last 60cx update nixed sensitivity

[+EraSeek]

I have noticed every time now since the last update to my 60cx (4.00/3.00) that it is no longer any good in the woods. I can't get a signal anymore. The Oregon400t is doing fine (3.20/3.70), but they have screwed up the sensitivity of the 60cx.

[+larryc43230]

I have noticed every time now since the last update to my 60cx (4.00/3.00) that it is no longer any good in the woods. I can't get a signal anymore. The Oregon400t is doing fine (3.20/3.70), but they have screwed up the sensitivity of the 60cx.

This certainly isn't the case with my 60CSx. I applied the update when it first came out, and I haven't noticed any decrease in general sensitivity, in or out of the woods.

 

--Larry

[+Prime Suspect]

I don't see any difference either. You might want to do a reset, and reload the almanac data.

[+candum]

I uploaded the latest chipset to my 60CSX about 2 months ago. Ever since then the gps is way off and it used to be pretty good. Now when I'm approaching a cache it will suddenly go from 40 feet away to 200 feet away to 75 feet away, etc. Now I can only find caches that are in really obvious spots or I have to spend forever in a big search area. Does anybody know how I can get it fixed?

[or-tracker]

I uploaded the latest chipset to my 60CSX about 2 months ago. Ever since then the gps is way off and it used to be pretty good. Now when I'm approaching a cache it will suddenly go from 40 feet away to 200 feet away to 75 feet away, etc. Now I can only find caches that are in really obvious spots or I have to spend forever in a big search area. Does anybody know how I can get it fixed?

If your 60csx is sirf version you can revert to last successful firmware 3.7/2.9. I did so and now very happy with sensitivity and accuracy. 2GB uSD limit is not problem for me.

[+Okiebryan]

I had the same problem. I did a hard reset and deleted all the data from the unit. Now it works fine, but I'm still finding default settings that I forgot to change.

[+EraSeek]

I uploaded the latest chipset to my 60CSX about 2 months ago. Ever since then the gps is way off and it used to be pretty good. Now when I'm approaching a cache it will suddenly go from 40 feet away to 200 feet away to 75 feet away, etc. Now I can only find caches that are in really obvious spots or I have to spend forever in a big search area. Does anybody know how I can get it fixed?

If your 60csx is sirf version you can revert to last successful firmware 3.7/2.9. I did so and now very happy with sensitivity and accuracy. 2GB uSD limit is not problem for me.

Where do I get the old 3.7/2.9?

[+ras_oscar]

With all the postings concerning problems experienced following upgrades, why would someone update a GPSr that was working fine? Just because Garmin decides to change the software doesn't mean we need to use it right?

[+Prime Suspect]

With all the postings concerning problems experienced following upgrades, why would someone update a GPSr that was working fine? Just because Garmin decides to change the software doesn't mean we need to use it right?

You do realize that only the tiny percentage of people who had a problem with the upgrade are going to complain about it, right?

[or-tracker]

Where do I get the old 3.7/2.9?

http://www.gawisp.com/perry/chipset_firmwa...etTypeG_290.exe

http://www.gawisp.com/perry/gps60/GPSMAP60CSx_370.exe

Before reverting backup all your data!!

Edited October 27, 2009 by or-tracker

[seldom_sn]

With all the postings concerning problems experienced following upgrades, why would someone update a GPSr that was working fine? Just because Garmin decides to change the software doesn't mean we need to use it right?

4.x firmware supports 4GB MicroSD chips. My old 60CSX is running firmware 4.00/3.00s. No problems to report. Updated online using WebUpdater. Users have reported problems installing software updates from the download site. Update to newer versions preserves your unit settings. If you want to revert to earlier versions, you will lose your settings, so be sure to back up anything you want to keep.

[+Wee Be Team]

Can someone tell me how to tell which version I am running on my 60csx. Where do I find this info out.

[Forkeye]

Go into setup,then system,then push menu once,scroll down to software version,push enter.

[+Bodaway]

My unit is only a month old and has 4.0 on it.

 

I am having similar issues, I cannot pinpoint any caches, they have all been way off compared to people that I am caching with.

 

If I revert to an older version of firmware, should I remove my micro sd card so that I do not have to re-load mapping software?

 

Or will it ride out the firmware change?

[or-tracker]

My unit is only a month old and has 4.0 on it.

I am having similar issues, I cannot pinpoint any caches, they have all been way off compared to people that I am caching with.

If I revert to an older version of firmware, should I remove my micro sd card so that I do not have to re-load mapping software?

Or will it ride out the firmware change?

I think to remove micro sd card is not necessary, but if you worried about it, remove. Be sure to back up all your data, waypoints, tracks, routes and etc. Be sure that your 60csx is sirf version, because if it is MTK version, you cannot revert to 3.7/2.9 .

