O'hana Posted August 2, 2005 Share Posted August 2, 2005 I want to see the new cache type. Elongated pennies. Some of us collectors want to combine both of our passions. Some ideas for the cache type : 1) no proximity rules - some penny machines are located close to exsiting caches. 2) to log it - a description of the pennies produced must be made. Link to comment
+Stunod Posted August 2, 2005 Share Posted August 2, 2005 Sounds like a great locationless for you to submit when they come online soon. Link to comment
+The Leprechauns Posted August 2, 2005 Share Posted August 2, 2005 Or, just find the penny machines already logged on this locationless cache, and add your own log if you know of one that isn't listed. Link to comment
+Marky Posted August 2, 2005 Share Posted August 2, 2005 Or, just find the penny machines already logged on this locationless cache, and add your own log if you know of one that isn't listed. I'm pretty sure there are still a few that haven't been found. --Marky Link to comment
+pghlooking Posted August 2, 2005 Share Posted August 2, 2005 Sounds like a great locationless for you to submit when they come online soon. Speaking of locationless caches, any word on the release date yet? Link to comment
+sbell111 Posted August 2, 2005 Share Posted August 2, 2005 I'm pretty sure there are still a few that haven't been found. --Marky I very typically don't trade. When I do, I generally just move junk from one cache to another. However, last winter I logged a squished penny cache after you did. Your penny is among the few items that I have kept. Link to comment
+Glenn Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 At first I was going to say that it sounds like a themed cache. But after doing a little looking around it sounds like an interesting idea. Some stores have machines that make elongated pennies. The design pressed in to the penny is usually unique to the area. Each cache would be set up with the coordinates of one machine. As proof of your visit you would have to make an elongated penny with the machine and send it to me, I mean, add a photo of it to the log. Not every unlike webcam caches. Link to comment
Jeremy Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 I think it was such a good idea it was made into a locationless cache. I don't think it is really a cache though, is it? As noted earlier in the thread, the locationless cache solution will handle this nicely. Obviously we'll provide the current locationless cache owner the ability to take over this concept first since s/he was there first. Link to comment
+Pork King Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 ...Obviously we'll provide the current locationless cache owner the ability to take over this concept first since s/he was there first. So does that mean all old locationless caches will be deleted once the new system is up? Link to comment
+StarBrand Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 May became June - June turned into July - July is now August.....sigh. We will see it yet....... I too collect these Penny's - Thanks for pointing out a place to find thier locations... Link to comment
Jeremy Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 May became June - June turned into July - July is now August.....sigh. We will see it yet....... Like I said before, it is already public. There's just no link to it. Link to comment
+StarBrand Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 May became June - June turned into July - July is now August.....sigh. We will see it yet....... Like I said before, it is already public. There's just no link to it. I'm public - I want to see it (you know my email Jeremy ---- please!!) Link to comment
O'hana Posted August 3, 2005 Author Share Posted August 3, 2005 www.pennyatlas.com unfortunatly - there is a lack of people actually contributing to this site - although it is not a geocaching type deal - more of an atlas of where to find machines. I have also noticed that GPS is not normally listed. I have made some listings to this site & also i am compiling a list @ http://squishpennies.proboards46.com. I encourage all penny freaks to go there and start a list for your state. I have tried to list these as a virtual cache but it was not approved. Now I am trying a traditional cache because the item is actually there to see. The only problem is the proximity rules that exist (.01) - as far as i understand , there is a new thing coming that is in alpha testing but what it is & why we have not heard anything is beyond me. I have about 300 GPS locations & pennies coming out my ears. The two major creators of this device have told me that there are more than 30,000 worldwide & they have told me that there are about 20 independant makers of these machines. Link to comment
Jeremy Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 I have tried to list these as a virtual cache but it was not approved. Now I am trying a traditional cache because the item is actually there to see. Seriously, read Lep's post further up the page. There's already a locationless cache for them. There are no proximity issues with locationless caches so stop posting new traditionals and virtuals. Link to comment
+Tidalflame Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 While we're at it, let's add new cache types for funny-shaped houses, pink cars, Starbucks stores, square watermelons, and theatres with more than 6 screens. </sarcasm> I mean no offense by that, but seriously, we can't just go adding new cache types for specific objects... Link to comment
