+Icenians Posted June 30, 2003 Share Posted June 30, 2003 Nice to see the advances the GAGB is making. The guidelines to get a cache on HCC land means you can know place a cache on any off the footpaths so long as you get permission from the landowner. And if you ask the land manager at any of their countryside sites you can place a cache there as well. Big step forward then. We can place caches so long as we get permission. I'm so glad that these adavances are being made in the game. Quote Link to comment
The Land Ranger Posted July 1, 2003 Share Posted July 1, 2003 Is it just me or is this guy being a "dick" ? Icenians, tell us what was the last thing you did to benifit the caching comunity as a whole ? when you can say that you have done something you might have some grounds to criticise Untill then why not be a nice person. Quote Link to comment
+Chris n Maria Posted July 1, 2003 Share Posted July 1, 2003 quote:Originally posted by The Land Ranger:Is it just me or is this guy being a "dick" ? Icenians, tell us what was the last thing you did to benifit the caching comunity as a whole ? when you can say that you have done something you might have some grounds to criticise Untill then why not be a nice person. Of course you could set an example yourself - nice people generally don't call each other Dicks If only life had an undo button.... London & UK Geocaching Resources: http://www.sheps.clara.net Quote Link to comment
+Icenians Posted July 1, 2003 Author Share Posted July 1, 2003 quote:Originally posted by The Land Ranger:Is it just me or is this guy being a "dick" ? Icenians, tell us what was the last thing you did to benifit the caching comunity as a whole ? Highlighted some issues with the GAGB, placed a number of caches in an area that had none. quote:when you can say that you have done something you might have some grounds to criticise Untill then why not be a nice person. 0 placed, 0 found, 2 posts. Nuff said Quote Link to comment
+Tim & June Posted July 1, 2003 Share Posted July 1, 2003 Just to clarify the situation because as usual the Iceanians seem to be deliberately fuelling controversy. The guideline to which they are referring actually says, "After placing a cache on countryside sites, the site manager must be informed to ensure that the cache does not compromise the management of the site". Later in that thread the reason behind this is explained as follows. "The reasoning behind the requirement to contact them was given to us by way of example. On HCC land there are two patches of a wild flower called a red-something-or-other, I think they said these are the only 2 patches in the whole of the UK. I wouldn't know the difference between the "red-something-or-other" and a daisy (other than the colour of course) and I'm sure most cachers are the same. If an unknowledgeable cacher like me were to put a cache amongst, or close to, one of these small patches, the result would be a disaster". So no need to ask permission first, thanks to the negotiations (which were so nearly ruined by the behaviour of some) between the GAGB & HCC permission has been granted they are just asking as a courtesy that you let them know where the cache is. Incidentally if you do want to approach the wardens first they might be only to willing to help you select a good spot. For those of you who have not seen them the draft copy of the HCC guidelines can be found on the forums on www.gagb.org.uk . June Quote Link to comment
+Kouros Posted July 1, 2003 Share Posted July 1, 2003 quote:Originally posted by Icenians:The guidelines to get a cache on HCC land means you can know place a cache on any off the footpaths so long as you get permission from the landowner. And if you ask the land manager at any of their countryside sites you can place a cache there as well. Doesn't this go back to the earlier discussions about what constitues HCC land? Seems to me that these new guidelines clarify this debate. Caches that are on HCC land are fine, but on other rights of way, permission would be needed from the landowner. So although HCC has given permission for caches on *their* land - which is a step forward, regardless of your sarcastic comment - we do still need to gain permission for caches which are not on their land. Of course, it makes sense that HCC would want to make sure that Geocaching does not compromise the management of their site, and have therefore introduced the guideline that T&J talk of. Unless I've missed an important point, of course. Please, Icenians, if I have, could you elaborate further? ------ An it harm none, do what ye will Quote Link to comment
+stu_and_sarah Posted July 1, 2003 Share Posted July 1, 2003 It looks to me (Stu) like they (HCC) are saying: "We are supportive of caching, and if you want to place a cache, come and talk to us, we'll help you find a good spot. You will not be turned down for no good reason, so don't be shy in caching in Hampshire" This means that people who would normally be put off placing a cache because they're wary about asking permission, and explaining all about geocaching etc. can be confident that an approach to HCC will be met with a knowledgable and positive reply. To my mind, it is that which has been achieved by GAGB and HCC in their talks. What would you prefer, approaching a land-owner who has never heard of geocaching and is hostile to the idea before you've fully explained it, or an organisation like HCC who have made positive noises about it? It also means that if you're approaching the owner of private land in Hampshire, you can refer the land owner to HCC as an example of an organisation which allows caching. Well done GAGB, and thanks to HCC. Quote Link to comment
Ben Pid Posted July 1, 2003 Share Posted July 1, 2003 Any thread that begins this way I would normally expect to break into a flame war or words. Nice to see its turned constructive! I think this means we are learning to comabt Trolls and flame throwers Agree we need to move this forward somewhat. Having the ability to plant caches with permission would make things a whole lot easier in the long run and the guidelines state alot of valid and reasonable points. Pid -------------------------------------------------------- www.buckscaching.co.uk Quote Link to comment
+The Hungry Caterpillars Posted July 1, 2003 Share Posted July 1, 2003 Glad to see that GAGB and HCC have provided sensible guidelines that hopefully will be adopted by other councils and landowners.Abig thanks to HCC for continuing to work with GAGB in the face of all the flak that was produced.I am not too sure what you are trying to say ICENIANS but thanks for starting this thread as it has brought the good work that GAGB has done to the notice of a wider audience. Quote Link to comment