Edited October 27, 2009 by or-tracker

[+Prime Suspect]

My unit is only a month old and has 4.0 on it.

 

I am having similar issues, I cannot pinpoint any caches, they have all been way off compared to people that I am caching with.

 

If I revert to an older version of firmware, should I remove my micro sd card so that I do not have to re-load mapping software?

 

Or will it ride out the firmware change?

It's more likely to be something else, such as:

 

Have you check that you're using the correct datum?

 

Do you have WAAS turned off?

 

Do you have Battery Saver turned on?

 

Did you get a full almanac download?

[+humboldt flier]

My unit is only a month old and has 4.0 on it.

 

I am having similar issues, I cannot pinpoint any caches, they have all been way off compared to people that I am caching with.

 

If I revert to an older version of firmware, should I remove my micro sd card so that I do not have to re-load mapping software?

 

Or will it ride out the firmware change?

It's more likely to be something else, such as:

 

Have you check that you're using the correct datum?

 

Do you have WAAS turned off?

 

Do you have Battery Saver turned on?

 

Did you get a full almanac download?

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?? Last time you calibrated the compass ?? A simple compass re-cal might be in order. FWIW

[+Prime Suspect]

?? Last time you calibrated the compass ?? A simple compass re-cal might be in order. FWIW

No, the compass has nothing to do with GPS accuracy.

[+candum]

Tell me more about WAAS please. I had it enabled and I'm going to try disabling it. Does it screw up the accuracy and make it jumpy when you are trying to narrow your search?

[Suscrofa]

I am always amazed how can people issue definitive statement like this topic title while so many other parameters may be the cause !

[or-tracker]

I am always amazed how can people issue definitive statement like this topic title while so many other parameters may be the cause !

It's only my own experience. The gps by me is used in the city not often, especially in large, with tall buildings and narrow streets, but the result I got greatly surprised:

1. Firmware 4.0/3.0: track rides on the roofs of houses

2. 4.0/2.90: track jumps but slightly less

3. 3.70/2.90: - almost no jumps!!!

Time between testings is the same up to 5 minutes, the state of the sky (clouds, etc.) roughly the same, route the same.

These results is the main reason why I reverted to 3.70/2.90.

[Suscrofa]

I am always amazed how can people issue definitive statement like this topic title while so many other parameters may be the cause !

It's only my own experience. The gps by me is used in the city not often, especially in large, with tall buildings and narrow streets, but the result I got greatly surprised:

1. Firmware 4.0/3.0: track rides on the roofs of houses

2. 4.0/2.90: track jumps but slightly less

3. 3.70/2.90: - almost no jumps!!!

Time between testings is the same up to 5 minutes, the state of the sky (clouds, etc.) roughly the same, route the same.

These results is the main reason why I reverted to 3.70/2.90.

 

Tests 5 min apart ?

 

If there was a real issue, many more people would have noticed it ! I have 4.0/3.0 and no problem ! But I don't expect to have good results when the satellites geometry is poor and not many in sights. Did you check that ?

 

And tracks have always been jumpy in poor condition like in cities. SIgnal is blocked and bounce in an erratic manner.

[+Bodaway]

My unit is only a month old and has 4.0 on it.

 

I am having similar issues, I cannot pinpoint any caches, they have all been way off compared to people that I am caching with.

 

If I revert to an older version of firmware, should I remove my micro sd card so that I do not have to re-load mapping software?

 

Or will it ride out the firmware change?

It's more likely to be something else, such as:

 

Have you check that you're using the correct datum?

 

Do you have WAAS turned off?

 

Do you have Battery Saver turned on?

 

Did you get a full almanac download?

 

Sorry for the late reply, I was out of town working.

 

Forgive my ignorance on a couple of these items, but I have not heard of them before.

 

Also, I hope this is not too much of a hijack from the OP's question and that they will get some useful information out of it as well.

 

I don't know what is and isn't a correct datum. I have heard that term, but don't know what it is.

 

WAAS is Enabled. Is it more accurate to have it disabled?

 

Battery Saver is turned off. The GPS is in Normal mode. (I saw that tip in another thread).

 

This is the first time I have heard the term "full almanac download". Not sure if I got it or not.

 

edit to add: I calibrate the compass almost every time I go to the field.

 

Thanks

Edited October 29, 2009 by Bodaway

[+Bodaway]

bump for more information

[+semajsirhc]

WAAS should give way more increased sensitivity.

 

Think of the satellites tracking you from space and how accurate they can be - 15 meters or so.

 

Now we add the assistance of ground based stations that help the space based and bam! We should see accuracy as close as 3 meters.

 

WAAS should make your position almost 5 times more accurate. I'm not sure how disabling this is going to enhance accuracy..

 

 

If it were me I would leave it enabled.

Edited November 10, 2009 by semajsirhc