+NeuroNomad Posted July 18, 2003 Share Posted July 18, 2003 Well I am finally getting my Garmin back tomorrow. I loaned it out to my brother for a trip he was going on. I must say that for the past two weeks I have felt so naked without it. I could not stop my GeoCaching fever though, I went on a number of hunts last week using MapQuest and Yahoo maps. I had a lot of fun GeoCaching even without the GPSr, (though I can't wait to get it back). Is there anyone out there that hunts caches solely without a GPSr? Pardon me Sir, but there is a Wild GeoCache in this area. NeuroNomad & Sublonde's Page Quote Link to comment
+Renegade Knight Posted July 18, 2003 Share Posted July 18, 2003 I've heard WaldenRun does this and has more finds than most of us wiht GPS's. My total non GPS count is about 2 including my first cache. Quote Link to comment
+NeuroNomad Posted July 18, 2003 Author Share Posted July 18, 2003 In some ways it is more rewarding, but in others it is a lot more flustrating. Stuff like Park n Rides are easy, but stuff in the woods is next to impossible. Pardon me Sir, but there is a Wild GeoCache in this area. NeuroNomad & Sublonde's Page Quote Link to comment
Mr. Big Posted July 18, 2003 Share Posted July 18, 2003 Yup! Only three to my name, but while I've been shopping for a GPSr, I bagged a few. One took me to a cool spot I'd been overlooking for 30 years or more. Quote Link to comment
+Bill D (wwh) Posted July 18, 2003 Share Posted July 18, 2003 I found my first six caches before I bought a GPSr. But after I'd bought one, during a week when I'd accidentally left it at a friend's house I tried to do two and failed to find either of them. WaldenRun's stats are staggering! Bill ------------------------------- "Ah, take the Cache and let the Credit go..." The Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam, trans. Edward Fitzgerald Quote Link to comment
+NeuroNomad Posted July 18, 2003 Author Share Posted July 18, 2003 I found no less than 5 caches last week while I was without my GPSr. But I can't wait to get it back tonight because there are a lot of caches that I could be getting during my lunch hour (I work in Nashville) that I doubt I could go for without the GPSr. Pardon me Sir, but there is a Wild GeoCache in this area. NeuroNomad & Sublonde's Page Quote Link to comment
+Web-ling Posted July 18, 2003 Share Posted July 18, 2003 I prefer hunting GPSr-less. I've done about 2/3 of my finds that way. I generally use maps and aerial photos from LostOutdoors.com and a couple of other sources. I typically use the GPSr on most multi-caches and caches in heavily forested areas where the aerial photo doesn't show many clearly identifiable landmarks. I'm at approximately 470 GPSr-less finds on non-locationless caches. Quote Link to comment
+NeuroNomad Posted July 18, 2003 Author Share Posted July 18, 2003 Haven't heard of that site, checking it out now. I use Terra Server and Topozone a lot. I have one cache that I am not getting close to because I get four different locations showing up when I go to Yahoo, Mapquest, Topo and Terra Server. quote:Originally posted by Web-ling:I prefer hunting GPSr-less. I've done about 2/3 of my finds that way. I generally use maps and aerial photos from LostOutdoors.com and a couple of other sources. I typically use the GPSr on most multi-caches and caches in heavily forested areas where the aerial photo doesn't show many clearly identifiable landmarks. I'm at approximately 470 GPSr-less finds on non-locationless caches. http://www.web-ling.com http://www.ntxga.org Pardon me Sir, but there is a Wild GeoCache in this area. NeuroNomad & Sublonde's Page Quote Link to comment
+WaldenRun Posted July 18, 2003 Share Posted July 18, 2003 To be fair, I have gone on cache hunts with GPS carrying cachers, so I can't characterize all my finds as GPSless. I would have to say that my average find time is less when I go by myself. I prepare better, and get to the cache site much more quickly. Then I have the patience for a correct search. Multi's are the most satisfying to do without GPS. I know because local cachers have caused me to do 117(!) of them. -WR "Besides physical caches, we have VIRTUal and VIRTUeless." Quote Link to comment
