2009 Great SA TB Race

August 31, 2009

I tried my best to keep “DiePienaars” coin back for the other racers to move ahead, but it seems the coin just won’t give up…..

2.3k · August 31, 2009

I tried my best to keep “DiePienaars” coin back for the other racers to move ahead, but it seems the coin just won’t give up…..

Now we won't mention the connection will we?

August 31, 2009

I was never involved. Only a innocent bystander passing a coin. Gerhard

September 1, 2009

Just a quick hint for the racers :blink: …..if a TB is in the sandpit area this coming weekend, it will score lots of FTF bonus points with the Noddy challenge.

4.2k · September 1, 2009

the Gauteng Spring Bash seemed like a TB Racer reunion too - a good few were placed there.

Thanks for the points update cincol - really happy to see my racer getting dsome good points this month.

Thanks iPajero in particular for the movement and photos this month.

September 1, 2009

cincol....forgive me but I'm really CONFUSED!! I've been told that there will be no points for a Racer that attends an Event???? Huh??? Okay, as you know I'm not the brightest spark around, but I've re-read the rules and it says nothing about the Racers being taken to Events and back home again with the same cacher. The rules state that the Racer will earn 3 points for attending an Event - PERIOD!!!! That is why we made an extra special effort to drive all the way to the Tswaing Event in July, so that the Racers in our possession could benefit some points - even if they were just 3 points. Now I'm told "no dipping allowed of a Racer in an Event"???? When did the rules change??? How can a TB be dipped into an Event anyway, when there isn't even a physical cache there? I don't remember reading anything about a Racer needing to be left in an Event to be picked up by someone else! Are you changing the rules here and there to suit some people?? If yes, please could you communicate it or make things clear? We were never told that we were not earning points for the Racers when we attended the Event in July. :blink:

2.3k · September 1, 2009

I think the rules explain the situation. Let's go through what you have said.

1. You can be told anything by anybody. The rules that were set on the web page will apply despite what anybody might tell you.

2. Correct - 3 points will be earned for attending an Event.

3. The racers in your possession at the Event did earn their points for attending the Event. There were 5 if I remember correctly.

4. Correct - no dipping is allowed. See Note # 7. Any bugs "dipped" in and out of caches will forfeit those points. ie: NO dipping will be allowed at all. This also applies to multiple moves by any 1 cacher. A bug may only be moved ONCE by any cacher. An owner therefore may move his own bug, but only once.

What does this mean then? Essentially if a TB is "dipped" then it will loose the points for that cache [1 point] plus ANY SUBSEQUENT points that would have been earned until that cacher places it. In other words, if a single cacher dips a TB into 3 consecutive caches and then places it into the 4th cache it will only start earning points again from the time it is next retrieved. What that boils down to is that the cache and mileage points will not be earned.

I endeavour to apply the rules consistently and fairly as far as possible. At the end of the day we need as few interpretations as possible and as little ambiguity as possible. There might be a slip up here and there - as we had in the biginning where I was not getting notifications from GC.com - but I think those little hiccups have been sorted out. Now it seems that only the rules pop up from time to time.

At the end of the day all I want to happen is that the TB's travel as far as possible with as few hassles as possible. If I can help the competitive spirit of the cachers out there to enjoy the experience a little more then I have achieved my goal. I hope that this clears the confusion.

September 1, 2009

I think the rules explain the situation. Let's go through what you have said.

1. You can be told anything by anybody. The rules that were set on the web page will apply despite what anybody might tell you.

2. Correct - 3 points will be earned for attending an Event.

3. The racers in your possession at the Event did earn their points for attending the Event. There were 5 if I remember correctly.

4. Correct - no dipping is allowed. See Note # 7. Any bugs "dipped" in and out of caches will forfeit those points. ie: NO dipping will be allowed at all. This also applies to multiple moves by any 1 cacher. A bug may only be moved ONCE by any cacher. An owner therefore may move his own bug, but only once.

What does this mean then? Essentially if a TB is "dipped" then it will loose the points for that cache [1 point] plus ANY SUBSEQUENT points that would have been earned until that cacher places it. In other words, if a single cacher dips a TB into 3 consecutive caches and then places it into the 4th cache it will only start earning points again from the time it is next retrieved. What that boils down to is that the cache and mileage points will not be earned.

I endeavour to apply the rules consistently and fairly as far as possible. At the end of the day we need as few interpretations as possible and as little ambiguity as possible. There might be a slip up here and there - as we had in the biginning where I was not getting notifications from GC.com - but I think those little hiccups have been sorted out. Now it seems that only the rules pop up from time to time.

