strycat Posted June 19, 2015 Posted June 19, 2015 I finally have been convinced to start logging online. My first question is, is it ok to log "Found it" on a cache that has been muggled. In this particular case the contents were all over the place and there was no log in sight. I'm 100% sure I actually had it as the container had a geocaching label on it and was 3ft from the coordinates (the contents were scattered as far as 20ft). If it is ok to claim a find on a muggled cache, how certain do I need to be that I actually found it and just some random trash? Quote
knowschad Posted June 20, 2015 Posted June 20, 2015 You just opened a big can o' worms, I'm afraid, and you will probably see a wide variety of answers to your question. Given that it had the geocaching label on the container and swag was scattered about, I would suggest you log it as found, along with a Needs Maintenance log, and make it clear that you are willing to delete your log at the cache owner's request. Better if you can send a picture of what you found, or at least describe it to the CO. Describe to the CO where you rehid the container too, if possible (I assume you put a temporary log in?) To see the flip side arguments, you may enjoy reading the Found It = Didn't Find It thread, although I personally don't believe that applies to your case. Quote
+captnemo Posted June 20, 2015 Posted June 20, 2015 You just opened a big can o' worms, I'm afraid, and you will probably see a wide variety of answers to your question. Given that it had the geocaching label on the container and swag was scattered about, I would suggest you log it as found, along with a Needs Maintenance log, and make it clear that you are willing to delete your log at the cache owner's request. Better if you can send a picture of what you found, or at least describe it to the CO. Describe to the CO where you rehid the container too, if possible (I assume you put a temporary log in?) To see the flip side arguments, you may enjoy reading the Found It = Didn't Find It thread, although I personally don't believe that applies to your case. +1. The only problem I see here is replacing the cache in it's original spot. Quote
knowschad Posted June 20, 2015 Posted June 20, 2015 (edited) I finally have been convinced to start logging online. By the way, as a cache owner, I thank you for that! Edited June 20, 2015 by knowschad Quote
+Team Microdot Posted June 20, 2015 Posted June 20, 2015 I would sign a page from my notebook and place that in the cache - that I found - put everything back together as best I could, re-hide it where I thought it belonged and message the owner with the detail. You found the cache. The fact the cache was messed up does not, as far as I'm concerned, changed that at all. Quote
+wmpastor Posted June 20, 2015 Posted June 20, 2015 I would log it if I found the container. You absolutely found the (wrecked) cache. Missing log? Replace the log, sign & you're set. Quote
+BAMBOOZLE Posted June 20, 2015 Posted June 20, 2015 I would log it if I found the container. You absolutely found the (wrecked) cache. Missing log? Replace the log, sign & you're set. +1....we've done a bunch. Quote
+JL_HSTRE Posted June 20, 2015 Posted June 20, 2015 That's a Find in my book. Also a Needs Maintenance. Quote
+hzoi Posted June 20, 2015 Posted June 20, 2015 I would log it if I found the container. You absolutely found the (wrecked) cache. Missing log? Replace the log, sign & you're set. +1....we've done a bunch. +2...same here. Quote
knowschad Posted June 20, 2015 Posted June 20, 2015 I would log it if I found the container. You absolutely found the (wrecked) cache. Missing log? Replace the log, sign & you're set. +1....we've done a bunch. +2...same here. +3... actually, most of my finds were like that. j/k, of course Quote
+Spenny! Posted June 21, 2015 Posted June 21, 2015 The last one I found like that was a lid with the Geocaching intro log sheet, a small log book, and a few small trade items but no actual container. I believe I logged it as a find but also as an NA. The cache owner was inactive and seemed to have a track record of not maintaining his caches. Quote
+bflentje Posted June 23, 2015 Posted June 23, 2015 You just opened a big can o' worms, I'm afraid, and you will probably see a wide variety of answers to your question. Given that it had the geocaching label on the container and swag was scattered about, I would suggest you log it as found, along with a Needs Maintenance log, and make it clear that you are willing to delete your log at the cache owner's request. Better if you can send a picture of what you found, or at least describe it to the CO. Describe to the CO where you rehid the container too, if possible (I assume you put a temporary log in?) To see the flip side arguments, you may enjoy reading the Found It = Didn't Find It thread, although I personally don't believe that applies to your case. What this guy said.. Quote
+AustinMN Posted June 23, 2015 Posted June 23, 2015 You just opened a big can o' worms, I'm afraid, and you will probably see a wide variety of answers to your question. Given that it had the geocaching label on the container and swag was scattered about, I would suggest you log it as found, along with a Needs Maintenance log, and make it clear that you are willing to delete your log at the cache owner's request. Better if you can send a picture of what you found, or at least describe it to the CO. Describe to the CO where you rehid the container too, if possible (I assume you put a temporary log in?) To see the flip side arguments, you may enjoy reading the Found It = Didn't Find It thread, although I personally don't believe that applies to your case. What this guy said.. What? Are you agreeing with the nearsighted dog? Quote
+NeverSummer Posted June 23, 2015 Posted June 23, 2015 I finally have been convinced to start logging online. My first question is, is it ok to log "Found it" on a cache that has been muggled. In this particular case the contents were all over the place and there was no log in sight. I'm 100% sure I actually had it as the container had a geocaching label on it and was 3ft from the coordinates (the contents were scattered as far as 20ft). If it is ok to claim a find on a muggled cache, how certain do I need to be that I actually found it and just some random trash? You just opened a big can o' worms, I'm afraid, and you will probably see a wide variety of answers to your question. Given that it had the geocaching label on the container and swag was scattered about, I would suggest you log it as found, along with a Needs Maintenance log, and make it clear that you are willing to delete your log at the cache owner's request. Better if you can send a picture of what you found, or at least describe it to the CO. Describe to the CO where you rehid the container too, if possible (I assume you put a temporary log in?) To see the flip side arguments, you may enjoy reading the Found It = Didn't Find It thread, although I personally don't believe that applies to your case. Best bet is to email the owner and ask this question. If they don't answer, then you can always log a Needs Maintenance log and see what happens. Then, if nothing happens, you can log a Needs Archived and see what happened. Then, if nothing happens, you could log a "Found It" if you really feel like that's what you want to do. If they do answer after the email, the Needs Maintenance, or Needs Archived log that you can log a find, then go ahead and do so. There's no reason someone can't go back and log a cache they found months ago if that's how long it takes to get an answer back from the cache owner if it is or isn't ok to log a "Found It" on their muggled, no-log-present cache. Quote
+bflentje Posted June 23, 2015 Posted June 23, 2015 You just opened a big can o' worms, I'm afraid, and you will probably see a wide variety of answers to your question. Given that it had the geocaching label on the container and swag was scattered about, I would suggest you log it as found, along with a Needs Maintenance log, and make it clear that you are willing to delete your log at the cache owner's request. Better if you can send a picture of what you found, or at least describe it to the CO. Describe to the CO where you rehid the container too, if possible (I assume you put a temporary log in?) To see the flip side arguments, you may enjoy reading the Found It = Didn't Find It thread, although I personally don't believe that applies to your case. What this guy said.. What? Are you agreeing with the nearsighted dog? Ya, strange, eh? Actually, contrary to these forums, the dog and I go way back and agree on a whole lot of things. I know it's hard to tell sometimes.. Quote
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