geojed Posted October 16, 2003 Posted October 16, 2003 I've looked and can't find a single travel bug race that has any information for entering.If you know of any races please tell me -geojed Quote
+brad.32 Posted October 17, 2003 Posted October 17, 2003 You asked that about a month ago. I see you're in Alaska, do you have an idea or where would you like the bugs to start from and go? I've never been part of a TB race, but there's always a first time... I have some TB tags How about if all the TBs have to be snow/winter themed (polar bear, husky, snowmobile, snowman, etc), starting in Alaska, and the goal is some cache in Florida? ... this is only a draft suggestion, not to be taken seriously or restrictively. Quote
+brad.32 Posted October 17, 2003 Posted October 17, 2003 A race around the world is overly ambitious. Quote
geojed Posted October 18, 2003 Author Posted October 18, 2003 I would be starting the race in my "take a hike in the woods cache". I just need someone to make a website and donate or make a cache in Florida. -geojed Quote
Ultimamind Posted October 19, 2003 Posted October 19, 2003 quote:Originally posted by geojed:I would be starting the race in my "take a hike in the woods cache". I just need someone to make a website and donate or make a cache in Florida. What do you mean make a cache in Florida? Are you trying to get your TB from AK to FL? Where in FL? I am there....curiouser and curiouser. Quote
+brad.32 Posted October 19, 2003 Posted October 19, 2003 There are lots of caches in Florida already. None of those will work? How fancy of a web page do you need? Should it be page with race information plus a map server that will generate a dynamic map as the race progresses or a simple page with a periodically updated map? Under its own domain? Anyone else interested in an AK to FL race? Quote
geojed Posted October 22, 2003 Author Posted October 22, 2003 any cache that would fit a travel bug would be fine (no virtuals or micros) Quote
geojed Posted October 25, 2003 Author Posted October 25, 2003 Ok it sounds like it's definatelly AK to Fl race.Any cache will do, if you have a name idea please tell me Quote
+stu_and_sarah Posted October 26, 2003 Posted October 26, 2003 You could always find a partner to race (anywhere in the world), then each place a bug in your local cache, racing to the other person's cache. That way when they arrive, you can pick them up and mail them back. Although they're going opposite directions, they still have to cover the exact same distance. Maybe worth a try? Quote
+IV_Warrior Posted October 26, 2003 Posted October 26, 2003 Alaska to Florida? Sounds interesting, what are the rules? How far can a bug move in one hop? One state/province at a time, or as far as a cacher wants to/can take it? Get some rules together here, I've got an extra TB tag sitting around. Not holding back Quote
geojed Posted October 26, 2003 Author Posted October 26, 2003 heres a basic set of rules: 1 no intentally harming a travel bug,if you want to do that go to the "cannonball run" race 2.A geocacher may move a travel bug they find as far as they want 3.not neccesary but please use new travel bug thats it, unless I forgot somthing,get them ready,you can do anything you want dress them as alaskans put them in bags with information ect And enjoy the race -geojed (P.S.the rules are up for some debate) (P.S.S. the race starts here) Quote
+brad.32 Posted October 27, 2003 Posted October 27, 2003 Here are a couple possible destinations that are long-lived caches in Florida: http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?guid=c87aba5c-3c61-41d5-bc58-7020fc9f13d5 http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?guid=675cd234-d398-4166-a23d-d8484a93f135 http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?guid=d90d6a54-8b60-4c6d-a612-c2440b5a9295 http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?guid=0b343a3a-cfd7-4d8f-978e-28c2fb631d95 http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?guid=55029b68-8db2-40d5-9c61-292a34de58c1 http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?guid=00dd3c02-693a-459a-8b6f-d44cf6fe9c29 http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?guid=80acd66e-8bec-4453-a8db-9a79917e88ca Quote
+The Frantic Cachers Posted October 27, 2003 Posted October 27, 2003 How about certain "checkpoint caches" along the way so that they cannot make one plane hop to win. Quote
