+FtMgAl Posted August 27, 2004 Share Posted August 27, 2004 There is a cache very close to where I live that needs attention. I can’t decide what I should do so I’m looking for some guidance from more experienced cachers. The cache is Gulf Shores SP . It has a long history with 176 log entries so far. The owner, however, hasn’t logged onto geocaching.com since December of last year nor has the owner responded to multiple emails in the past couple of months. There are several problems with the cache. First there are two containers. The cache was first placed 6/6/02. By 8/8/02 it was reported missing so the owner replaced it. I don’t believe it was actually missing but rather just misplaced because by January some were reporting that the coordinates were off while others thought they were correct. Later there are pictures of 2 different containers in different logs. To make a long story short, there are actually two containers about 60 feet apart. The log books in these containers indicate that about half the people find one and half find the other. I will call the large original container O and the new container N. Next problem was that N was recently ransacked, found, and rehidden in a slightly different location. Both O and N are within a reasonable margin of error on the coordinates with N maybe being slightly closer. Both match the clue. When I originally found N it was probably where the owner had placed it but its new location is much better being harder to find unintentionally and somewhat harder intentionally. The O location is more likely to be flooded but it matches the clue slightly better and seems to be more fun to find (people report “I stepped on it.”). N was evidently not sealed properly on a recent visit and had water in the bottom when I checked yesterday. (I drained it and resealed it.) O is in a very wet location but seems fine though humid inside. Both are in need of a good scrubbing. There is at least one travel bug listed that is missing. The TB owner was contacted with no response. Due to being ransacked the swag in N is minimal but O is full with some pretty good stuff. So, if you are still with me, the question – How much can/should I do to help this cache. It has been suggested that I retrieve both containers, clean up the best one and restock it with the best from both and rehide just the one. I don’t think this is right since I’m not the owner. I can clean a container a little in the field, resupply small items like a log book and baggies, and add more natural cover. IMHO, however, the owner is responsible for removing containers, removing good though not great swag, etc. I see these options: 1. Do nothing – it’s doing fine by itself – why get involved when there are caches with far worse problems (such as the owner’s only other active cache which has nothing this year except 4 DNF’s). 2. Do some minimal cleaning in the field and keep an eye on the logs trying to help when I can but feeling no responsibility to answer every question or problem. 3. Remove both containers and replace with a single with just the best swag from both and then keep an eye on it. Answer any questions in the logs about location, etc. And if the owner ever shows up, hand him a damp bag of junk. 4. Initiate adoption proceedings. 5. Post a “Needs Archived” note and, if successful (which I doubt), place my own cache in the same location because it is a good spot for a cache as evidenced by the longevity and quality of the logs. On a scale of 1-5 I’m leaning toward about 1.5-1.6 with an occasional burst toward 2.2. If the problems were more serious I would escalate but the cache seems to be doing very well considering it is an orphan. I would like to have other’s thoughts and/or some different options. P.S. I hope your answers are shorter than my question. Quote Link to comment
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