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"Waymarking tours (WayTours) are short, guided tours of towns. These are for any visitors to a town who want an "insider's look" of where to go, what to see, and what to do.
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WayTours should have a set of starting coordinates, and then guide the visitor (either with directions or other coordinates) to a few essential places in the town. There should be about five stops, and each place should be something that gives the town part of its identity. The idea is to show the visitor the best, most fun, and most interesting sites and areas a town has to offer.

Please note, these need to be set up for self-guided tours, so that a Waymarker can do it with nothing but their GPSr and the Waymark page. Guided tours should be posted in the "Geocaching Tour Guides" category.

Instructions for Posting a Waymark Tours (WayTours) Waymark:
You must post a set of starting coordinates and a picture taken at at least one of the stops. Also, you must include coordinates or explicit directions to the rest of the stops on the tour. Remember, the people taking your tour don't know the area as well as you do!"
 
I was thinking that if it was a Waymarking tour, all the stops would be waymarks. But the description does not say that, and a quick look at some of the posted WayTours shows some that have all stops that are waymarks, and others that aren't.
 
I there someone here that is a reviewer for this category that could enlighten me? Is this so we can add a place that doesn't have a category to our Waymarking, or should all stops be waymarks? (If they aren't waymarks, then it's just a self-guided tour.)
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Lumbricus is the only active officer of the group, so you can ask him directly.

 

I published in this category, and i put waymarks in the stop coordinates variable and the reason is easy, i took an exemple of a waymark approved and there is waymarks in the variable, if i found location names with coordinates, i would write location names with coordinates

 

So i think you can write either waymarks or location names with coordinates in the stop coordinates variable.

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I've done a few of these but simply assumed that all stops were to be Waymarks. Guess I didn't read the requirements carefully enough. My assumption was that Waymarking tours (WayTours) were intended to be tours of Waymarked spots in the town in question. It never once occurred to me that it would be otherwise. Silly me.

As a result, I suppose, I went way overboard on my first (oops - it was actually my second one) Waytour and included 27+ stops. The upside, though, was that it became a Featured Waymark!

I agree with Alfouine, though. It looks like they all don't have to be Waymarks, so if you're planning on doing one, it seems you're free to add whatever will enhance the Waymark.

Keith

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originally, I was thinking it was like a Lucky 7, just no requirement to be within the distance and they do not have to be from different categories. Then, I noticed that, unlike Lucky 7, the waymarks do not have to be yours, and even that there was no requirement for them to be waymarks.

I am looking at making 2 or 3 WayTours, all on different themes around the OKC area. (Theme, like one could be, but isn't, Smithsonian Sculptures - an idea for Max and 99.)

 

And B-K, that is a really nice waymark!

55 minutes ago, BK-Hunters said:

 it was actually my second one) Waytour and included 27+ stops.

 

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Why Thank You! It must have taken about 4 hours to put that one together.

Keith

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I'm just going back thru the General Waymarking Discussions (while on COVID house arrest) and decided that I should do an update on this thread.

 

Sine 2018, I have posted 2 Way Tours. I find it an interesting category. The stops don't have to be waymarks, but if they are, they need not be yours. When doing them under a theme, they can be quite an exercise in research, and then getting pictures and doing a good write-up. Most people can be very proud of their accomplishment when posting one of these.

 

My waymarks are:  WMZRW7 and WM11G9K

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2 minutes ago, vulture1957 said:

I'm just going back thru the General Waymarking Discussions (while on COVID house arrest) and decided that I should do an update on this thread.

 

Sine 2018, I have posted 2 Way Tours. I find it an interesting category. The stops don't have to be waymarks, but if they are, they need not be yours. When doing them under a theme, they can be quite an exercise in research, and then getting pictures and doing a good write-up. Most people can be very proud of their accomplishment when posting one of these.

 

My waymarks are:  WMZRW7 and WM11G9K

Your waytours are great! The Brewstour is genius! I don't know HTML so my last waytour was declined.

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1 minute ago, Max and 99 said:

Your waytours are great! The Brewstour is genius! I don't know HTML so my last waytour was declined.

Thanks.  and I can help if you want to re-do your submission.

 

 

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Just now, vulture1957 said:

I can help

 

My husband can help too, but I like doing the waymarks myself. But thank you! I appreciate the offer.

