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Why, when I find geocaches with notebooks, are so many cachers writing only on one side of a page and taking up the whole page ...

 

... until there's only a few pages left then they share pages and write on front and back?

I think it is related to the protocol for standing in urinals.

 

I don't what the official protocol is for that but I'm pretty sure you're supposed to stand in *front* of them.

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And what's with the caches that someone says the log is completely full and needs a new one. However, only one side of the pages are used and the back of every page is blank?

 

Found a cache once that had logs indicating the log was full. Then when I go to log it, found, not only was the back side of all the sheets clean and unsigned, the last couple of signatures where squeezed in very tightly on the front! :D:(:)

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Why, when I find geocaches with notebooks, are so many cachers writing only on one side of a page and taking up the whole page ...

 

... until there's only a few pages left then they share pages and write on front and back?

I think it is related to the protocol for standing in urinals.

 

I don't what the official protocol is for that but I'm pretty sure you're supposed to stand in *front* of them.

Well, yeah, that. But protocol dictates that you do not stand immediately next to an occupied urinal unless there are no unoccupied urinals with unoccupied neighbors.

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Why, when the cache is an ammo box with a ful sized spiral notebook for a log, they will sign with a date and initials, but when the cache is a nano, they will sign their full names and a full description of their experience?

 

 

Huh? Why izzit?!?

 

Nice hat friend of chad.

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And what's with the caches that someone says the log is completely full and needs a new one. However, only one side of the pages are used and the back of every page is blank?

 

Found a cache once that had logs indicating the log was full. Then when I go to log it, found, not only was the back side of all the sheets clean and unsigned, the last couple of signatures where squeezed in very tightly on the front! :D:(:)

That's when it's time to flip the log over, turn it around, and pretend that's the front. Writing the name of the cache on the new "front" cover helps.

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Why, when I find geocaches with notebooks, are so many cachers writing only on one side of a page and taking up the whole page ...

 

... until there's only a few pages left then they share pages and write on front and back?

I think it is related to the protocol for standing in urinals.

 

I don't what the official protocol is for that but I'm pretty sure you're supposed to stand in *front* of them.

Well, yeah, that. But protocol dictates that you do not stand immediately next to an occupied urinal unless there are no unoccupied urinals with unoccupied neighbors.

 

:D There's an iPhone app for that! :(

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Why, when the cache is an ammo box with a ful sized spiral notebook for a log, they will sign with a date and initials, but when the cache is a nano, they will sign their full names and a full description of their experience?

Huh? Why izzit?!?

Nice hat friend of chad.
Thanks! I was hoping someone would notice. I stole it.
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Why, when the cache is an ammo box with a ful sized spiral notebook for a log, they will sign with a date and initials, but when the cache is a nano, they will sign their full names and a full description of their experience?

Huh? Why izzit?!?

Nice hat friend of chad.
Thanks! I was hoping someone would notice. I stole it.

I noticed the "hat" but thought it looked kind of like a muppet with the mouth wide open. :D

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Why, when the cache is an ammo box with a ful sized spiral notebook for a log, they will sign with a date and initials, but when the cache is a nano, they will sign their full names and a full description of their experience?

Huh? Why izzit?!?

Nice hat friend of chad.
Thanks! I was hoping someone would notice. I stole it.

I noticed the "hat" but thought it looked kind of like a muppet with the mouth wide open. :D

You've got two days to figure out who I stole it from. CAN HE DO IT?!?!?!?
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Why, when I find geocaches with notebooks, are so many cachers writing only on one side of a page and taking up the whole page ...

 

... until there's only a few pages left then they share pages and write on front and back?

 

Huh? Why izzit?!?

 

Previously the practice was to use an entire page to leave a note for the cache owner and other cachers writing about the hunt, how they got there and what they traded. I used to enjoy reading every page of a logbook. Today everyone justs signs in. It seems rather pointless to me. The logbook was originally intended for other cachers and the cache owner to read about how they felt about the hide, the area, and what they traded. Somehow it changed to just proving you were there. Most older caches were originally stocked with trade items worth something and cachers brought something along specifically for that particular cache to trade. Many caches had trading "themes". There was a degree of trust among cachers to trade evenly. Somehow when the trend became to just "proving you were there", the trade items turned to crapola. You have a cache stocked with $50 of items, but then you had to sign in "to prove you were there" seems rather silly. You would think that it would matter more about what you traded, rather than proving that you found it. I suppose that micros could be to blame, as they dont have any trade items, and just a minimalist log sheet, but there are several other factors. Perhaps the forums are to blame. Who has the most posts? :( Nobody really audits their caches to check who visited against who logged it online, so why would the onus be on to proving that you found it? Coins disappear all too frequently also. They would be better off using the special icons to more easily identify micros rather than coins. With all the down traders and coin theives it really sucks the fun out of it. If there was an icon to prevent cachers from dropping coins in my caches, I would use it. I noticed on a few caches that someone visited them just to take the coins. :D

 

The logbook was once an integral part of caching, not a logsheet. pffff.

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Previously the practice was to use an entire page to leave a note for the cache owner and other cachers writing about the hunt, how they got there and what they traded. I used to enjoy reading every page of a logbook. Today everyone justs signs in. It seems rather pointless to me. The logbook was originally intended for other cachers and the cache owner to read about how they felt about the hide, the area, and what they traded. Somehow it changed to just proving you were there.

 

I know my logging practice has changed over the years. I used to always take time to write at least a few lines in the logbook and now I mostly just sign my name and move on.

