+Il Boss Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 (edited) Hi everyone, I was recently thinking about extreme geocaches and I'm now wondering what is the deepest geocaching hide in a cave. By deepest I mean the maximum vertical distance from the cave entrance to the final geocache container. Example: Cache A is at an absolute elevation of 2000m and cave entrance is at 3000m (total vertical distance = 1000m), cache B is at -200m and cave entrance is 500m (total vertical distance = 700m). Deepest cache is A. I tried to search forums for a similar thread, but only found discussions about extreme caches in general. Sorry if I missed the right one and this is a repetition. The deepest hide to my knowledge is about -370m. Edited August 6, 2013 by Il Boss Quote Link to comment
+SwineFlew Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 750 feet. Carlsbad cave and yes there are two caches there I think. Quote Link to comment
+AutisticMajor Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 750 feet. Carlsbad cave and yes there are two caches there I think. Do you mean Carlsbad Caverns, Naturally? It's an earthcache. Also, Virtual New Mexico #5, a virtual. Quote Link to comment
+Il Boss Posted August 6, 2013 Author Share Posted August 6, 2013 750 feet. Carlsbad cave and yes there are two caches there I think. Do you mean Carlsbad Caverns, Naturally? It's an earthcache. Also, Virtual New Mexico #5, a virtual. Well, I would count it if you have to go all the way down. Obviously, the depth would be the lowest point you have to reach to answer a question. In any case, 750ft is still less than ~1200ft (~370m). Quote Link to comment
+releasethedogs Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 My lowest cache is -419 meters (-1374 feet) below sea level. Its even in a small cave. Quote Link to comment
+NYPaddleCacher Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 I just heard about this cache today in another thread. It may not be the deepest cave cache but it certainly unique. It's an Earthcache in a cave...underneath Dubrovnik airport in Croatia. Quote Link to comment
+SwineFlew Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 (edited) Carlsbad is the deepest in the upper 48. Lechuguilla Cave, in Carlsbad Caverns National Park, New Mexico is the deepest cave in the United States. Its depth is 1,565 feet (477 meters). Of those two caches, I have no idea where they are in the cave. I did more research and found another cave in Hawaii. This is the home of the deepest in the USA. http://coord.info/GCQV5H http://coord.info/GCQV5G and http://coord.info/GCQV5E Edited August 7, 2013 by SwineFlew Quote Link to comment
+Il Boss Posted August 7, 2013 Author Share Posted August 7, 2013 My lowest cache is -419 meters (-1374 feet) below sea level. Its even in a small cave. Cool! Could you please write the cache code? Carlsbad is the deepest in the upper 48. Of those two caches, I have no idea where they are in the cave. I did more research and found another cave in Hawaii. This is the home of the deepest in the USA. http://coord.info/GCQV5H http://coord.info/GCQV5G and http://coord.info/GCQV5E I've been in the Carlsbad Caverns recently and the earthcache is along the trail inside the cave, but that is not very deep from the entrance. About Thurston Lava Tube earthcache, does anyone know how deep is the vertical extension of the visitor trail? I couldn't find any information apart from its horizontal extension, but it doesn't seem to be very steep. Quote Link to comment
+bflentje Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 (edited) Perhaps the Soudan Underground Mine in Minnesota's Iron Range could use an earthcache.. it's 2341' below the surface and 689' below sea level. Edited August 7, 2013 by bflentje Quote Link to comment
+fizzymagic Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 I did more research and found another cave in Hawaii. This is the home of the deepest in the USA. http://coord.info/GCQV5H http://coord.info/GCQV5G and http://coord.info/GCQV5E Um, no. None of those caves is very deep underground. Lava tubes can be very long but they tend to remain close to the surface. Quote Link to comment
+SwineFlew Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 (edited) I did more research and found another cave in Hawaii. This is the home of the deepest in the USA. http://coord.info/GCQV5H http://coord.info/GCQV5G and http://coord.info/GCQV5E Um, no. None of those caves is very deep underground. Lava tubes can be very long but they tend to remain close to the surface. Thats in the area of the deepest cave in USA. http://www.caverbob.com/usadeep.htm There is no cache here... but its open for tours. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kazumura_Cave Edited August 7, 2013 by SwineFlew Quote Link to comment
+fizzymagic Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 I did more research and found another cave in Hawaii. This is the home of the deepest in the USA. http://coord.info/GCQV5H http://coord.info/GCQV5G and http://coord.info/GCQV5E Um, no. None of those caves is very deep underground. Lava tubes can be very long but they tend to remain close to the surface. Thats in the area of the deepest cave in USA. http://www.caverbob.com/usadeep.htm There is no cache here... but its open for tours. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kazumura_Cave You're right! Wow, I would love to go into that 40-mile-long one! Quote Link to comment
+Il Boss Posted August 7, 2013 Author Share Posted August 7, 2013 I did more research and found another cave in Hawaii. This is the home of the deepest in the USA. http://coord.info/GCQV5H http://coord.info/GCQV5G and http://coord.info/GCQV5E Um, no. None of those caves is very deep underground. Lava tubes can be very long but they tend to remain close to the surface. Thats in the area of the deepest cave in USA. http://www.caverbob.com/usadeep.htm There is no cache here... but its open for tours. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kazumura_Cave Wait, I'm not talking about deepest cave itself, not even about it's elevation. Instead, what is the deepest cave hidden from cave entrance (refer to the first example). In other words, what is the longest vertical path a geocacher must follow to find an existing cache to your knowledge? Lava tubes are usually very shallow, but if a geocacher must enter the cave at 1000m to find a cache at 500m, that would be a 500m drop. The existing cache may be anywhere in the world. Quote Link to comment