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On 3/28/2020 at 1:00 PM, Max and 99 said:

My husband can help too, but I like doing the waymarks myself. But thank you! I appreciate the offer.

I think the only HTML you need is the <br> attribute to put a break (carriage return) in the listing to get each stop on it's own line.

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2 minutes ago, vulture1957 said:

I think the only HTML you need is the <br> attribute to put a break (carriage return) in the listing to get each stop on it's own line.

That's helpful! Thank you.

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I'm glad this topic popped up.  I've been going through old pictures to see what waymarks I have missed or there are new categories for.  In fifteen years, you can't imagine the number of waymarks I am finding that I can post.  Anyway, I think I have an interesting Waytour to publish since this topic is now en vogue.  It looks like it is going to be this evening's project.  
Any bets on the over/under on the number of times I'm going to hafta resubmit?  Friendly wager, of course.  Man, I wish I had better HTML skills! 

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3 hours ago, iconions said:

I'm glad this topic popped up.  I've been going through old pictures to see what waymarks I have missed or there are new categories for.  In fifteen years, you can't imagine the number of waymarks I am finding that I can post.  Anyway, I think I have an interesting Waytour to publish since this topic is now en vogue.  It looks like it is going to be this evening's project.  
Any bets on the over/under on the number of times I'm going to hafta resubmit?  Friendly wager, of course.  Man, I wish I had better HTML skills! 

 

I only use a few HTML tags for mine. I have a script that I "stole" from another page, changed the colors and border width, now I copy/paste to all my new waymarks.

 

Then, while working in that script, I'll use <br> (Break), <p> (paragraph or break with extra return), and the <blockquote> </blockquote> for plaque wording. I guess I could use Bold and Italic for stuff, but I haven't seen a real need yet.

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1 hour ago, vulture1957 said:

 

I only use a few HTML tags for mine. I have a script that I "stole" from another page, changed the colors and border width, now I copy/paste to all my new waymarks.

 

Then, while working in that script, I'll use <br> (Break), <p> (paragraph or break with extra return), and the <blockquote> </blockquote> for plaque wording. I guess I could use Bold and Italic for stuff, but I haven't seen a real need yet.

Yea, I'm stealing / borrowing the base code.  I figure the person/s I'm stealing from will take it as a compliment, right Keith????  Some of it, though, I'm doing from trial and error.  I'm an software support person, darn it - we make fun of the people who actually code, not actually get our hands dirty with the stuff!!!  :)

I'm with you, though, vulture1957, I have a normal blockquote I do with another set of HTML for plaques.  I have been known to actual work a table to get a plaque to look just right.  This one, though, I just want it to look RIGHT... :)

  

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1 hour ago, vulture1957 said:

 

I only use a few HTML tags for mine. I have a script that I "stole" from another page, changed the colors and border width, now I copy/paste to all my new waymarks.

 

Then, while working in that script, I'll use <br> (Break), <p> (paragraph or break with extra return), and the <blockquote> </blockquote> for plaque wording. I guess I could use Bold and Italic for stuff, but I haven't seen a real need yet.

BTW... I REALLY like the way your OKC breweries waytour turned out - I'm using it as a base template to make sure that I get said what I need to get said, speaking of stealing. 

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23 minutes ago, iconions said:

BTW... I REALLY like the way your OKC breweries waytour turned out - I'm using it as a base template to make sure that I get said what I need to get said, speaking of stealing. 

 

Thanks! And use what you want. No sense in re-inventing the wheel.Let me know the Waymark Code so I can see it, when you have gotten it pretty much set.

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14 minutes ago, vulture1957 said:

 

Thanks! And use what you want. No sense in re-inventing the wheel.Let me know the Waymark Code so I can see it, when you have gotten it pretty much set.

I thought of your brew waytour tonight when I purchased my ticket for the Oklahoma craft beer summit. 

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20 minutes ago, vulture1957 said:

 

Thanks! And use what you want. No sense in re-inventing the wheel.Let me know the Waymark Code so I can see it, when you have gotten it pretty much set.

I wish I still drink - I may need a beer or six after beating on this.  Stupid migraines!  Thanks for the support on this - yea, it isn't going to be a one line commercial waymark for sure...
I'm already two hours in and only 1 waymark posted  - Sheesh!

