+yanagi Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 (Most of the following text was written by E&Cplus3 in earlier mathtrades and just slightly changed, thank you Chuck!). Ok, here we go! Sign in this 12th International Mathtrade by sending your info to mathtrade10@web.de (this is not a mistake, I just want to use this email address, that I've generated before) I will need your: - Caching Name - Real Name - FULL Mailing Address (including Country!) - Email Address - if you don't want me to send your address to all participants, please mention this (up to now I had only sent out the addresses to the participants that are needed, but this took hours without having fun) I will then send you the Link to the Google spreadsheet in which you can submit your coins! If you don't get an email within 3 days just let me know. The trade will be divided into four phases: 1. Coin submission - entering your trade offers into the spreadsheet (ends January 2nd) 2. Regroup - reorganize your coin submissions to create groups (ends January 9th or earlier) 3. Want list submission - create your wish lists! (ends February 6th or earlier) 4. Trading! - trade list generated and emailed to you (starts February 8th if all goes well!) Please respect the following rules: 1. This is an international trade - only take part in it if you are willing to pay for a possible overseas shipment of your coins! Remember that in theory each coin that you trade away may have to be sent to a different destination, within or outside of your own country. 2. You can list both trackable and non-trackable coins. If nothing is mentioned in the Remarks column, the coin will be assumed to be trackable and unactivated. In all other cases the status of the coin needs to be specified in the Remarks column. Activated coins are only allowed if they will be offered up for adoption (with the exception of Lackey and Moun10bike coins, obviously ). 3. Participants may only submit one coin of any one edition (same coin with same finish/colour/etc) to trade. Duplicates are not allowed. 4. Please make sure you adhere to the deadlines shown above! Any edit after a deadline will be ignored! 5. Please try to keep your list to 50 coins or less! Keep an eye on this thread - I will use it to post additional information/clarifications whenever needed! Of course you can also use it to post any questions or remarks. A More Detailed Explanation: Q. What is a geocoin math trade? What makes it different from a 'normal' trade? A. In a ' normal' trade, person A gives coin X to person B and person B give coin Y to person A. Sometimes person A wants a coin that person B has, but has nothing that interests person B to give in return. In that case person A could go looking for a person C to arrange a trade to get a coin from person's B want list. In a math trade you don't have to hunt for a 'person C' -- the software will do this for you! The math trade software will find optimal 'trade chains', some of which may involve just the regular 2 coins, while other 'trade chains' that are part of the same math trade may involve 3, 4, 5 or even more coins. Q. I feel uncomfortable listing coin offers without knowing what I'll receive in return for them. Why would I do this? A. You will be the one to decide what you'll get in return. After everyone has listed their coin offers, you can go through the total list of offers and make a want list for every coin you have offered. If you are not interested in trading one of your coins for any of the listed offers, you will simply use an empty want list for it, so that your coin won't be traded at all. Q. What if someone offers a coin that I REALLY want? Is there a way that I can maybe offer 2 of my coins in exchange for this coveted coin? A. Yes, there is. After Phase 1 (entering coin offers), we will enter Phase 2 (regrouping). During this phase you have a chance to look closely at the coins that are being offered, and if there are coins you would really want to get, you could try and create a more interesting offer by grouping two or more of your coins into one offer. If you group coin X and Y together, then these will not be traded separately, but as one single unit, for which you can decide (during the want list submission phase) what you want to trade them for. (Detailed instructions for this regrouping will follow once we hit that phase (but don't worry, it's actually quite simple). Q. Two or more people have listed one specific coin that I like. But if I include both in my want lists for, say, two of my coins, I risk ending up with 2 copies of the same coin. Is there a way to prevent this? A. Yes, there is (a more verbose answer will follow at the appropriate time). Quote Link to comment
+longtomsilver Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 Mail sent Thanks Thomas Quote Link to comment
Team Red-one Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 Mail sent! Quote Link to comment
