, 2006 by FollowMeChaps Quote
Alan White Posted October 15, 2006 Posted October 15, 2006 How can it possibly be an "oversight" to fill in a form saying you've placed a cache and asking for it to be published, without actually having placed the cache? A slightly different example: a cache has recently been placed near to us. We checked the coords on Fugawi, TrackLogs and GoogleEarth. All said they were in the middle of a field well away from the described spot. We queried it with the owner and he's privately told us what the coords really are. But he hasn't changed the published coords nor (as he might be waiting for a reviewer to do it) posted a note or disabled the cache. So people could be out there now looking for the cache in a place it isn't. People spend time and money seeking caches. They don't want to waste either. A little thought and care is all that's required. Quote
+Dorsetgal & GeoDog Posted October 15, 2006 Posted October 15, 2006 I don't think anyone is saying it wasn't unfortunate, however, if ritual humiliation on these boards is a consequence of a simple error, oversight, call it what you will, then people, quite rightly will shy away from settng caches in the first place. Then where will we be? Come on now, nobody died did they? Quote
Alan White Posted October 15, 2006 Posted October 15, 2006 And another cache, apparently near us, has, after three teams DNFed it, just been updated to correct the hemisphere. Quote
+Pieman Posted October 15, 2006 Posted October 15, 2006 And another cache, apparently near us, has, after three teams DNFed it, just been updated to correct the hemisphere. I sent a cache for review with the wrong country checked! The kind reviewer for the Western Sahara suggested that I might want to change the location to the UK. Quote
+douglasf Posted October 15, 2006 Posted October 15, 2006 A slightly different example: a cache has recently been placed near to us. We checked the coords on Fugawi, TrackLogs and GoogleEarth. All said they were in the middle of a field well away from the described spot. We queried it with the owner and he's privately told us what the coords really are. But he hasn't changed the published coords nor (as he might be waiting for a reviewer to do it) posted a note or disabled the cache. So people could be out there now looking for the cache in a place it isn't. Assuming this is a recent cache beside the Motorway I find this a little harsh as I know the owner. He is new to Geocaching and doesn't use the forums He made a simple mistake on the coords which he has rectified by notifying the admins and putting a note on the cache with the right coords. Anyone looking for the cache can refer to the note. He didn't do it deliberately and I know he is a little upset about it. And as it happens it's a very nice field.... Quote
+douglasf Posted October 15, 2006 Posted October 15, 2006 I don't think anyone is saying it wasn't unfortunate, however, if ritual humiliation on these boards is a consequence of a simple error, oversight, call it what you will, then people, quite rightly will shy away from settng caches in the first place. Then where will we be? Come on now, nobody died did they? Here here Quote
+Cryptik Souls Crew Posted October 15, 2006 Posted October 15, 2006 And another cache, apparently near us, has, after three teams DNFed it, just been updated to correct the hemisphere. One of those teams was us, after our log we received an apology from the setter for the mistake. As I said before, its no big deal when things like this happen. Quote
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