+brad.32 Posted October 27, 2003 Posted October 27, 2003 I like the idea from the Cannonball run where a bug has make state-to-state moves. Because the provinces are so big, I thought a distance rule might be in order, 200 miles(?). Checkpoints could work too. This race is not a sponsered race, so is going to have a smaller ... budget ... than the NY Geocaching Organization's Cannonball Run. Some initial questions and my guesses/answers: 1. Are long flights fair to the sportsmenship of the race? No. 2. Winter may not be the best time to start in AK. How much caching happens in Alaska and Canada in the winter? Along that line, how many cachers are there in Canada? Not much/many, will be a slow start. 3. Why should I enter a bug in the race? What are the award categories? What are the prizes? I'll ignore the first one. Awards for first, second, and third places, most interesting/unique bug (determined by poll), others(?), I don't want to do a lot of counting statistics. I seem to be kind of a coordinator with geojed so I'll put up some for prizes, he hasn't told me to "shut up, it's my race". 4. Is Brad racing a moose? Yes 29 Nov Race Begins. 30 Nov "Was in Anchorage for a winter polar bear conference. The snow was pretty deep out to the cache, but a nice hike in my rented snowshoes. Picked up Brad's moose TB. I see he's in some race." 6 Dec "Back home in Miami. I know he's in a race, but this is the first chance I had, sorry for holding the moose so long. Dropped him off at a local cache. Hope he wins!" 7 Dec "Picked up the moose TB." 14 Dec "Placed the moose in the destination cache. Woo hoo! He wins first place!" Back in Anchorage... "Found this awesome 4x4-monster-truck TB in the AK to FL race, cool. When the snow melts, I'll place it somewhere, but I'm gonna play with it this winter." 15 Dec - months and months The big wait for the REST of the bugs. [This message was edited by brad.32 on October 27, 2003 at 08:10 AM.] Quote
geojed Posted October 27, 2003 Author Posted October 27, 2003 Brad the luck is part of the fun.How about a gulf race Gulf of Alaska to Gulf of Mexico or here to here or 3,787.87 miles [This message was edited by geojed on October 27, 2003 at 06:04 PM.] Quote
+brad.32 Posted October 28, 2003 Posted October 28, 2003 The Great (or First) Gulf to Gulf Transcontinental Travel Bug Race. Quote
+fly46 Posted October 29, 2003 Posted October 29, 2003 I like the idea of Alaska to Florida, but I think that it would be better to post pone it until spring... How about Florida to Alaska? That way it could be in the warmer states while the north is having bad weather and by the time everything is thawing, they'll make their way up here? I also agree there should be a distance rule. I can see someone sending their bug to FLA because they're going to be there for a conference or somethign and then getting it and taking it bakc home to help move it along. I have a good rule.... How about no touching your own travel bug once it's in the race unless it comes to your home state? Quote
geojed Posted October 31, 2003 Author Posted October 31, 2003 Another rule:if you enter the race you are not allowed to touch any racers and if you do you will be DQed from the race Quote
+brad.32 Posted October 31, 2003 Posted October 31, 2003 While I didn't think people lived in igloos in Anchorage, I've been corrected in that snowshoes aren't needed there. It's a coastal town next to the Pacific, so the climate is mild compared to the inland areas. It doesn't get that cold and they don't get a lot of snow. The bugs will find themselves in the cold interior as they travel south, but their stay in Anchorage will be pleasant. Quote
+SomewhereInND Posted November 24, 2003 Posted November 24, 2003 I am about to start my own race with six travel bugs. http://www.geocaching.com/track/track_detail.asp?ID=55100 Might end up being a multi lap race. If someone wants to join in, I will add a link to your bug on my web page. Bugs dont have to start in the same spot. We have snow on the ground up here, my bugs will probably be stuck in a snow bank until spring. Bryan Harstad SomewhereInND Quote
+brad.32 Posted November 24, 2003 Posted November 24, 2003 I am about to start my own race with six travel bugs. When are you going to start your race, i.e., how much time do we have to get one ready? If they are to start and finish in ND, then we would need to send them to you/someone in ND. Quote