+DanPan Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 The deepest hide to my knowledge is about -370m. Could you please share the GC-code? Quote Link to comment
+SwineFlew Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 (edited) I did more research and found another cave in Hawaii. This is the home of the deepest in the USA. http://coord.info/GCQV5H http://coord.info/GCQV5G and http://coord.info/GCQV5E Um, no. None of those caves is very deep underground. Lava tubes can be very long but they tend to remain close to the surface. Thats in the area of the deepest cave in USA. http://www.caverbob.com/usadeep.htm There is no cache here... but its open for tours. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kazumura_Cave Wait, I'm not talking about deepest cave itself, not even about it's elevation. Instead, what is the deepest cave hidden from cave entrance (refer to the first example). In other words, what is the longest vertical path a geocacher must follow to find an existing cache to your knowledge? Lava tubes are usually very shallow, but if a geocacher must enter the cave at 1000m to find a cache at 500m, that would be a 500m drop. The existing cache may be anywhere in the world. Oh I understand that, but to find the caches you want, you need to find all the deep caves. Its a no brainier there. Anyone can say how deep their caches are in a cave. Yes, I dont trust the depth of any cache in a cave. Yes, it can open up a huge debate of who got the deepest cache in a cave. Since it cant be proved without special equipment, so its all void. Edited August 7, 2013 by SwineFlew Quote Link to comment
+Il Boss Posted August 8, 2013 Author Share Posted August 8, 2013 Could you please share the GC-code? That cache is actually mine, I didn't want to advertise it. I was recently looking at extreme caches in Europe and after a while I started thinking that I may have hidden the deepest one without realizing it. Now I'm a bit curious, because I thought there were deeper ones. Here it is: http://coord.info/GC3P881 Oh I understand that, but to find the caches you want, you need to find all the deep caves. Its a no brainier there. Anyone can say how deep their caches are in a cave. Yes, I dont trust the depth of any cache in a cave. Yes, it can open up a huge debate of who got the deepest cache in a cave. Since it cant be proved without special equipment, so its all void. I don't really agree with that. If the cave has been surveyed with recent techniques and the maps are accurate, you can estimate the cache depth from the entrance. It won't be extremely precise, but you may still have a ~10m accuracy. That may be sufficient to distinguish the deepest cache if there's enough separation from the closest one. Quote Link to comment
+DanPan Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Thx for sharing the GC-code. The deepest (no cave) cache of the world is Rainbow Hydrothermal Vents at the sea floor 2300 meters down. Quote Link to comment
+SwineFlew Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Thx for sharing the GC-code. The deepest (no cave) cache of the world is Rainbow Hydrothermal Vents at the sea floor 2300 meters down. Yes...that... or the deepest one in space. Quote Link to comment
+etphoneme2plz Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Could you please share the GC-code? That cache is actually mine, I didn't want to advertise it. I was recently looking at extreme caches in Europe and after a while I started thinking that I may have hidden the deepest one without realizing it. Now I'm a bit curious, because I thought there were deeper ones. Here it is: http://coord.info/GC3P881 Oh I understand that, but to find the caches you want, you need to find all the deep caves. Its a no brainier there. Anyone can say how deep their caches are in a cave. Yes, I dont trust the depth of any cache in a cave. Yes, it can open up a huge debate of who got the deepest cache in a cave. Since it cant be proved without special equipment, so its all void. I don't really agree with that. If the cave has been surveyed with recent techniques and the maps are accurate, you can estimate the cache depth from the entrance. It won't be extremely precise, but you may still have a ~10m accuracy. That may be sufficient to distinguish the deepest cache if there's enough separation from the closest one. I must say that is an AWESOME cache hide!! Would love to find it BUT I'm too fat, no arm strength and waaaayyyy out of shape!! LOL There are some great really pretty cave pics posted!!! Cudos those those that have traveled this path!! Quote Link to comment
AZcachemeister Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Could you please share the GC-code? That cache is actually mine, I didn't want to advertise it. I was recently looking at extreme caches in Europe and after a while I started thinking that I may have hidden the deepest one without realizing it. Now I'm a bit curious, because I thought there were deeper ones. Here it is: http://coord.info/GC3P881 Oh I understand that, but to find the caches you want, you need to find all the deep caves. Its a no brainier there. Anyone can say how deep their caches are in a cave. Yes, I dont trust the depth of any cache in a cave. Yes, it can open up a huge debate of who got the deepest cache in a cave. Since it cant be proved without special equipment, so its all void. I don't really agree with that. If the cave has been surveyed with recent techniques and the maps are accurate, you can estimate the cache depth from the entrance. It won't be extremely precise, but you may still have a ~10m accuracy. That may be sufficient to distinguish the deepest cache if there's enough separation from the closest one. It would seem to me the OP's cache has won hands-down. While the Kazumura Cave may involve 3000+ feet of descent in it's course, is the terminus actually 3000+ feet below the surface...I don't think so. To me, the deepest cave hide means how far do I need to drill straight up from the cache location to reach the surface. Quote Link to comment
+DanPan Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 FYI: Underground III: Vertical Crawling Cave cache at -100m located in Belgium. Quote Link to comment
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