+Glenn Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 While we're at it, let's add new cache types for funny-shaped houses, pink cars, Starbucks stores, square watermelons, and theatres with more than 6 screens. </sarcasm> I mean no offense by that, but seriously, we can't just go adding new cache types for specific objects... I'd agree except that an elongated penny machine is almost cache like. In none of your examples do you put in a couple of trinkets and get a trinket in return. Also, you are forced to trade up . There is no log to sign. But, the enlongated penny you just made is as much proof of your visit as a code word that you have email to the cache owner to get credit for the cache find. Think of not as container type but rather a new logging method. I found the cache and as my proof here is this elongated penny. Link to comment
+Marky Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 There is no log to sign. But, the enlongated penny you just made is as much proof of your visit as a code word that you have email to the cache owner to get credit for the cache find. I would make them mail me a smashed penny to prove they were there. Seriously though, our locationless cache already allows for trading! It also collects waypoints of smashed pennies. And if you use this link you can enter a zipcode or coordinate of where you are going to be and it will show you nearby penny smashers. For example, here are penny smashers near pier 39. The red dot is the center of the 94133 zipcode. The yellow dots are (or were, at one time) penny smashers. --Marky Link to comment
Jeremy Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 While we're at it, let's add new cache types for funny-shaped houses, pink cars, Starbucks stores, square watermelons, and theatres with more than 6 screens. </sarcasm> I mean no offense by that, but seriously, we can't just go adding new cache types for specific objects... Heh. Well that's what locationless caches are all about, and they aren't really caches. Fortunately the solution to them is coming very close to launching goodness. Link to comment
+mini cacher Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 just to add one more thing to the mix... wouldn't penny smashing machine caches kind of go against the "Commercial Caches" section in the guidlines? Commercial Caches / Caches that Solicit Commercial caches attempt to use the Geocaching.com web site cache reporting tool directly or indirectly (intentionally or non-intentionally) to solicit customers through a Geocaching.com listing. These are NOT permitted. Examples include for-profit locations that require an entrance fee, or locations that sell products or services. I mean, the machines usually take 51 cents to get a smashed penny and the machine owner gets the profit... how is that NOT "commercial" or "to solicit"? OF course GC.com has the right to make these an exeption. Link to comment
+sbell111 Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 They wouldn't be commercial if the owner did not require that a penny was squished. Link to comment
+ChileHead Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 While we're at it, let's add new cache types for funny-shaped houses, pink cars, Starbucks stores, square watermelons, and theatres with more than 6 screens. </sarcasm> I mean no offense by that, but seriously, we can't just go adding new cache types for specific objects... Heh. Well that's what locationless caches are all about, and they aren't really caches. Fortunately the solution to them is coming very close to launching goodness. I'm looking forward to seeing what the new solution is all about! I'm not big on the locationless/virtual game anyway, but I hope you've come up with something innovative and new! Link to comment
+Hynr Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 They wouldn't be commercial if the owner did not require that a penny was squished.Being a commercial venture is not about what happens to the copper disk (penny), it's about the fact that it is for-profit (the $0.50 that is collected). The fact that it is a commericial venture is based on the fact that someone is making a profit or, if it happens to not be profitable directly, acts as an enhancement to a commercial activity. Just look at the hype at the websites marketing these machines. Link to comment
Jeremy Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 just to add one more thing to the mix... wouldn't penny smashing machine caches kind of go against the "Commercial Caches" section in the guidlines? Yet another reason why locationless caches aren't really caches. The commercialism issue will be irrelevant in the new solution as it is not geocaching nor will it be treated with the same guidelines. Link to comment
Jeremy Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 I'm looking forward to seeing what the new solution is all about! I'm not big on the locationless/virtual game anyway, but I hope you've come up with something innovative and new! Well, just in case your expectations are set too high, the new solution absolutely sucks. It is very awful and smells like a fish cannery. Link to comment
+ChileHead Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 just to add one more thing to the mix... wouldn't penny smashing machine caches kind of go against the "Commercial Caches" section in the guidlines? Yet another reason why locationless caches aren't really caches. The commercialism issue will be irrelevant in the new solution as it is not geocaching nor will it be treated with the same guidelines. Oh c'mon ... give us some more details? Would you believe www.geocaching.com/locationless doesn't work? Thought I might get lucky. :-) Link to comment
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