At the end of the day all I want to happen is that the TB's travel as far as possible with as few hassles as possible. If I can help the competitive spirit of the cachers out there to enjoy the experience a little more then I have achieved my goal. I hope that this clears the confusion.

Okay, thanks cincol. That is how I understood the rules. So if a bug gets taken to an Event, 3 points will be earned. Irrespective of whether the bug is dropped off and picked up by the same cacher?

2.3k · September 1, 2009

Okay, thanks cincol. That is how I understood the rules. So if a bug gets taken to an Event, 3 points will be earned. Irrespective of whether the bug is dropped off and picked up by the same cacher?

Yes, but remember it WILL forfeit the next move if it is retrieved from the Event by the same cacher. However, if somebody happens to grab it then it will be OK. :blink:

September 1, 2009

Just a quick hint for the racers wink.gif wink.gif …..if a TB is in the sandpit area this coming weekend, it will score lots of FTF bonus points with the Noddy challenge.

Aargh. You were not suppose to let it out. I just hope someone keeps his promise about my coin over there. [ :blink: ]

1.1k · September 2, 2009

The monthly breakdown of the scores are on the race pages.

http://www.sageostats.co.za/tbrace/index.php?type=Score

1.1k · September 2, 2009

We are almost done with 25% of the race, and looks like we are on track to make the distance to the moon, by the end of the race. Keeping my fingers crossed.

4.2k · September 3, 2009

Wow - lookign at the race stats page - did you see JustinDett's coin - it has raced from 45 in Jun - to 33rd in Jul and now at 2nd.

Well done.

September 3, 2009

Wow - lookign at the race stats page - did you see JustinDett's coin - it has raced from 45 in Jun - to 33rd in Jul and now at 2nd.

Well done.

That's what happens when the TB owner looks after his/her Racer!

2.3k · September 3, 2009

That's what happens when the TB owner looks after his/her Racer!

That's what happens when it suddenly lands up in Australia!

September 3, 2009

Duplicate

Edited September 3, 2009 by DiePienaars

September 3, 2009

Don’t miss The Gold Diggers Free State Ferrari, with those 500 points it can retire and still win the race.

September 3, 2009

That's what happens when the TB owner looks after his/her Racer!

That's what happens when it suddenly lands up in Australia!

Yes - that is what I mean! When a Racer gets into the hands of the owner (or the owner's friends), it will earn lots of points!

2.3k · September 3, 2009

Don’t miss The Gold Diggers Free State Ferrari, with those 500 points it can retire and still win the race.

Only until the next TB arrives in Canada or the USA! Then the playing fields are level again. Believe me, a couple of the SA racers are suddenly up there amongst the overseas boys this month. I think it is going to be be VERY interesting come end September.

September 4, 2009

Just a question from our side, with regards to the bonus points for September. The bonus points just indicate that 15 points will be earned for each racer that "attends" and is photographed at an Earthcache. Does this mean that one cacher, can visit 6 different Earthcaches in the month of September and earn 90 points for the racer?

Also, by "national parks" do you mean the South African National Parks (SANParks) or any national park - like those in KZN (enzemvelo) and places like Pilanesberg, etc.?

September 4, 2009

As I understand it, the Earth Cache visited must be the first visit to it as well. Because one must add the answer sheet and the link of the find-log to the e-mail sent to Cincol. So I would guess that if the cacher can do 6 new Earth caches in the month and tag the TB along - it is valid.

I've just returned from spending a wonderful few days at Sun City and the Pilanesberg and snapped "Travel in Style" there. In my eyes, this is definately a SA National Park - although not part of SAN Parks.

...yes, that yellow spot IS the car!!

Edited September 4, 2009 by Team Ginger

2.3k · September 4, 2009

Just a question from our side, with regards to the bonus points for September. The bonus points just indicate that 15 points will be earned for each racer that "attends" and is photographed at an Earthcache. Does this mean that one cacher, can visit 6 different Earthcaches in the month of September and earn 90 points for the racer?

Also, by "national parks" do you mean the South African National Parks (SANParks) or any national park - like those in KZN (enzemvelo) and places like Pilanesberg, etc.?

EARTHCACHES

This is a special incentive for September and for SA EarthCaches only. See the note on discretionary Bonus points - 15 points for a photo of a TB at any SA EarthCache. Needs to be substantiated with a photo of the TB at the EC site with the EC log. Link to be provided to cincol for scoring.

