+Strike Anywhere Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 I am trying place a GEOCACHE. I am kitty corner to a scholl playground with the school .15 from that. TH school playground is about 250 feet away. What consitutes near. We have a famous cacher in our area that placed a micro about 10 feet from the door of a kindergarten. Was it grandfathered? No but it was allowed? Can someone help me out? Its a great spot in the base of a stop sign and not near anything except my house. Just trying to get some idea of whats really what. Sorry if this is already posted somewhere but couldnt find it... Thanks... Never Lost In Him Link to comment
bogleman Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 My comfort level would be over 500 feet from any (clearly defined) school - as a person seeking a cache and as a concerned parent Link to comment
+Bad_CRC Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 good photo, that makes it easy to say " hell no!" just consider that it's a playground within clear view, now consider dozens of suspicious-looking people wandering back and forth across the street from it... see a problem yet? Link to comment
+TheManInStripes Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 good photo, that makes it easy to say " hell no!" just consider that it's a playground within clear view, now consider dozens of suspicious-looking people wandering back and forth across the street from it... see a problem yet? Not if all of those suspicious people stop at the sign, pull something out, sign it, put it back and go on their merry way. Link to comment
+El Diablo Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 Besides not understanding why you want to place a cache on the bottom of a stop sign...I don't see aproblem. El Diablo Link to comment
+adjensen Posted October 3, 2006 Share Posted October 3, 2006 Cue someone to ask why there isn't a Walmart with a light pole and/or dumpster in your town Seriously, though, the rule about being close to a school is there to keep you and the people looking for your cache from getting in dutch with the police and/or school officials, who wonder why there are all these people hanging around the play ground. The world is a big place, there are lots of cool locations that would be better cache locations. If you've got some sort of real need to put it next to the school, talk to the school officials, explain what you're doing and get permission. I think that, if you have express written permission, you can put the dang thing in the lunchroom if you want. Link to comment
+briansnat Posted October 3, 2006 Share Posted October 3, 2006 What is so compelling about this spot that the cache can't be move a few hundred feet away? If I were the reviewer I'd probably turn it down. Too close. Link to comment
+Strike Anywhere Posted October 3, 2006 Author Share Posted October 3, 2006 Thanks for the help !!! Can we kill this now that I feel like more of an idiot??? My reason was that its right near my house and I had a new idea to make it easy to get Trackables to far off lands and get much mileage - I have many contacts with people who go all over the world and was making a hotel as such to get them moving elsewhere instead of just caching around from hole to hole in Philly. Anyways... Thanks for all the input - I feel dumb but what should I do with the one that I just cached myself and it was right in front of a school door? Do I alert anyone or just call it whatever... I felt like the evil guy lurking around at 9am when all the mothers were dropping off their kids... I have 3 under 8 myself. Link to comment
+briansnat Posted October 3, 2006 Share Posted October 3, 2006 Anyways... Thanks for all the input - I feel dumb but what should I do with the one that I just cached myself and it was right in front of a school door? Do I alert anyone or just call it whatever... I felt like the evil guy lurking around at 9am when all the mothers were dropping off their kids... I have 3 under 8 myself. Which is precisely the reason they aren't allowed by schools. I'm sure the mothers were wondering who the heck you were and what you were doing there. The cache may be there with the permission of the school officials. If so, that would usually be mentioned on the page. If though, you feel that its a guideline violation, you can either log a "needs archived" explaining the situation, or send an e-mail to your reviewer to give him a heads up. There is a good chance he didn't know that there was a school there when it was reviewed. If the schools is not on the maps your reviewer looks at, there is a chance an inappropriate placement might slip by him. Link to comment
bkydmech Posted October 3, 2006 Share Posted October 3, 2006 Grade schools are a no no at any time. Playgrounds on the other hand, well, I did hunt a cache once at a play ground, but I brought my kids with me to play so I did not bring up suspicions. Link to comment
+Haffy Posted October 3, 2006 Share Posted October 3, 2006 (edited) Its a great spot in the base of a stop sign Just trying to get some idea of whats really what. Sorry if this is already posted somewhere but couldnt find it... Thanks... Never Lost In Him I wonder what would be so great as a spot at the base of a stop sign anyway? Edited October 3, 2006 by haffy Link to comment
+worldtraveler Posted October 3, 2006 Share Posted October 3, 2006 ...My reason was that its right near my house and I had a new idea to make it easy to get Trackables to far off lands and get much mileage... Welcome to geocaching, but PLEASE, on behalf of trackable owners everywhere, get a little more experience before you place a cache dedicated to that cause. The location you chose for this one may have been convenient for you, but it would have likely been a graveyard for any trackable unfortunate enough to have been placed there. In such a public location, any container large enough to hold most trackables would probably be found very quickly by non-cachers. Link to comment
