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Thanks for the help. I'll be going through Scandinavia and I thought it would be cool to know exactly when I crossed the circle. I guess I'll use the Wikipedia figure.

All very interesting by can we drag this back on topic. I already checked Wikipedia so I was aware of the data there but I also checked other sites and each of them gave a slightly different latitude. I know that the latitude varies continually which is why I wanted to know where the arctic circle starts today. Does anyone actually know?

I'm going north soon and hope to do some caching in the Arctic. I've been trying to find out the current exact latitude of the Arctic circle but every site I've looked at has a slightly different value. It would be nice to know exactly when I cross it. Any ideas?

Hark, hark! Is that an agenda I espy flying past? As Hazel said, it's only a list of hidden boxes for god's sake. So we had no lists for a couple of days, so what?! What a great opportunity for getting a life and doing something important. After all something significant was happening today and although we're not allowed to mention it here I'm sure lots of people were usefully engaged in something which didn't rely on having 365/24/7 access to an up to date list of tupperware hidden in various woodlands. If nothing else, why not just go for a walk?

So is that waht Mrs Blorenge looks like?

By now my own thoughts are well known, if less than popular. My take would be that if you have a legal right to be on a footpath then it is unreasonable to expect you to forego that right. However, the advice from the farning community seems to be that you should avoid fields with "iffy" looking inhabitants and find another route. Fair enough, but what are the farmers' thoughts if I was discovered walking across land which didn't have a public right of way. Would it be reasonable for me to use the argument that the footpath was unpassable so I was finding an alternative? You will notice that there are no smileys in this question, it is a genuinely serious attempt to find out.

Why not do a PQ of the area and filter on cache size? You could then read the cache pages of those selected and decide which take your fancy. The logs should provide some feedback too. This is supposedly one of the benefits of Premium Membership.

Just because I'm not a farmer please do not get condescending with me and make facile comments about my urban status (you don't know what type of environment I live in so please don't make assumptions). The point I was trying to make, and which has been glossed over by our colleagues with farming connections, is that a landowner has a duty of care to people who have legal access to his/her land in exactly the same way that any other business does to people who enter their business premises. It may be inconvenient but it exists. Yes, the countryside has its hazards as do towns and cities, but that is no excuse to ignore potentially dangerous situations. I will stress again that this poor woman was doing nothing wrong. If the landowner was aware that his herd of cattle was likely to be spooked under such circumstances,and our "experts" in this thread seem to be saying as much, then surely it is not beyond the bounds of reasonableness to take steps to minimise that risk. Knowing that this tract of land is legally,and presumably regularly, used by dog walkers then perhaps the cows and their calves should be moved to somewhere to which the general public do not have access. I concede this could be inconvenient but many things in other businesses are expensive and inconvenient. The alternative of course is to ban the public from having access to farm land as the landowner sees fit. Would we want this?

Are you sure that's the recommended fashion whilst crossing a field of cows? What? Keeping a dog under close control? Well, yes I would have thought you should do that whenever there is stock about. You are joking, right? When did the farmer deliberately allow the cows to harm the poor woman? No I'm not joking, what I was trying to say is that as a householder I have a duty of care to any visitors (and that included non-invited ones such as burglars ). The farmer allowed his cattle onto the public right of way crossing his land and therefore had a duty of care to members of the public legally using that right of way. Quite obviously he didn't encourage the cattle to attack the poor woman be he surely must have known they had a propensity to do so. Dunno what that means, I'm just an ignorant Joe.

It's interesting that these very sad cases almost invariably involve somebody walking their legally owned pet in a recommended fasion (i.e. under close control) while undertaking a perfectly legal activity in a legally accessible location. While there is, quite rightly, plenty of legal restraint around owning potentially dangerous dogs, and for that matter dangerous machinery i.e. cars, maybe there is a case for re-examining the law pertaining to where and how farmers manage their stock on their land but where the public have a right of access. As a householder I'm pretty sure I could get into trouble if I deliberately allowed a known hazard to cause harm to a visitor.

Gawd knows what's causing this problem but I've found a way round it. When I get this SQL error I re-boot my router and get a new IP address. I can then get into the forum straight away. Hardly elegant but at least it works.

Who said "sarcasm is the lowest form of wit"? Hardly appropriate for a representative of a supposedly mature company. Mind you, the language on that site (Opencaching) looks like it was cooked up at a middle managers' brainstorming weekend.

Don't ask me, I haven't a clue! It's not my thread.

Funkybro, I admire your optimism and I think it would be really good if you were able to develop such a site. As you will have noticed, if you dare to suggest that Groundspeak ISN'T the be all and end all TPTB will start throwing buckets of cold water on your ideas. As somone once said "Nil Carborundum Illegitemi" Keep dreaming and better still, actually try and do something. I remember way back when, Microsoft IE was te only browser around until Netscape and then Firefox dared to suggest they could do better - and blow me , they did! That being said, I'm glad TPTB are allowing the idea to be discussed here. Thanks.

Or they might say "As your cache is so close to GCxxxxx, your best bet is to complete that cache and you will then know exactly where the problem container is."

Fascinating.

A definite sign of the deterioration of the sport since it moved from the realm of a few enthusiasts to the "mainstream".

Probably the best one for you in the UK is GC591B which has LOTS of zeros in it. FOr obvious reasons it's a virtual. The reason there are so few in Greenwich is that the Royal Parks Authority have banned caches and have required them to be removed. Also remember that the meridian line as marked on the ground is based on the OSGB datum, not WGS84 and the two "lines" are therefore offset by about 100 metres (which is why if you stand astride the meridian line at the Royal Greenwich Observatory with your GPS it will NOT show E/W00 00.000

Same here. If it's any help, I shut down Firefox then opened it again. I was then able to get into the forums as normal.

Have you tried e-mailing Groundspeak, the company that owns geocaaching?

Enjoy your 60CSX Enjoy copious quantities of beer. Sorted

I think you may be misunderstanding the original request. My interpretation is that the OP wants to be able to write 75 (or whatever) INDIVIDUAL logs in one convenient place and then upload each one to the relevant cache page rather than manually navigating to each cache page in turn. It sounds an eminently good idea for those people who manage to find lots of caches.

Did someone say April 2003?

Am I unique in enjoying any pastime which takes me to interesting places and/or provides a bit of a challenge? I'm really not bothered about logging too much nor do I see any real distinction between Locationless Caches/Waymarks. Neither do I see any problem about discussing the replacement for Locationless caches wherever they've been moved to. I'm just happy to be here

It's GOT to be a Pocket PC, not a Palm as Memory Map only runs on these.