+Natureboy44 Posted November 28, 2003 Share Posted November 28, 2003 Hey all, Just wanted to say that we should remember to take the time to log our "Did Not Finds." While I'm probably as guilty as most in not always logging these in, a recent DNF for one of my caches gave me a head up that my cache had been damaged. In retrospect, I've also found DNFs to be as if not more informative than "I found" logs in helping me validate the difficulty ratings I've given my caches. My thanks to all of you who take the time. Quote Link to comment
+HartClimbs Posted November 28, 2003 Share Posted November 28, 2003 No worries - I've been logging enough DNF's lately to provide hours of entertaining reading! Seriously though, good suggestion. it's funny how many FOUND logs are written and how few DNF's. I sometimes enjoy writing the DNF logs more than the finds (although maybe it's just because I get so much practice writing them!). Quote Link to comment
+DustyJacket Posted November 29, 2003 Share Posted November 29, 2003 I did a DNF festival today. Logged 4 of them. Quote Link to comment
+JMBella Posted November 29, 2003 Share Posted November 29, 2003 I've changed my attitude lately on DNFs. I was ashamed, embarrassed they made me feel worthless! No not really, just my competitive nature I guess. I log them now, mainly because I don't really care either way but also as stated it helps the cache owner. Quote Link to comment
+Mickey225 Posted November 30, 2003 Share Posted November 30, 2003 Well the way I see it, it let's the owner know that there might be a problem. I know that for me, if I give a REALLY good search and can't find it, then I post a DNF. Also it's nice for the next cacher looking for it to see as well. If I only look for a little bit, then I'll post a note. Quote Link to comment
+javamutt Posted November 30, 2003 Share Posted November 30, 2003 Just curious - is it more proper to edit an original DNF entry adding below it, or is it more common to simply add an entirely new DNF posting to it? I've had a few caches that took numrous trips but never really figured out how I should log them... Quote Link to comment
+DustyJacket Posted November 30, 2003 Share Posted November 30, 2003 Just curious - is it more proper to edit an original DNF entry adding below it, or is it more common to simply add an entirely new DNF posting to it? I've had a few caches that took numrous trips but never really figured out how I should log them... I add a DNF or a Found for each trip I go to a cache and get out of the car. Quote Link to comment
+Team Og Rof A Klaw Posted November 30, 2003 Share Posted November 30, 2003 We post a DNF or a Found for every serious attempt we make on a cache. (If we aren't able to search for the cache, it's not a serious attempt.) No embarrasment -- we've been able to help the owners resolve problems twice by posting DNFs. If we find the cache later, we erase the DNF. Quote Link to comment
+OzGuff Posted November 30, 2003 Share Posted November 30, 2003 My father-in-law and I went out the day after Thanksgiving to find some caches near the Blue Ridge Parkway. Temperature starting out was 42 F, sky clear, future looked bright! Our first stop was for a new cache (placed 11/20/03) in an arboretum on the grounds of a community college--how hard can that be? After 30 minutes of searching amidst briars, mud, and an incessantly barking dog we gave up. By this time it was near freezing and a few flakes of snow had started to fall. On the way back to the car I noticed that the coords both ended in "0" and wondered if the placers had inadvertantly used the wrong format. Converted the coords (e.g., 30.300 converted to 30.500) and found ourselves in.....an arboretum! By this time using the hint was a necessity (or how were we to get to the other 8 caches we had planned); it mentioned a grindstone--we found 2--neither with a cache! Crap! We gave up again. Logged a DNF. Emailed the placer. Found out it had been removed until this Sunday! Arggh!!! By the way, my f-i-l and I still enjoyed the hunt! We had one other DNF that day, but at 25 F and snowing we didn't actually look too hard/long for a micro hidden on the side of a muddy hill. We did get 3 more finds that day, and then had to endure an hour drive along the Parkway in blinding snow; the entrance gates had actually been closed when we got there. (Fortunately, we were able to use the exit gates!) Sorry about the length of this post; I log DNFs if I actually search for any length of time and don't find it. If I drive up to the general area and decide to not search (due to time of day, presence of non-cachers, weather, etc.) no DNF is logged. And as a placer of caches I appreciate the DNFs as a warning of a possible problem. OzGuff Quote Link to comment
+DustyJacket Posted November 30, 2003 Share Posted November 30, 2003 We post a DNF or a Found for every serious attempt we make on a cache. (If we aren't able to search for the cache, it's not a serious attempt.) No embarrasment -- we've been able to help the owners resolve problems twice by posting DNFs. If we find the cache later, we erase the DNF. I never erase the DNF. I just post the find, sometimes referring to the DNF. Quote Link to comment
+RobRee Posted December 1, 2003 Share Posted December 1, 2003 hey JMBella, i logged a DNF on your footbridge cache today. hope to log a find today on it. robbie Quote Link to comment
+Mickey225 Posted December 1, 2003 Share Posted December 1, 2003 Just curious - is it more proper to edit an original DNF entry adding below it, or is it more common to simply add an entirely new DNF posting to it? I've had a few caches that took numrous trips but never really figured out how I should log them... I usually leave it there so that this way it shows that I was there more than 1 time Quote Link to comment
+RobRee Posted December 2, 2003 Share Posted December 2, 2003 JMB the DNF we logged the other day prompted people to email us little hints. we used some of the hints and went back to find it. that footbridge cache is hidden so well, but yet so obvious. makes you wonder why when you look so hard, you don't see what is really there. great hide. we always log the DNFs, and this log paid off big. robbie Quote Link to comment
+MissJenn Posted December 3, 2003 Share Posted December 3, 2003 Just wanted to say that we should remember to take the time to log our "Did Not Finds." A very excellent reminder. I know of a certain thick cache near me where each and every one of the several DNF logs have been very telling and are serving a good purpose. Quote Link to comment
Keystone Posted December 3, 2003 Share Posted December 3, 2003 I know of a certain thick cache near me where each and every one of the several DNF logs have been very telling and are serving a good purpose. Some of the "Note" logs also make for very interesting reading. Since I don't log finds or not-founds on my reviewer account, I write notes when I need to get into the thick of things. Quote Link to comment
+Polgara Posted December 4, 2003 Share Posted December 4, 2003 (edited) Just wanted to say that we should remember to take the time to log our "Did Not Finds." A very excellent reminder. I know of a certain thick cache near me where each and every one of the several DNF logs have been very telling and are serving a good purpose. yea...the DNFs for that are quite thick aren't they... Edited December 4, 2003 by Ce'Nedra Quote Link to comment
+Waterboy Posted December 5, 2003 Share Posted December 5, 2003 Today we went for a hike and a single cache. We had a very enjoyable DNF/hike. Our biggest disappointment to date is a quick easy find on a north Jersey cache that had a difficulty/terrain rating of 3.5/4.5. We are far happier with a good DNF than a camouflaged 3.5/2 or a legitimate “Lameo”. Quote Link to comment
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