 

Certainly part of it is the caches themselves -- more and more are in high visibility areas where I don't want to take any more time than necessary before hiding the cache again. Even hiking is different -- there used to be one cache at the end of the trail. That would be here you would sit down, have some lunch, sign the log, enjoy the scenery, etc. Now that cache may still exist, but there are six caches along the trail leading to that final. Those caches become "find, sign and move on" because the real goal is still to be reached -- they are really just good excuses for a rest break and water stop.

 

I also admit that I prefer to write about my hunt and how I got there in the online log rather than the paper log. I figure that way there is a permanent record (as long as Groundspeak exists, anyway!), and both the cache owner and I can read it whenever we want. It also allows me to share the experience with all cachers, not just those who find the cache. (Yes, I still live in a happy little world where I believe someone besides me cares about my caching experiences.)

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Found a logbook in a medium-size cache on Tuesday afternoon. Last few entries were indeed only liners - TFTC sort of thing.

 

I followed them with:

12-22-09 DragonsWest

I see the lion

and the lion sees me

 

I figured that was about all the time I could dedicate to it. So dadgum glad I hike with a stout staff of eucalyptus, if at least for the reassurance of having something to defend myself if need be.

 

We eyeballed each other over about 50 feet apart then went our separate ways.

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Why, when I find geocaches with notebooks, are so many cachers writing only on one side of a page and taking up the whole page ...

 

... until there's only a few pages left then they share pages and write on front and back?

I think it is related to the protocol for standing in urinals.

 

I don't what the official protocol is for that but I'm pretty sure you're supposed to stand in *front* of them.

Well, yeah, that. But protocol dictates that you do not stand immediately next to an occupied urinal unless there are no unoccupied urinals with unoccupied neighbors.

 

Thats also why there is urine on the seat of most men's toilets in public bathrooms. Because of the privacy issue many men will not use a urinal but go and hide in a stall. Its a little annoying to have to go #2, and walk into a bathroom with 4 urinals and 3 toilets and notice that there is only one person in there, standing in a stall urinating. I dont understand why they make the urinals more private. Its puts some strain on the quadriceps hovering over the seat. :D Which is it that causes this behaviour, shame or fear? :mad::mad:

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Found a logbook in a medium-size cache on Tuesday afternoon. Last few entries were indeed only liners - TFTC sort of thing.

 

I followed them with:

12-22-09 DragonsWest

I see the lion

and the lion sees me

 

I figured that was about all the time I could dedicate to it. So dadgum glad I hike with a stout staff of eucalyptus, if at least for the reassurance of having something to defend myself if need be.

 

We eyeballed each other over about 50 feet apart then went our separate ways.

Were you caching at the zoo? :D

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Found a logbook in a medium-size cache on Tuesday afternoon. Last few entries were indeed only liners - TFTC sort of thing.

 

I followed them with:

12-22-09 DragonsWest

I see the lion

and the lion sees me

 

I figured that was about all the time I could dedicate to it. So dadgum glad I hike with a stout staff of eucalyptus, if at least for the reassurance of having something to defend myself if need be.

 

We eyeballed each other over about 50 feet apart then went our separate ways.

Were you caching at the zoo? :D

 

Nope. Wilder Ranch State Park, just west of Santa Cruz, Californy proper. I've seen a juvenile mountain lion on a bike ride (OH S**T!! Where's it's mother?!?) but this was the first encounter with an adult. Not a terribly large one, probably about 70-80 lbs, but still nothing to take lightly.

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I got the connection, but it was nice of you to post that anyway.

 

Have you ever had a joke that was kinda funny in your head, but when you blurt it out everyone just looks at you like you're missing a chromosome? This was one of those situations.

 

And, so I'm not completely off-topic, I hold no angst about what people put in the log, just so they put something *in* the log (i.e. their name).

 

Right, back to licking windows...

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Previously the practice was to use an entire page to leave a note for the cache owner and other cachers writing about the hunt, how they got there and what they traded. I used to enjoy reading every page of a logbook. Today everyone justs signs in. It seems rather pointless to me. The logbook was originally intended for other cachers and the cache owner to read about how they felt about the hide, the area, and what they traded. Somehow it changed to just proving you were there.

 

I know my logging practice has changed over the years. I used to always take time to write at least a few lines in the logbook and now I mostly just sign my name and move on.

 

Certainly part of it is the caches themselves -- more and more are in high visibility areas where I don't want to take any more time than necessary before hiding the cache again. Even hiking is different -- there used to be one cache at the end of the trail. That would be here you would sit down, have some lunch, sign the log, enjoy the scenery, etc. Now that cache may still exist, but there are six caches along the trail leading to that final. Those caches become "find, sign and move on" because the real goal is still to be reached -- they are really just good excuses for a rest break and water stop.

 

I also admit that I prefer to write about my hunt and how I got there in the online log rather than the paper log. I figure that way there is a permanent record (as long as Groundspeak exists, anyway!), and both the cache owner and I can read it whenever we want. It also allows me to share the experience with all cachers, not just those who find the cache. (Yes, I still live in a happy little world where I believe someone besides me cares about my caching experiences.)

 

Well, there really should be a few lines written if there is a logbook, or even a picture would be cool, but the logsheet trend on micros has wore off onto the full size caches. If you hike an hour to find a cache and you sit down to read the logbook and all there is is just a list of names, its a bit boring.

However if there is a buch of full size caches all close to each other, its a bit redundant to write anything more than a signature..

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Why izzit that some people insist on trying to change the topic of every forum thread to their particular stressors?

Since you're doing it, can you offer the rest of us some insight? :)

hubris?
Anybody have any idea what the carbon footprint would be for typing the word, "hubris" into a forum posting*?

 

* Not to mention those that have to Google it to get the definition and that of us who feel we need to respond to it!

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