+SearchRescueDog Posted July 18, 2003 Share Posted July 18, 2003 I dont use the gps until I think I am right on top of an area. I find that using the GPS there is the habit of looking down instead of looking around. I navigate mostly by terrain orientation and map. For me the whole reason to be out there is to see the landscape not my GPS. Quote Link to comment
+NeuroNomad Posted July 19, 2003 Author Share Posted July 19, 2003 Yeap, I know that feeling. I hardly ever get lost, and have a good sense of direction, the funny thing is the last time I really got lost was during a cache hunt were I depended too much on the GPSr and then got into tree cover and got turned around and could not get my signal back until my team was about a mile off course. quote:Originally posted by SearchRescueDog:I dont use the gps until I think I am right on top of an area. I find that using the GPS there is the habit of looking down instead of looking around. I navigate mostly by terrain orientation and map. For me the whole reason to be out there is to see the landscape not my GPS. --------------------------------------------------------- Pardon me Sir, but there is a Wild GeoCache in this area. NeuroNomad & Sublonde's Page Quote Link to comment
Kanto Posted July 19, 2003 Share Posted July 19, 2003 Hello, I've had some fortune, some skill, and some help (in the last two) in finding my first three Traditional Caches (one of those multi/traditional, and two of them at night) using clues and maps and some cleverness in devising other ways of getting to the cache...all without GPS. I have a long way to go before 470 like Web-ling, but with no GPS, it is far more satisfying, I think if I were to use GPS, I would feel like I was cheating to some degree. ______________________________________________ Kanto NOTE: See my profile for updated Travel Bug info for Ontario, Canada. [This message was edited by Kanto on July 19, 2003 at 11:17 PM.] Quote Link to comment
+carleenp Posted July 19, 2003 Share Posted July 19, 2003 I meant to mention Web-ling in this thread, but I see he saw it first! quote: I think if I were to use GPS, I would feel like I was cheating to some degree. GPS isn't cheating, most of us use one and the site is aimed at that. With that said, finding without a GPS is certainly possible and even impressive at times. And as you have started to see, can also be fun! As for me, I'll stick with GPS, but I do think I need to learn orienteering. Seems like it could be useful knowledge! Quote Link to comment
+canadazuuk Posted July 20, 2003 Share Posted July 20, 2003 quote:Originally posted by Kanto: I think if I were to use GPS, I would feel like I was cheating to some degree. You don't say? Quote Link to comment
+NeuroNomad Posted July 20, 2003 Author Share Posted July 20, 2003 See I don't even use the Hide-N-Seek feature of GeoCaching.com. I just let the cache locations come to me in a dream, ha ha. Just Kidding... I wish it worked that way. In local news, GeoCacher NeuroNomad has proven his Remote Viewing ablilities to the world. ha ha. --------------------------------------------------------- Pardon me Sir, but there is a Wild GeoCache in this area. NeuroNomad & Sublonde's Page Quote Link to comment
Kanto Posted July 20, 2003 Share Posted July 20, 2003 I didn't intend to accuse anyone of cheating, it is just the way I see it for me. I am not about to judge other people's parameters...and I will eventually learn how to use GPS, because it could no doubt be very useful in other contexts. __________ Kanto, Anti-GPS (just kidding ) Quote Link to comment
+fly46 Posted July 20, 2003 Share Posted July 20, 2003 On most of them, if you read the clues you don't need the GPS... but then when there are multi caches or something, you totally need a gps.. There's also quite a few virtuals near athens, ga (uga campus - search 30605 zip) that you totally don't need a gps for... I have friends on the campus and I asked one if he recognized the tree by description (there are like six that are all trees) and he could tell me exactly where they were... ~fly46, GeoCacher who doesn't own a GPS Quote Link to comment
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