+Chris n Maria Posted July 1, 2003 Share Posted July 1, 2003 Not sure if everyone has seen this page on the Hants CC site - marvelous. Well done and thanks to all involved in working with HCC. Can someone explain why Hants is short for Hampshire Chris If only life had an undo button.... London & UK Geocaching Resources: http://www.sheps.clara.net [This message was edited by Chris n Maria on July 01, 2003 at 01:32 PM.] Quote Link to comment
+Icenians Posted July 1, 2003 Author Share Posted July 1, 2003 I have to apologies for this thread and my dig at the guidelines above. This was written last night after a few too many. Please take the remark as an example of someone saying the wrong thing while under the influence. My humble apologies once again. Isn't there an embarressed icon? Quote Link to comment
+Chris n Maria Posted July 1, 2003 Share Posted July 1, 2003 quote:Originally posted by Icenians:Isn't there an embarressed icon? Here you go: If only life had an undo button.... London & UK Geocaching Resources: http://www.sheps.clara.net Quote Link to comment
+Kouros Posted July 1, 2003 Share Posted July 1, 2003 quote:Originally posted by Icenians:I have to apologies for this thread and my dig at the guidelines above. This was written last night after a few too many. I wouldn't sweat it too much if I were you, Icenians - heck, I know I've said things I regret while being stone cold sober. Still, it's nice that this thread gave everyone the opportunity to see the good progress that GAGB has made. ------ An it harm none, do what ye will Quote Link to comment
adrianjohn Posted July 1, 2003 Share Posted July 1, 2003 Try this one! Red Face Have boots and GPSr, will cache for fun! Quote Link to comment
+Bill D (wwh) Posted July 1, 2003 Share Posted July 1, 2003 quote: Chris n Maria wrote: Can someone explain why Hants is short for Hampshire In Old English the name was Hantescire, so I imagine it comes from that. Bill ------------------------------- "Ah, take the Cache and let the Credit go..." The Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam, trans. Edward Fitzgerald Quote Link to comment
+THE BRAMBLERS Posted July 1, 2003 Share Posted July 1, 2003 Hi all We haven't quite finished the geocaching pages on HCC yet. We were hoping to get them finalised before anyone saw them, but IT Services have put them up in error. We have worked hard on this and really wanted it to be at it's best when you saw it. David and Debbie Quote Link to comment
+Chris n Maria Posted July 1, 2003 Share Posted July 1, 2003 Sorry didn't know they wern't finished yet. Well done anyway - they look triffic so far. Chris If only life had an undo button.... London & UK Geocaching Resources: http://www.sheps.clara.net Quote Link to comment
+Bill D (wwh) Posted July 1, 2003 Share Posted July 1, 2003 quote: The Bramblers wrote: We haven't quite finished the geocaching pages on HCC yet. We were hoping to get them finalised before anyone saw them, but IT Services have put them up in error. We have worked hard on this and really wanted it to be at it's best when you saw it. Don't worry about it - they look pretty good already! Bill ------------------------------- "Ah, take the Cache and let the Credit go..." The Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam, trans. Edward Fitzgerald Quote Link to comment
Wilting Posted July 1, 2003 Share Posted July 1, 2003 quote:Originally posted by The Land Ranger:Is it just me or is this guy being a "****" ? Icenians, tell us what was the last thing you did to benifit the caching comunity as a whole ? when you can say that you have done something you might have some grounds to criticise Untill then why not be a nice person. Now this 'gentleman' is the same experienced geocacher that was criticising MCL in another thread for his poor spelling. Again people, why rise to the bait? Joined Jun 29 2003 Two posts since then 0 Caches found 0 Caches places Now - how do you spell TROLL???? Oh yes, 'The Land Ranger' Quote Link to comment
Moss Trooper Posted July 1, 2003 Share Posted July 1, 2003 Easy does it peeps.. Don't start flaming.. How do yer tell a moderator.. he's the one who locks threads likley to erupt.. Moss the Boss... Sorta Quote Link to comment
+The Hungry Caterpillars Posted July 2, 2003 Share Posted July 2, 2003 Hi Moss Trooper,anybody who can control Peewits to guard their caches can do anything.We stand in awe of your might and influence and hope to enter your august presence again at some later date. Quote Link to comment
+John Stead Posted July 2, 2003 Share Posted July 2, 2003 I was amazed to read that the HCC site is unfinished. Bramblers have done a great job - I'm thinking of moving south (from oop north in Lancs) to enjoy all HCC is doing. Good luck on 19th. Member Geocaching Association of GB Quote Link to comment
+The Northumbrian Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 quote:Originally posted by The Land Ranger:Is it just me or is this guy being a "dick" ? . I think he's Adicthead to geocaching. I think he likes to see his name on screen. I remember he logged a cache of mine called Winters gibbet and said that people were using the wood for a toilet. when I went to look , All I found was fir tree cones, THOUSANDS OF THEM. But then there are people who dont know their * from their elbow, it's getting to the point now that I pay no attention to what he says, he's just out to get a jibe at GAGB and cause a flameup, Well we can rise above that sort of thing, and just reply the pleasant way I have. Nige The Northumbrian is a member of The Geocaching Association of Great Britain Quote Link to comment
+The Northumbrian Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 Now I have to agree with the Icenian , as I too had a drink before I wrote What I did and I noticed my spelling was wrong again, it has 2 d's in addicthead Nige The Northumbrian is a member of The Geocaching Association of Great Britain Quote Link to comment
+John Stead Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 I think you mean 3 d's Nige - now whose being a pedant!? Member Geocaching Association of GB Quote Link to comment
+John Stead Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 And I can't punctuate either! Member Geocaching Association of GB Quote Link to comment
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