+Kit Fox Posted October 3, 2006 Share Posted October 3, 2006 Thanks for the help !!! Can we kill this now that I feel like more of an idiot??? My reason was that its right near my house and I had a new idea to make it easy to get Trackables to far off lands and get much mileage - I have many contacts with people who go all over the world and was making a hotel as such to get them moving elsewhere instead of just caching around from hole to hole in Philly. Anyways... Thanks for all the input - I feel dumb but what should I do with the one that I just cached myself and it was right in front of a school door? Do I alert anyone or just call it whatever... I felt like the evil guy lurking around at 9am when all the mothers were dropping off their kids... I have 3 under 8 myself. Your spot is in full view of all the protective parents and curious kids. Kids would be all over the cache looking for treasures. The trackables would disappear at an alarming rate, and eventually would get blown up by the local bomb squad. I doubt the city wants a geocache attached to their Stop Sign. Read this for some useful ideas about cache placement. What would you think Ready to hide your first cache? Link to comment
+Strike Anywhere Posted October 3, 2006 Author Share Posted October 3, 2006 (edited) Okay - seriously this forum stuff is scary... please read them as I FEEL STUPID ALREADY - no need to keep rubbing it in... lets kill this deal... I may never forum again... Thanks - The trackables would have been taken out each and every day they were in there... it was clearly thought out but will never happen - LETS FINISH IT!!! I have seen plenty of microcaches on stop signs near places of interest... I will leave the "FORUMING" to all you experts and such... this has been an experiment in serious ego-busting fun!!! Thanks for love the fellow geocachers. Edited October 3, 2006 by Never Lost In Him Link to comment
+El Diablo Posted October 3, 2006 Share Posted October 3, 2006 Okay - seriously this forum stuff is scary... please read them as I FEEL STUPID ALREADY - no need to keep rubbing it in... lets kill this deal... I may never forum again... Thanks - The trackables would have been taken out each and every day they were in there... it was clearly thought out but will never happen - LETS FINISH IT!!! I have seen plenty of microcaches on stop signs near places of interest... I will leave the "FORUMING" to all you experts and such... this has been an experiment in serious ego-busting fun!!! Thanks for love the fellow geocachers. Well no one was trying to ego bust. Maybe use it as a learning experience? We have all had our chops busted in here. Don't take it personally. El Diablo Link to comment
+gof1 Posted October 3, 2006 Share Posted October 3, 2006 Please, do not feel like an "idiot"! Many of us had ideas we thought would be cool only to learn that they weren't. It is all part of the learning curve. Each and every one of us was the newbie at one time. Link to comment
+worldtraveler Posted October 3, 2006 Share Posted October 3, 2006 ... this has been an experiment in serious ego-busting fun!!! Thanks for love the fellow geocachers. As others have said, I wasn't trying to put you down. My suggestion came from my own well intended by ill conceived experience. You can see my "Hall of Shame" by clicking on this link. The caches with the red lines through them are my early mistakes. Hope this helps. Link to comment
+Clan Delaney Posted October 3, 2006 Share Posted October 3, 2006 Read this for some useful ideas about cache placement. What would you think Ready to hide your first cache? Those were some great articles. Thanks for linking! Never Lost In Him, don't get too put off. The forums can sometimes seem brash when you don't spend much time here. That being said, a frank response is a frank response. As for putting an end to this topic... I was going to point out that as the topic starter you have the power to close the topic. Buuuut, now that I'm looking for that option on topics I've started, I don't see it anymore. It should be a dropdown box at the bottom of this page... I guess it's my turn to get a frank response. Hmm. Link to comment
+El Diablo Posted October 3, 2006 Share Posted October 3, 2006 Read this for some useful ideas about cache placement. What would you think Ready to hide your first cache? As for putting an end to this topic... I was going to point out that as the topic starter you have the power to close the topic. Buuuut, now that I'm looking for that option on topics I've started, I don't see it anymore. It should be a dropdown box at the bottom of this page... I guess it's my turn to get a frank response. Hmm. Yes...that featured was discontinued because it was being abused. El Diablo Link to comment
+Harry Dolphin Posted October 3, 2006 Share Posted October 3, 2006 Dolphin is not noted for his visual acuity (even after cataract surgery), but those look a lot like railroad tracks? Caches not permitted near active rail lines. Link to comment
+rasj & Stacey Posted October 3, 2006 Share Posted October 3, 2006 ... this has been an experiment in serious ego-busting fun!!! Thanks for love the fellow geocachers. As others have said, I wasn't trying to put you down. My suggestion came from my own well intended by ill conceived experience. You can see my "Hall of Shame" by clicking on this link. The caches with the red lines through them are my early mistakes. Hope this helps. Hey you don't own my caches! I DO! I think the linky needs some work. It takes me to my own cache list. Link to comment
+worldtraveler Posted October 3, 2006 Share Posted October 3, 2006 (edited) Dolphin is not noted for his visual acuity (even after cataract surgery), but those look a lot like railroad tracks? Caches not permitted near active rail lines. Not sure what you would call them in the water, but they look more like what we call "crosswalks" on land (note the other one across the intersection). Edited October 3, 2006 by worldtraveler Link to comment
+gof1 Posted October 3, 2006 Share Posted October 3, 2006 Lets take up a collection to get Harry Dolphin a seeing eye guppy. Link to comment
+CYBret Posted October 3, 2006 Share Posted October 3, 2006 Honestly, there's no reason to feel like an idiot. We all start this game as newbies and the only experience we have is what we've seen from other cachers. If you've seen caches like the one you wanted to place then it's only natural that you would ask about it. Pay attention to the guidelines, keep working on your idea. I'm sure you'll do great. Closing this one at the owner's request. Bret Link to comment
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