+derPathe Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 (edited) Em@il sent My project Biggest collection of Ernie's Geocoin's Project My Collection incl. Requests My Collection Edited December 1, 2015 by derPathe Quote Link to comment
+dance4heaven Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Mail sent! Ich bin dabei! Quote Link to comment
+drneal Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 mail sent ILYK ILYL Quote Link to comment
+imoutnabout Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Mail sent. ...well, sending momentarily... Quote Link to comment
+Losdelrio Team Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Email sent Quote Link to comment
+yanagi Posted December 1, 2015 Author Share Posted December 1, 2015 I've sent an invitation to the Google spreadsheet to everybody, who signed in so far. Please let me know if you didn't get a mail. Up to now we have 23 participants from 6 different countries Quote Link to comment
+bauchschus Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Email gesendet Quote Link to comment
+Murazor Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Registration data sent. Quote Link to comment
+boiler-todd Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Info sent. Will give this a try. Quote Link to comment
+yanagi Posted December 4, 2015 Author Share Posted December 4, 2015 I've sent an invitation to all who registered up to now. We have 40 participants from 7 different countries so far: USA, Spain, Australia, Netherlands, Canada, Poland and Germany Quote Link to comment
+Tante Tilly Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 Email has been send ... Quote Link to comment
+nevadanick Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 Email sent. Thank you !! Quote Link to comment
+yanagi Posted December 6, 2015 Author Share Posted December 6, 2015 47 particpants and all have gotten an Invitation to the spread sheet. If you haven't received a mail, please let me know. Quote Link to comment
+Nicky BJ Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Late, but mail sent... Thank you! Quote Link to comment
+Murazor Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 I'll enter my coins for trade during the Christmas break. Quote Link to comment
+Hide*seek Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Message sent. ;-) Quote Link to comment
+Six Little Spookies Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 Email coming! Quote Link to comment
+drneal Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 got my coins posted ! ILYK ILYL Quote Link to comment
+Losdelrio Team Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 My coins are posted Quote Link to comment
+yanagi Posted December 19, 2015 Author Share Posted December 19, 2015 Still time to sign in. So far we have 53 participants out of 8 countries. Already 403 coins have been listed. Quote Link to comment
+kini_ont Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Mine are added Quote Link to comment
+imoutnabout Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 QUESTION!! I have three different Lotus Compass coins to trade, but I don't want to list them each separately and use up 3 of my 50 allowed spots. Can I list it as such: Lotus Compass - your choice of Set, Bast, Duat ??? Done this way, I'll only be trading one Lotus Compass in this trade. Which one would be determined by the recipient. Is this ok? Quote Link to comment
+Murazor Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Lotus Compass - your choice of Set, Bast, Duat I think it would cause misunderstandings especially if one of the editions is called "Set". Quote Link to comment
+imoutnabout Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 I could easily change that to ...your choice of Copper, Gold or Black Nickel. Quote Link to comment
+Murazor Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 I could easily change that to ...your choice of Copper, Gold or Black Nickel. Sounds better! I think I'd word it like: "any one of ......... (your choice)" - to stress that it is just one coin. Quote Link to comment
+yanagi Posted December 23, 2015 Author Share Posted December 23, 2015 I agree to what Murazer said. In general it is not a problem at all. You could also list all three because the rules just said, you should TRY to limit your coins to maximum 50. But if you definetely just want to trade one of these three, it is the best to list just one coin with the addition of "your choice". Just make sure, that the word "set" doesn't lead to misunderstandings. Quote Link to comment
+imoutnabout Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 I agree to what Murazer said. In general it is not a problem at all. You could also list all three because the rules just said, you should TRY to limit your coins to maximum 50. But if you definetely just want to trade one of these three, it is the best to list just one coin with the addition of "your choice". Just make sure, that the word "set" doesn't lead to misunderstandings. Thank you muchly Quote Link to comment