+Team-Mikkelsen Posted November 24, 2003 Posted November 24, 2003 Heya How about trying to get it to Norway ? That would be a nice challenge for sure Quote
+SomewhereInND Posted November 26, 2003 Posted November 26, 2003 I was thinking about starting it on Dec 1, but the problem is snow! Geocaching pretty much shuts down up here in the winter. So I will probably start them in the spring. As far as adding other bugs.... They don't actually have to start in the same place, you could have your own start/finish line, just has to get around the US Quote
+SomewhereInND Posted November 26, 2003 Posted November 26, 2003 Other options is I could mail my bugs to someone, and start finish line could be somewhere else. Quote
+brad.32 Posted November 26, 2003 Posted November 26, 2003 fly46 suggested geojed start his race in Florida and heading to Alaska from there, so the same could be done with yours, or you could wait until spring. The problems include 1) the waiting and 2) conflict with the 2nd annual cannonball run, assuming they do the run again. Making a race "annual" assumes the racers finish in less than a year, a big assumption for TBs. Seems like your race is ready to go, so there's no point in waiting. The/We Johnny-Come-Lately entries are the only thing potentially slowing you down. Is yours a Lego-themed race? It could start and end in Carlsbad, if someone down there wants to handle the placing and watching. I could do it here, but I'm near SF so clockwise from here could potentially get a bug to Washington or Montana while still winter. Quote
+brad.32 Posted December 4, 2003 Posted December 4, 2003 It seems no one is interested in either of these races. (This is a bump.) Quote
+donbadabon Posted December 4, 2003 Posted December 4, 2003 I was watching the thread to see what transpired. I was thinking about joining in, but being in Virginia, didn't know the process involved in mailing my bug out, etc. Quote
+The Frantic Cachers Posted December 4, 2003 Posted December 4, 2003 I may be interested....I am just waiting to see what can be put together. I wouldlove to help out but I really don't have too much time to put into it. Quote
+SomewhereInND Posted December 5, 2003 Posted December 5, 2003 Too much snow up here, I am going to wait until spring to release my 6 lego racers. Now if I can only find my car, I think I marked it on my GPS, might have to do a litttle digging to find this one. Quote
+brad.32 Posted December 5, 2003 Posted December 5, 2003 I've been hearing about racing for months now since geojed mentioned he was interested in forming one up there. Not much has happened and I'm assuming the Cannonball Run might start up in the spring around the time SomewhereInND starts his race too. I like SomewhereInND's round-the-clock idea, then the start and finish are in one place. His web map for the race status is what I had in mind for a race web page. Nothing fancy like the Cannonball Run. I don't have the web design skills to do that. If the race runs to Florida from here in California or counter-clockwise-around-the-US race from here, that should avoid the snow (this winter). Someone in Florida would have to retreive the bugs there though for the former. Any volunteers? Otherwise I'll do the latter (SomewhereInND's circle idea if it's okay with him). I'M GOING TO DO THIS, if some other people join in. I'm thinking the race would start about 1-4 Jan 2004, which should give people time to mail their bugs to me and for people to agree on rules, etc. I'm not running a moose for this race. Any one ready to go by New Years Day? Quote
+Sparky-Watts Posted December 5, 2003 Posted December 5, 2003 Perhaps I missed it if someone already suggested this, but what about a race to see which bug can hit all 50 states first? I just launched my first bug yesterday (Sparky's Tornado Alley Traveller), and his main goal is to make it out of Tornado Alley before the season hits next spring. Quote
+bons Posted December 5, 2003 Posted December 5, 2003 Since I have a bug waiting to be released with very similar goals (hit as many states/providences as possible and maybe pick up some el cheapo keychains along the way) I'm in for that one whenever it begins. As for cross country races, I'll wait till Cannonball comes around again. Since it looks like a "greater part of a year to finish" race then I'm probably not in a rush to start, especially right as winter is beginning. Quote