NATIONAL PARKS

Same applies here - this is a special incentive for September and for any SA National Parks only. 15 points for any TB with a photo showing proof of being at a SA National Park - sign

Nothing sinister at all - every month there are special bonus points and those who untilize the incentive for the month will benifit.

Good luck to all.

September 5, 2009

Just a question from our side, with regards to the bonus points for September. The bonus points just indicate that 15 points will be earned for each racer that "attends" and is photographed at an Earthcache. Does this mean that one cacher, can visit 6 different Earthcaches in the month of September and earn 90 points for the racer?

Also, by "national parks" do you mean the South African National Parks (SANParks) or any national park - like those in KZN (enzemvelo) and places like Pilanesberg, etc.?

EARTHCACHES

This is a special incentive for September and for SA EarthCaches only. See the note on discretionary Bonus points - 15 points for a photo of a TB at any SA EarthCache. Needs to be substantiated with a photo of the TB at the EC site with the EC log. Link to be provided to cincol for scoring.

NATIONAL PARKS

Same applies here - this is a special incentive for September and for any SA National Parks only. 15 points for any TB with a photo showing proof of being at a SA National Park - sign

Nothing sinister at all - every month there are special bonus points and those who untilize the incentive for the month will benifit.

Good luck to all.

Thanks cincol. We just wanted to make sure that the same geocacher can earn points at multple earthcaches for a racer. In other words, the racer will not be penalised for points because the same person has done all the earthcaches, etc. So if a Racer earns 150 points just for Earthcaches in September, then it will be awarded those points regardless if the same geocacher earned them?

2.3k · September 6, 2009

As I understand it, the Earth Cache visited must be the first visit to it as well. Because one must add the answer sheet and the link of the find-log to the e-mail sent to Cincol. So I would guess that if the cacher can do 6 new Earth caches in the month and tag the TB along - it is valid.

Correct - and wazat needs to take note! :anibad: :laughing: :anitongue:

2.3k · September 6, 2009

Thanks cincol. We just wanted to make sure that the same geocacher can earn points at multple earthcaches for a racer. In other words, the racer will not be penalised for points because the same person has done all the earthcaches, etc. So if a Racer earns 150 points just for Earthcaches in September, then it will be awarded those points regardless if the same geocacher earned them?

Correct - see post above in reply to Team Ginger. One thing that needs to be noted is that NO milage will acrue and neither will caches visited count - ONLY the EC bonus points will be earned.

So far a few cachers have made use of these deiscretionary points and there are going to be some big changes to positions at the end of this month! :anitongue:

TB RACE OWNERS PLEASE NOTE

There will be NO mid-month positions given this month. A cautionary notice :laughing: is also hereby posted that the month end scores and posts MIGHT be delayed a few days. I leave early Tuesday for a short holiday :anibad: in Hong Kong and Australia [caching as far as possible obviously] and will only be returning 29 Sptember. Although I will have my laptop with me there will be limited internet coverage while I am away.

Please continue with the photograph nominations and submit then either on the forum or directly to DamhuisClan.

Happy caching and good luck to all the racers for the month of September.

4.2k · September 7, 2009

Enmjoy the holiday cincol.

BTW: I see my TB has just hit it's 5th province. Anyone else up there in the reckoning for the 9 Province bonus points?

September 7, 2009

Have a great holiday cincol - we hope you enjoy yourself!

Just a quick question.....will you be allowing a few days grace with the entries for September. I'm just referring to the Earthcaches and other things. If we go to caches on the 30th September, we will need a day or two to get our responses and logs together. Also, we will be going away and we are not certain of the internet coverage and would only be able to get our logs done the first weekend of October. So even though we would do the cache in September, the logs would only be able to be sent in on 3/4 October. Please let us know? Thanks!!

2.3k · September 7, 2009

Have a great holiday cincol - we hope you enjoy yourself!

Just a quick question.....will you be allowing a few days grace with the entries for September. I'm just referring to the Earthcaches and other things. If we go to caches on the 30th September, we will need a day or two to get our responses and logs together. Also, we will be going away and we are not certain of the internet coverage and would only be able to get our logs done the first weekend of October. So even though we would do the cache in September, the logs would only be able to be sent in on 3/4 October. Please let us know? Thanks!!

The date that is logged as the date the cache was visited is the date that I will work with - even if it is sent in late as EC's need to be verified by the owner first and this could take time. That is the reason that I require the link to the log for EC points. You will get the points due, even if they are only allocated in the following month.

September 7, 2009

Have a great holiday cincol - we hope you enjoy yourself!

