Chuck4Jan Posted May 20, 2002 Share Posted May 20, 2002 I have an Earthmater receiver and Street Atlas Deluxe software and it works great on my laptop in the car. I would like to replace the laptop with a PDA. Which one would you recommend and what connecting cables and software would I need. I forgot to mention that this will be used for traveling. Thanks for the help. Quote Link to comment
+M-D-M Explorations Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 I have a Handspring Visor with a Magellan Companion attached to it and I have enjoyed it a lot. I never owned a single purpose GPSr to compare with, but I like having the added computing ability of the PDA for notes, logging info, etc. And the features of the GPS software have not hindered my hunting yet. As we get in shape for more difficult hunts I will be curious to see how it performs. But a recent hunt showed my readings to be exact with the readings of the cache I was hunting. Quote Link to comment
+Clan Ferguson Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 Now the hikes we go on aren't that grueling or terrain intensive. But I have dropped my E-trex more then once. Thank the maker for laynards and impact resitant plastic. I am pretty sure my PDA would not take the same abuse. Cache On!! James "Big Dog" -Clan Ferguson Quote Link to comment
sc Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 My Earthmate's primary function was with a laptoop in the car too. For Geocaching I use the earthmate with a Palm IIIc running Delorme's Solus 2.0 software (Topo 3.0 data). The Earthmate-Palm cable came with the Earthmate & software as a package deal. I believe you can get the cable direct from Delorme, but it is expensive for what it is. May also be available from a third party manufacturer. The set-up works well, but it is a bit cumbersome and I do worry about dropping the Palm. However, it is nice having the color topo map of where I am. Overkill for Geocaching, though. The set-up became more practical when I figured out that I could put the earthmate on my shoulder (using a pouch/shoulder strap that came free with a disposable APS camera). Difficult to be inconspicuous like this, though :-) By the way: Although I can theoretically use the calculator or carry cache descriptions etc. in the Palm it isn't very practical to exit from Solus to do so. I am considering buying a basic Etrex for geocaching eventually. They are only $80 when on sale. Although I like the funtionality of the set-up I'm using... I don't know that it is what I would *recommend* to someone. I chose this route because was planning on using the Earthmate with a laptop and the PDA as... well... as a PDA. Quote Link to comment
+parkrrrr Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 quote:Originally posted by sc:By the way: Although I can theoretically use the calculator or carry cache descriptions etc. in the Palm it isn't very practical to exit from Solus to do so. I had that problem too, though I use a different program for my GPS needs. I found a solution for both the calculator and memo pad that don't require me to exit the currently running application. If you use them, you will also need some sort of Desk Accessory launcher; I already had TealLaunch for other reasons, so that's what I use. Quote Link to comment
sc Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 quote:Originally posted by Warm Fuzzies - Fuzzy: I had that problem too, though I use a different program for my GPS needs... Hmmm... I'd be interested in checking out alternatives to Solus. What is it? Thanks for the link to the calculator/memopad. I'll check them out. Quote Link to comment
+parkrrrr Posted May 22, 2002 Share Posted May 22, 2002 It just occured to me that if you're using a DeLorme Earthmate GPS, chances are you don't have many choices beyond Solus. I don't think that particular GPS does NMEA-0183. In case I'm mistaken, though... I've found that different programs are good for different things. What's currently installed on my Palm are: Magellan Nav Companion (came with my GPS Companion, but works with any GPS) Magellan Map Companion (only works with GPS Companion) GPSPilot Tracker (that's what's in the picture. The cache is Earthling Vector Mercury, GC4C19) Cetus GPS There's also GeoNiche, which you can find on Palmgear.com, but I haven't gotten an opportunity to try it yet. In addition to those GPS-specific programs, the "Geocaching" category on my Palm contains Planetarium because it can serve as a compass in a pinch and because it computes magnetic declination based on position. [This message was edited by Warm Fuzzies - Fuzzy on May 22, 2002 at 02:47 PM.] Quote Link to comment
sc Posted May 22, 2002 Share Posted May 22, 2002 Good point... the Earthmate doesn't do NMEA. For PC-based software there is a work-around which may be applicable in some cases: http://members.ozemail.com.au/~tooraj/eartha2nmea.htm Something that does the same for Palm would be nice... Quote Link to comment