+brad.32 Posted December 5, 2003 Posted December 5, 2003 Perhaps I missed it if someone already suggested this, but what about a race to see which bug can hit all 50 states first? I've seen a number of bugs with that goal, but not any that are racing. Quote
+Sparky-Watts Posted December 5, 2003 Posted December 5, 2003 Since I have a bug waiting to be released with very similar goals (hit as many states/providences as possible and maybe pick up some el cheapo keychains along the way) I'm in for that one whenever it begins. Bons, I just ordered some more TBs and will let you know when they arrive, so that we can try to find more people who want to join. Quote
+brad.32 Posted December 5, 2003 Posted December 5, 2003 I've worked up a strawman, bare-bones web page for the race I've proposed: http://users.rcn.com/brad.32/geocaching/tbrace.htm ... maybe it should be hosted on geocities or something. Is it sufficiently different in intent and timing from the Great Cannonball Run, SomewhereInND's, geojed's, etc race to be worth doing and not interfere with participation in those races? People have sensitive feet sometimes. It will be a greater-part-of-a-year race, yes. Other suggestions? If this thing actually gets off the ground, I'll start a new announcement TB thread, but the clock is ticking, but, then again, the 1ST ANNUAL TRAVELBUG CANNONBALL RUN thread doesn't have a mention of a when or if for the 2nd. Quote
+Three_of_Us Posted December 8, 2003 Posted December 8, 2003 You might want to skip Florida as a mandatory point. I was down there recently and almost every cache had logs about an exterminator. They even have a TB safehouse set up to help get the TBs out of Florida. Quote
geojed Posted December 12, 2003 Author Posted December 12, 2003 there is snow here and since mine is in the woods I doubt that i will be able to start for a while however if a florida cacher would like to help.... Quote
+SomewhereInND Posted December 17, 2003 Posted December 17, 2003 I released my six bugs, they are sitting in a snow bank right now, probably will be there until spring. Sorry didnt wait for anyone else, had a little cabin fever yesterday. Caching is a great cure for cabin fever. After slipping and sliding in the snow/mud yesterday, I realized that mosquitos are not all that bad. Here is a link to 1 of the 6, it contains links to the others. http://www.geocaching.com/track/details.aspx?ID=61538 The bug page also contains a link to a race page that I set up, not much on that page yet. If anyone wants to join in, release your bug, tell me about it, and Ill provide a link to it, they dont have to start at the same spot. Winning formula will be (NumberOfValidStatesVisited - NumberOfValidStatesMissed)* NumberOfValidCachesVisted / NumberOfDaysToCompleteLoop. Valid states/caches are states bordering outside of continental US This formula does not really care when bugs were released, or where they were released. Anyone can join in at anytime. Could keep a running list of high scores, Bugs can do multiple laps, each lap is a seperate race. High Score wins, winner gets $1,000,000.00 Quote
geojed Posted March 22, 2004 Author Posted March 22, 2004 I missed the cannonball run maybe i should start this race geojed Quote
+SomewhereInND Posted March 22, 2004 Posted March 22, 2004 Might as well join in, so far all of mine have been stuck in the snow. Of the 6 bugs I released, 1 has moved 6 miles. Quote
CannonBall Run Posted March 22, 2004 Posted March 22, 2004 Let me toss in my two cents here too. First off, don't worry about stepping on toes.. mine are pretty calloused and thick (like my head). Second any rule you make that says that an owner is disqualified if they handle one of the bugs in the race is absolutely unenforcable, we found this out on the 1st Cannonball Run, there was an instance where I absolutely know that an individual moved His?her own bug but it was logged under a sock puppet account and we could do nothing about it. Third, any rule you make, someone will do their best to find a way around it! Hope some of this helps, good luck with your race! Quote
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