 

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2 hours ago, iconions said:

I wish I still drink - I may need a beer or six after beating on this.  Stupid migraines!  Thanks for the support on this - yea, it isn't going to be a one line commercial waymark for sure...
I'm already two hours in and only 1 waymark posted  - Sheesh!

 

Five Hours on one waymark...  I guess I'm not trying for number this evening!

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11 hours ago, iconions said:

Five Hours on one waymark...  I guess I'm not trying for number this evening!

 

how many waymarks on the tour?

 

OK, I see it's already published. I thought you spent 5 hours on just the first waymark of the first stop! As there are 35 waymarks on this tour, that would be a looooong time making waymarks!

 

I think I'll have to get competent with the <IMG> stuff nd get some pictures in my waymarks. It would add to my way tour.

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saw the published wy tour

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2 hours ago, vulture1957 said:

 

how many waymarks on the tour?

 

OK, I see it's already published. I thought you spent 5 hours on just the first waymark of the first stop! As there are 35 waymarks on this tour, that would be a looooong time making waymarks!

 

I think I'll have to get competent with the <IMG> stuff nd get some pictures in my waymarks. It would add to my way tour.

Six waymark Stops on the actual tour, but each stop has a minimum of 3 waymark categories on the actual site and as many as eight.  I wanted to make sure that if someone took the time to do the waytour, they at least had the chance to get all of the visits!  It took five hours total on the complete writeup - just an hour to writeup the first stop.  You have no idea how many revisions I went through to get it to look like that!  I do know that I'm glad I had your template for the background as it saved me many hours of reading and trying to figure it out!  Hence the big thank you to you, Barb, and Keith at the bottom of the waymark for the html coding help.
 

the pictures were actually really the easy part, I was able to look that up on the intrawebs and test.  They came out great.  Now, making the actual Waytour kinda sorta look like the brochure I had in my head, that was tough part!.  

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32 minutes ago, iconions said:

Six waymark Stops on the actual tour, but each stop has a minimum of 3 waymark categories on the actual site and as many as eight.  I wanted to make sure that if someone took the time to do the waytour, they at least had the chance to get all of the visits!  It took five hours total on the complete writeup - just an hour to writeup the first stop.  You have no idea how many revisions I went through to get it to look like that!  I do know that I'm glad I had your template for the background as it saved me many hours of reading and trying to figure it out!  Hence the big thank you to you, Barb, and Keith at the bottom of the waymark for the html coding help.
 

the pictures were actually really the easy part, I was able to look that up on the intrawebs and test.  They came out great.  Now, making the actual Waytour kinda sorta look like the brochure I had in my head, that was tough part!.  

 

Well, I think the time was well spent. It looks very good. And the history included is very interesting. I grew up in NE Illinois, and Grant always got overshadowed in history lessons by Lincoln. So I am glad that you took the time to do this.

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Your Waytours are pretty impressive, Lee - BUT - and I'm not trying to be critical here, just helpful - the beer tour could be much cleaner if you were to do this:

Starting with the first stop:

We start at Stonecloud Brewing, 1012 NW 1st St just north of Reno on Classen, Look for the Sunshine Cleaners neon sign (Waymark Code: WMWFXX) over the building. Parking on the west side and along the streets.<p>

 

Do this instead:

We start at <a target="_blank" HREF="https://stonecloudbrewing.com" title="Open in new tab" style="text-decoration:none">Stonecloud Brewing</a>, 1012 NW 1st St just north of Reno on Classen, Look for the Sunshine Cleaners neon sign (Waymark Code: WMWFXX) over the building. Parking on the west side and along the streets.<br><br>

 

Etc, etc, for each stop.

(I now use the <br><br> to avoid the site's [or the browser's, not sure which] having to enter all the </p>s at the end. Not sure much is gained, because each <br> is changed to the more XML compatible <br />.)

Then you can eliminate the section below with the URLs.

By itself, the code is:

<a target="_blank" HREF="URL" title="Open in new tab" style="text-decoration:none">NAME</a>

 

Everyone else is welcome to use this simple snippet, too. It's not as though I came up with it. If anyone else wants a bit of help, just ask.