+imoutnabout Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 (edited) Done! 646 coins listed. I put links in the "Links to Pictures" column that aren't always pictures, but the links give info on the coin I'm listing. Hope that's ok...and helpful to some people. Edited December 23, 2015 by imoutnabout Quote Link to comment
+BallyD Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Coins are added :-) Quote Link to comment
+yanagi Posted December 29, 2015 Author Share Posted December 29, 2015 Ülease remember that you have to add your coins untill 2nd of January Quote Link to comment
+nevadanick Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Ülease remember that you have to add your coins untill 2nd of January Working on it ... has been 'Holiday CRAZEEEE' for us. Thanks for the reminder though ... Quote Link to comment
+steben6 Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Ülease remember that you have to add your coins untill 2nd of January Hope to have mine in tonight or tomorrow! Quote Link to comment
+yanagi Posted January 1, 2016 Author Share Posted January 1, 2016 Happy New Year to all I extended the coin submission phase by one day, so please enter your coins untill Sunday evening Have a great time Thomas Quote Link to comment
+SchwesterD Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 Coins added. Thanx! Quote Link to comment
+steben6 Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 Got my coins loaded today. Quote Link to comment
+imoutnabout Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Are we done? Are we done? LOTS of coins to look over!! Holy crap! Quote Link to comment
+yanagi Posted January 4, 2016 Author Share Posted January 4, 2016 WE HAVE A NEW RECORD: 1563 coins have been listed, unbelievable! Oficially the submission phase is closed (if you want to submit more coins let me know as soon as possible). I copied the submission sheet into the sheet called "USE THIS COIN SHEET", sorted all coins and give them numbers. PLEASE CHECK ALL YOUR COINS!!!!!!" (A lot of people worked with the document and there may be some unwanted errors) Now the Regroup Phase begins (the Regroup Phase will be open until next Sunday January 9th, 9:00) What is regrouping about? Again I want to use Chuck's explanations: ... If you are interested in regrouping coins to make an extra special package in the hopes of landing that one must-have coin, then follow the instructions below. When you are satisfied with the way your coins stand, please let me know via email or a post to this thread. Remember, regrouping is optional. If you simply want to trade your coins off one by one as they are now listed, all you need to do is send an email to the address below saying that you are done regrouping. If everyone finishes with the regrouping early, we can move on to the Want List Phase early. Regrouping Instructions: The Regroup Phase gives all participants the chance to create sets of two or more of their coins. You can do this to make an offer more attractive to others (and therefore to have a potentially higher chance to get a specifically wanted coin). Remember -- if you decide to group two or more coins together, these will only be traded as a complete set (or not at all). To regroup your offers or to let me know that you don't do any regrouping, please - send an email to: mathtrade10@web.de - send a PN on Facebook to Thomas Weide - or post here or in the German FB-Coin-Group containing the line numbers and the coin descriptions of all coins for each coin set you want to create. Also mention your geocaching.com nickname -- just as an extra measure of insurance to keep me from making mistakes. ------------------------------------------- Example: Let's say I have seen some must-have coins that I, well, must have. Unfortunately, I feel that the coins I am offering -- on their own -- won't seal the deal. So I decide to combine some of my coins into sets. I'll fire off an email with the required info: Regrouping for E&Cplus3: Group1 ID 160 DNA Geocoin gold ID 161 DNA Geocoin silver ID 162 DNA Geocoin copper ID 165 DNA Geocoin antique silver Group2 ID 177 Tennessee Micro 2008 nickel ID 178 Tennessee Micro 2008 gold Please use the ID's as listed on the USE THIS COIN SHEET worksheet in the Mathtrade11 document. Make sure you only use the numbers in the column titled "REFER TO THIS COLUMN ONLY!" To make the group coins more visible I will highlight the rows of them with light yellow color. I will also highlight all User Names green when they submitted the regrouping information and blue when they submitted the want list (will start next week)- Please let me know if you have any questions about this process. You can post your questions here, or email them. Quote Link to comment
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