sc Posted May 22, 2002 Share Posted May 22, 2002 Cetus does not support Earthmate, but GPS Pilot Tracker does. Quote Link to comment
+Wander Lost Posted May 22, 2002 Share Posted May 22, 2002 I have the Handspring Visor with the Magellan GPS companion. I'm happy with mine so far. We were originally looking at something like the little yellow Etrex or the Magellan 315. Then we found the Magellan on sale for $80 with a $50 mail in rebate!! If I didn't already have the Visor I'm not sure I'd choose this combo for geocaching. But as a second unit for the family the price was hard to beat. A stand alone gps is probally a better way to go. They are built for the outdoors and can take the abuse better. If you are going to get a PDA anyway and can get the cables and such for the GPSr you have then I'd suggest making sure you get a PDA with alot of on board memory and color graphics. The grayscale graphics on my Visor can be hard to read depending on the conditions. If ignorance is bliss, why aren't there more happy people?? Quote Link to comment
Ianic Posted May 28, 2002 Share Posted May 28, 2002 I have setup my Magellan 315 with my Jornada 540 and I don't use it for geocaching. The standalone GPS is less cumbersome and sturdier. I built the cable myself because GPS data cables are way overpriced. The Color display of the Jornada is useless in the outdoors because it's unreadable. I've never used a Palmpilot or an equivalent, but the black and white display is probably easier to read. I use my GPS/Jornada setup when travelling in the car with MS Pocket Streets. I have also tried it while hiking with a topographic map and Pocket Ozi Explorer. Nice to have to visualise where you are but the difficulty of reading the Jornada display limits its use. Ianic To infinity... and Beyond Quote Link to comment
sc Posted May 28, 2002 Share Posted May 28, 2002 The Palm IIIc color display display is not *great* outdoors, but it is usable. If money was no object I guess a nice color all-in-one unit would be nice... but the Earthmate/Palm IIIc/Solus/Topo 3 combination does give me topographical maps while I'm caching. Quote Link to comment
+Scook Posted May 28, 2002 Share Posted May 28, 2002 I always carry my Compaq Aero with me. I've used a serial cable to interface it to my old Lowrance GlobalNav12. The combination was too cumbersome to be useful. The B&W display is great in the sun. Though I've dropped it, the worst that has happened (so far) is I've lost a stylus. I do have a waterproof case but never use it, just a padded case is enough. What I do use it for is to keep a copy of every cache page that's in my Etrex Legend. Pocket PCs have Internet Explorer built in and I don't bother with the images, just the text. That way I never have to shuffle through papers and or print out the information. (Save them trees!) The only problem is I have to remember to update the pages if the information changes. That's bitten me more than once. Right now, I have about 350 cache pages using up about half of a 32Mb Compactflash card. I travel with a Casio EM-500 also but it's display is useless in bright sunlight. It's memory card has my talking books (Audible.com) to fill up the time between caches. Super Cacher! Quote Link to comment
+Harrald Posted May 28, 2002 Share Posted May 28, 2002 Maybe for a walk in the park a palm like unit is ok. But in the woods I would only carry a regular GPSr. I have dropped my GPSr a couple of times and it’s banged against trees and rocks while I was climbing. I have been thinking about using a palm for storing web pages while I’m out. But it wouldn’t come out of my pack unless I knew I wasn’t going to trash it. ==================================== As always, the above statements are just MHO. ==================================== Quote Link to comment
+blscearce Posted June 4, 2002 Share Posted June 4, 2002 This has been mentioned in other threads, so I assume that most people who care about it already know. I have some simplified cache pages available that work pretty well with web-to-PDA converters like AvantGo, iSilo or Plucker. My web page has geographical ones that are open to anyone, and personalized ones for people who have found my Travel Bugs . Quote Link to comment