Just a quick question.....will you be allowing a few days grace with the entries for September. I'm just referring to the Earthcaches and other things. If we go to caches on the 30th September, we will need a day or two to get our responses and logs together. Also, we will be going away and we are not certain of the internet coverage and would only be able to get our logs done the first weekend of October. So even though we would do the cache in September, the logs would only be able to be sent in on 3/4 October. Please let us know? Thanks!!

The date that is logged as the date the cache was visited is the date that I will work with - even if it is sent in late as EC's need to be verified by the owner first and this could take time. That is the reason that I require the link to the log for EC points. You will get the points due, even if they are only allocated in the following month.

Okay great - thanks cincol!! We will try to stop pestering you so that you can pack in peace for you holiday!

1.1k · September 13, 2009

The first nominations are in, and nominated by iPajero.

Nomination 1:

Nomination 2:

September 18, 2009

We nominate the following photos for September:

Still checking some more bugs....

Edited September 18, 2009 by GEO936

September 18, 2009

Another September PotM nomination:

September 22, 2009

Some more Photo of the Month nominations:

We forgot to add our comments for our previous nominations! So here goes for the latest ones:

We liked this one - reminds us of relaxed, fishing holidays....

This is such a cute bunny - look at his ears! Must be the European version...

At least this cacher made an effort with a photo - pretty fish bowl, like we had when we were kids....

We loved this one!! Some original thinking, much like the one that GreenJaM did in the first month of the race and it won the competition!!

Good luck to all the Racers!

Edited September 22, 2009 by GEO936

2.3k · September 29, 2009

ATTENTION RACE OWNERS

First things first - I have 197 individual moves of racers to work through. Hopefully it will not take me too long to do. Please bare with me and I should have the September results up by the weekend.

Secondly, here are the discretionary bonus points for October.

5 points for any TB visiting any SA cache name containing H, F or 2

15 points for any TB visiting a North West Province cache

15 points for any TB with a photo showing proof of being at a SA National Park - sign

20 points for any TB visiting a cache in Port Elizabeth / Grahamstown / East London

10 points for any TB visiting a SA cache name containing an animal / bird name

Good luck and happy racing.

8.6k · September 29, 2009

... 20 points for any TB visiting a cache in Port Elizabeth / Grahamstown / East London

I guess that "visiting a cache in Port Elizabeth" doesn't include a TB that's been sitting there in a cache since early July?

Yep, my Welsh Rugby Union keyring has stalled. I've tried a pleading email to the cache owner Ravenmeistre, asking him to take pity on it and move it on for me, but no response.

It's time to try my charms on ecurb h, the cacher who placed it there, to see if he can help.

September 29, 2009

Another nomination. This is an awesome shot!! Wow!

Edited September 29, 2009 by GEO936

September 29, 2009

Nomination - Nice view of a new city in the Race - Hong Kong!

September 29, 2009

I have a question regarding the rules pertaining to grabbing or virtually retrieving and dropping a TB.

Here is the situation... One of my TB's was recently retrieved by a fellow cacher in a different cache from the one it is reported to be in. On checking the logs it would appear the TB was retrieved by a noobie cacher and placed in the second cache, without logging it on the TB page. I have attempted to contacted the noob with no response.

So my questions is, can I virtually retrieve it from the cache and place it in the second one, so that the cacher that now physically has it can log the find and move it along without any penalty?

September 29, 2009

Oops, double post

Edited September 29, 2009 by MnCo

2.3k · September 30, 2009

I have a question regarding the rules pertaining to grabbing or virtually retrieving and dropping a TB.

Here is the situation... One of my TB's was recently retrieved by a fellow cacher in a different cache from the one it is reported to be in. On checking the logs it would appear the TB was retrieved by a noobie cacher and placed in the second cache, without logging it on the TB page. I have attempted to contacted the noob with no response.

So my questions is, can I virtually retrieve it from the cache and place it in the second one, so that the cacher that now physically has it can log the find and move it along without any penalty?

I presume you are referring to "The Big Five" TB. I will concur with Besem [the current holder] that you wait a while as the cacher may still log it in. If, after a week or so and no response to any e-mails, I would suggest that you contact me, as the administrator, and I will log it in and out of the original cache GC1M0VV. That way we can keep it all above board and not create situations where it could be construed that something unfair is happening. In the meanwhile you can let Besem know that he can place it - the mileage will automatically be updated when the correction is made - even afterweards.

4.2k · September 30, 2009

Glad to have you back in circulation cincol. Hope you had a good trip.