Oh, and you're welcome for that code you "stole", Lee. ;)  Happy to help! :)

Keith

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3 hours ago, ScroogieII said:

Your Waytours are pretty impressive, Lee - BUT - and I'm not trying to be critical here, just helpful - the beer tour could be much cleaner if you were to do this:

Starting with the first stop:

We start at Stonecloud Brewing, 1012 NW 1st St just north of Reno on Classen, Look for the Sunshine Cleaners neon sign (Waymark Code: WMWFXX) over the building. Parking on the west side and along the streets.<p>

 

Do this instead:

We start at <a target="_blank" HREF="https://stonecloudbrewing.com" title="Open in new tab" style="text-decoration:none">Stonecloud Brewing</a>, 1012 NW 1st St just north of Reno on Classen, Look for the Sunshine Cleaners neon sign (Waymark Code: WMWFXX) over the building. Parking on the west side and along the streets.<br><br>

 

Keith

 

OK, I finally got that done, and checked out to make sure the links worked. I left a little of the last part on there to have the waymark codes for the breweries (that first code on Stonecloud is for the sign, not the brewery.) I think it would be too confusing to put the codes in the write-up. Maybe not. I can check it out again later, and I may put them in. I'm still thinking about putting pictures in the long description.

 

Thanks for the help.

 

Lee

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7 minutes ago, vulture1957 said:

 

OK, I finally got that done, and checked out to make sure the links worked. I left a little of the last part on there to have the waymark codes for the breweries (that first code on Stonecloud is for the sign, not the brewery.) I think it would be too confusing to put the codes in the write-up. Maybe not. I can check it out again later, and I may put them in. I'm still thinking about putting pictures in the long description.

 

Thanks for the help.

 

Lee

It looks really good - links work great.  :)
 

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4 minutes ago, iconions said:

It looks really good - links work great.  :)
 

 

some of them don't work as a secure link, so I had to change Https:// to Http://. Without using the http part, I kept getting a "We don't know that waymark" error, whatever that is about. I guess it was trying to look up the link on Waymarking.com.

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19 minutes ago, vulture1957 said:

I think it would be too confusing to put the codes in the write-up. Maybe not. I can check it out again later, and I may put them in. I'm still thinking about putting pictures in the long description.

 

Looking good, Lee!!

If we look at the first stop:

We start at <a target="_blank" HREF="https://stonecloudbrewing.com" title="Open in new tab" style="text-decoration:none;">Stonecloud Brewing</a>, 1012 NW 1st St just north of Reno on Classen, Look for the Sunshine Cleaners neon sign (Waymark Code: <a target="_blank" HREF="https://www.Waymarking.com/waymarks/wmWFXX_Sunshine_Cleaners_Oklahoma_City_OK" title="Open in new tab" style="text-decoration:none">WMWFXX</a>) over the building. Parking on the west side and along the streets. (I suggest the Novelty Theory, Barleywine). <p>

 

This, to me, makes for the cleanest Waymark, with no need on the part of the viewer to scroll down, copy a link then paste it on the "Home" page to check out the Wm.

Keith

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27 minutes ago, vulture1957 said:

I'm still thinking about putting pictures in the long description.

 

Gimme a shout if you want to do that, IE floating pics to the left or right, stuff like that. It's really easy, actually.

Keith

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38 minutes ago, ScroogieII said:

Then one could do something like this:

889238004_OKBeer.jpg.b5b2e3110efee6f88fad9e7a0330b609.jpg

 

Unfortunately, to keep the downtown ones from stacking up, we can't include the outliers.

The Map

Keith

Stonecloud needs an adjustment. 

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5 hours ago, vulture1957 said:

I'm still thinking about putting pictures in the long description.

 

For some suggestions check out This Waymark

 

The pic is one of yours so it represents the aspect ratio of most/all of your pix.

The background is supposed to represent foam on the top and beer on the bottom. The colours prolly need a bit of tweaking.  Cancel that for now - I was playing with it and the colors are busted for now.

Cancel that, too. I put a background pic on the test WM. It's just a suggestion - definitely needs tweaking.

 

Keith

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4 hours ago, Max and 99 said:

Stonecloud needs an adjustment.

 

In what way?

Oh, I think I see what you mean now. I had to move it and Prairie Artisan a touch because they were pretty much on top of each other. AND I just saw that there are 2 Stoneclouds. I can always remake the map.

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I deleted the first map rather than try to replace it. I always have trouble with images here.

It's hard to make a legible map which includes the outliers, so they're not on this one.

1396001787_OKBeer.thumb.jpg.9e1c25ee69b9ff7c6d04b439844f0821.jpg

 

The Map

 

This should explain the problem well enough.

 

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