+DougsBrat Posted June 5, 2002 Share Posted June 5, 2002 quote:Originally posted by blscearce: This has been mentioned in other threads, so I assume that most people who care about it already know. I have some http://www.pathetique.com/geocaching/ available that work pretty well with web-to-PDA converters like AvantGo, iSilo or Plucker. My web page has geographical ones that are open to anyone, and personalized ones for people who have found my http://www.pathetique.com/locate/blscearce-bugs.html . these pages are great! I keep them loaded on my visor via avantgo. but I have a problem now. I use to keep all the texas caches in there, but that has exceeded the page limit on avantgo. when I narrow it to say Tx-Dallas there are far too few. (lots area between major cities missing) could Texas be broken down (north/south or Traditional/virtual)so they all would fit again? and thanks for a good job on the pages. No matter where you go... There you are! Quote Link to comment
+blscearce Posted June 6, 2002 Share Posted June 6, 2002 quote:Originally posted by DougsBrat: I use to keep all the texas caches in there, but that has exceeded the page limit on avantgo. [...]could Texas be broken down (north/south or Traditional/virtual)so they all would fit again? I certainly don't want to mess with Texas. If you're exceeding the AvantGo page limit, then breaking the Texas index up (I believe I'm constitutionally permitted to break it into five pieces) won't help you get all of Texas -- you'll still have to pick the part you want, trying to get all the parts will cause you to exceed the limit again. There are no page limits with Plucker or iSilo. And if you find one of my Travel Bugs, I can make a custom index for you. Quote Link to comment
rabrad Posted June 11, 2003 Share Posted June 11, 2003 Question will the GPS Tracker software proform as the Cetus Program does (the compass and pointer) ? I use a Palm IIIc and Navman P for now but like everyone else it's overkill for GEO Caching. quote:Originally posted by sc:Cetus does not support Earthmate, but GPS Pilot Tracker does. Quote Link to comment
av1atorbo Posted June 11, 2003 Share Posted June 11, 2003 I've used my PDA for downloading the coordinates and info using Word, then when I'm on the road and want to do a cache, I just put the coords into the gps, and go with it... otherwise, it's downloading from laptop into GPSr before a day of caching. Quote Link to comment
+TeamThompson Posted June 12, 2003 Share Posted June 12, 2003 Hi, I've got a Palm Vx attached to a Rand McNally Streetfinder GPSr (essentually the same as the Magellan Companions). I'm using Quo Vadis for Palm OS from MarcoSoft for mapping and gross navigation (getting me within a half mile or so), then Cetus for moving in to zero. One of the reasons I like Quo Vadis is that the maps are relatively small (vector based), and the performance is pretty good. Cetus does a nicer job of tracking you in on target though. I've also got MobiPocket for reading cache descriptions from my PocketQueries. There will shortly be a build of GPSBabel available that understands Quo Vadis's Marker database format (I just got the first attempt working last night and I want to fiddle with it before checking it in) so you can have all the power of GPSBabel for putting together the waypoint lists for both Cetus and Quo Vadis (GPSBabel already supports Cetus). Cheers, Bruce. Quote Link to comment
+parkrrrr Posted June 12, 2003 Share Posted June 12, 2003 quote:Originally posted by Thompson Family: I've also got MobiPocket for reading cache descriptions from my PocketQueries. Don't use that. It's got horrible bugs (it's been known to crash at inopportune times), it violates standards (it uses the PalmDoc TEXt/REAd creator/AppID but isn't compatible with other PalmDoc programs), and by using it you're supporting the kind of people who believe the DMCA is a good thing. Instead, use GPX Spinner or GPXDoc to make your cache listings Palm-compatible. Quote Link to comment
+Shoebox Posted June 12, 2003 Share Posted June 12, 2003 I used to carry my Visor with a belt clip, but no more. I took a tumble and easily cracked the screen. Had to shell out $100 for the repair. The PDAs are not nearly as sturdy as the GPS. Now I keep it in the backpack or at home. One thing you should add to your PDA is a Hint Decoder program http://www.palmgear.com/software/showsoftware.cfm?prodID=29696 . It makes the decoding quite easy. Quote Link to comment
+TeamThompson Posted June 13, 2003 Share Posted June 13, 2003 quote:Originally posted by Warm Fuzzies - Fuzzy:Don't use that. It's got horrible bugs (it's been known to crash at inopportune times), it violates standards (it uses the PalmDoc TEXt/REAd creator/AppID but isn't compatible with other PalmDoc programs), and by using it you're supporting the kind of people who believe the http://www.chillingeffects.org/copyright is a good thing. Instead, use http://gpxspinner.com or http://parkrrrr.com/gpxdoc.html to make your cache listings Palm-compatible. http://216.202.195.127/warm.gif Eeeekkkk!!!!! Thanks for the heads up! MobiPocket is now officially history from my machine! I'm somewhat rabid about opposition to the DMCA, CTEA etc. etc. so that's a very important bit of news. Cheers, Bruce. Quote Link to comment
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