September 30, 2009

I presume you are referring to "The Big Five" TB. I will concur with Besem [the current holder] that you wait a while as the cacher may still log it in. If, after a week or so and no response to any e-mails, I would suggest that you contact me, as the administrator, and I will log it in and out of the original cache GC1M0VV. That way we can keep it all above board and not create situations where it could be construed that something unfair is happening. In the meanwhile you can let Besem know that he can place it - the mileage will automatically be updated when the correction is made - even afterweards.

Thanks cincol,

I didn't realise besem had already been in contact with you. I'll wait a while longer and send another email in the meantime.

September 30, 2009

Glad to have you back in circulation cincol. Hope you had a good trip.

Agreed!! Welcome back from your break! Glad to have you back.

2.3k · September 30, 2009

Glad to have you back in circulation cincol. Hope you had a good trip.

Agreed!! Welcome back from your break! Glad to have you back.

Thanks a lot guys. Didn't know that you missed me! It is great to be home again.

Quite frankly the Australians can keep Australia!! I have seen enough gum trees to last me 2 lifetimes and believe me, the SA caches do not need to stand back from the Australian ones when it comes to quality of placement and the locations. Most caches are placed "just because they can" - not my cup of tea. Almost every cache that had a TB indicated was without the TB! Seems as though nobody really worries about them. That said, we did meet a great bunch of cachers at an Event that they put on for us there - they went to a lot of trouble and even supplied the food - a barbie!

The quality of caches in Hong Kong was terrible. 90% are micros and most are in pretty dodgy places. OTOH they do not really have a lot of places to place caches due to the population density of the place.

On another issue, I have managed to get the race scores up to date and will publish them tonight. There are a few interesting developments that have occured this month and the positions look very different to last month.

Watch this space.

4.2k · October 1, 2009

- a barbie!

A barbie - isn't that something you get when you drink too much beer or red wine at a BRAAI?

1.1k · October 1, 2009

Darn, I thought a "barbie" was it was a small slender/anorexic doll girls play with.

2.3k · October 2, 2009

Darn, I thought a "barbie" was it was a small slender/anorexic doll girls play with.

Yeah - it is also something them Aussies THINK is related to a braai, but done with gas!! Yuc! Didn't see any wood BRAAIS there - everything is gas.

2.3k · October 2, 2009

MONTH END - SEPTEMBER

All scores as at midnight 30-09-09

TOP 15 OVERALL

1. Cacheachu

2. The gold diggers free state Ferrari

3. DiePienaars N.Ireland Racing Coin

4. Leopardo

5. 2009 Great SA TB Race - Flags of the World Post Card

6. JustinDett's Tools of the Trade Geocoin

7. 2009 SA Bug Racer - The Capital TB

8. Love Bug

9. Eager Beaver Fever

10. Sir Henry Morgan Pirate of the Caribbean

11. Zulu Love Letter TB

12. Mom's Marathon Racer

13. BruceTP's 2009 Great SA TB Race Medallion

14. Priceless Geocaching

14. Bouncing Smiley TB

OVERSEAS RACERS

1. The gold diggers free state Ferrari

2. Leopardo

3. 2009 Great SA TB Race - Flags of the World Post Card

4. JustinDett's Tools of the Trade Geocoin

5. Eager Beaver Fever

6. Jemma's Green Gem

TOP 10 SOUTH AFRICAN RACERS

1. Cacheachu

2. DiePienaars N.Ireland Racing Coin

3. 2009 SA Bug Racer - The Capital TB

4. Love Bug

5. Sir Henry Morgan Pirate of the Caribbean

6. Zulu Love Letter TB

7. Mom's Marathon Racer

8. BruceTP's 2009 Great SA TB Race Medallion

9. Priceless Geocaching

10. Bouncing Smiley TB

PHOTO OF THE MONTH WINNER

BruceTP's 2009 Great SA TB Race Medallion [Photo taken by Capricorns77]

1.1k · October 2, 2009

Ill update the scores on the race pages on Sunday or Monday.

2.3k · October 3, 2009

OCTOBER DISCRETIONARY BONUS POINTS

Here are the discretionary points starting midnight 30/09/2009. I forgot to put them up on Wednesday - apologies.

5 points for any TB visiting any SA cache name containing H, F or 2

15 points for any TB visiting a North West Province cache

15 points for any TB with a photo showing proof of being at a SA National Park - sign

20 points for any TB visiting a cache in Port Elizabeth / Grahamstown / East London

10 points for any TB visiting a SA cache name containing an animal / bird name

Good luck racers and happy travels.

2009 Great SA TB Race

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