+FireRef Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 I recently ran into another cacher, and shared the FTF for a new cache with her. We proceeded (with my dad, who was out for his first caching experience) along the trail to a second new cache, which was closer to the end that the other cacher had come from, so she had already found it. I searched about 3-4 minutes, and then found it myself. What is considered acceptable and not for being with someone when you know where the cache is, and they don't, or they know where it is and you don't? I guess I feel that someone who knows should offer if they are willing to give some help to finding it, but then again, i don't know how other people feel about this. I felt a little wierd asking, so I didn't, but I figured she might be willing to offer some help. I found it quickly enough to make it a pointless question however. What is everyone's feel on this? Should you offer (or withhold) helpful information if you're in the know? Can you ask (and expect to receive) for helpful information? I guess it is going to depend on how you choose to play the game. Quote Link to comment
+sbell111 Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 In general, one should not give unsolicited help. That being said, if one cacher offers assistance, the other cacher is free to accept it or not. Quote Link to comment
+BlueDeuce Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 I always ask. Did you want to look for it together? If I find it first do you want me to tell you? If you find it first, would you please tell me? Quote Link to comment
+jtd18801 Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 Choose your meathod. Huckle-Buckle-Beanstalk – A method of group caching, which takes its name from a classic children's game. When a member of the group spots the cache, they walk elsewhere (to not give away the cache's location), then call out, “huckle-buckle-beanstalk!” (or whatever word or phrase the group has decided on). This continues until everyone in the group has either spotted the cache, or given up, after which the cache is retrieved and logged. Compare this to the Three Musketeers method. Or Three Musketeers – A method of group cache hunting, which takes its name from the Musketeer motto, “All for one and one for all.” Unlike the Huckle-Buckle-Beanstalk method, as soon as one person in the group finds the cache, the hunt is over, and all members of the group log their find. Our club does the beanstalk meathod (inless we're late to get to the buses ) Quote Link to comment
+AuntieWeasel Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 She may have been reluctant to offer hints without being asked; some people would take offense at being helped, some at not being helped. My own personal method is to grasp the other cacher's ear gently between thumb and forefinger and hiss, "SHOW ME WHERE THE CACHE IS OR I'LL RIP YOUR EVERLOVING EAR RIGHT OFF YOUR HEAD, I SWEAR!!" You may wish to develop your own methods. Quote Link to comment
+FireRef Posted June 19, 2006 Author Share Posted June 19, 2006 She may have been reluctant to offer hints without being asked; some people would take offense at being helped, some at not being helped. My own personal method is to grasp the other cacher's ear gently between thumb and forefinger and hiss, "SHOW ME WHERE THE CACHE IS OR I'LL RIP YOUR EVERLOVING EAR RIGHT OFF YOUR HEAD, I SWEAR!!" You may wish to develop your own methods. Hmm - think I will choose another, less... physical method... haha Quote Link to comment
+Vinny & Sue Team Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 She may have been reluctant to offer hints without being asked; some people would take offense at being helped, some at not being helped. My own personal method is to grasp the other cacher's ear gently between thumb and forefinger and hiss, "SHOW ME WHERE THE CACHE IS OR I'LL RIP YOUR EVERLOVING EAR RIGHT OFF YOUR HEAD, I SWEAR!!" You may wish to develop your own methods. Ohhh! Moan! I love it! Another Auntie classic! You have made my day! Thank you! Quote Link to comment
+carleenp Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 She may have been reluctant to offer hints without being asked; some people would take offense at being helped, some at not being helped. My own personal method is to grasp the other cacher's ear gently between thumb and forefinger and hiss, "SHOW ME WHERE THE CACHE IS OR I'LL RIP YOUR EVERLOVING EAR RIGHT OFF YOUR HEAD, I SWEAR!!" You may wish to develop your own methods. My method is to look sad and ask for hints, and then whine if needed. I like your way better though! As long as I am not on the receiving end.... Quote Link to comment
+Stunod Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 (edited) Huckle-Buckle-Beanstalk – A method of group caching, which takes its name from a classic children's game. When a member of the group spots the cache, they walk elsewhere (to not give away the cache's location), then call out, "huckle-buckle-beanstalk!" (or whatever word or phrase the group has decided on). This continues until everyone in the group has either spotted the cache, or given up, after which the cache is retrieved and logged. We use a similar method called the S.E.G. Once you find it you step aside and proceed to sport a huge Grin. Edited June 20, 2006 by Stunod Quote Link to comment
+Corp Of Discovery Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 Huckle-Buckle-Beanstalk – A method of group caching, which takes its name from a classic children's game. When a member of the group spots the cache, they walk elsewhere (to not give away the cache's location), then call out, "huckle-buckle-beanstalk!" (or whatever word or phrase the group has decided on). This continues until everyone in the group has either spotted the cache, or given up, after which the cache is retrieved and logged. We use a similar method called the S.E.G. Once you find it you step aside and proceed to sport a huge Grin. Quote Link to comment
CoyoteRed Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 Our phrase is "Rattle-rattle" as that is the sound an ammo can makes when it hoisted and shaken over one's head. Of course, by doing so you've robbed the other a chance to find it themselves, so you move off and announce, "rattle-rattle." I think it's been half and half with the group we've been caching with as to which method we've used. I personally don't mind either, but I know some don't appreciate not being the one to find it for themselves. Heck, even with the same group we mind switch back and forth on methods. So, yes, it's always polite to ask before assuming folks like to be told the twist of a movie or the ending of a book, just like the end-game of a cache. Quote Link to comment
+briansnat Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 Huckle-Buckle-Beanstalk – A method of group caching, which takes its name from a classic children's game. When a member of the group spots the cache, they walk elsewhere (to not give away the cache's location), then call out, "huckle-buckle-beanstalk!" (or whatever word or phrase the group has decided on). This continues until everyone in the group has either spotted the cache, or given up, after which the cache is retrieved and logged. We use a similar method called the S.E.G. Once you find it you step aside and proceed to sport a huge Grin. We call it "having a cup of coffeee", as in "I know where it is, so I'm going to sit down and have a cup of coffee while I enjoy the entertainment". Quote Link to comment
+Zzyzx Road Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 We do a combo of the Rattle Rattle vs the Three Muscateers...If my daughter is along, (with her own account) we do the spot it and walk away method. Otherwise, if it is an especially hard one, my cousin and I will combine forces and once found the hunt is over. We often have these Zen days where I will be the spotter of ALL caches and she works the GPS. Other days she can't get the GPS to work and spots everything before I do. Depends on the cache really, some are really easy and exactly where you think they are, and others use a little brain power. That brain power we seem to not have consistently enough to both be able to spot the cache easily. It comes and goes, so we trade off... Quote Link to comment
+Jhwk Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 find, walk away, then yell "FOUND IT!" of course then there are the inevitable snickers as the other cachers grow more frustrated with each passing moment. Quote Link to comment
+Sean Connery Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 Instead of huckle-huckle-beanstalk, we use "the finder's tree". You spot the cache, move off to a neighboring tree and yell "finders tree. However, when it is just one other cacher or family, I always ask if they want help or not. Quote Link to comment
+edscott Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 We usually walk away a few feet, plant our walking stick in the ground, and say OK come get it. If it is in a particularly tough spot like a swamp full of thorns, snakes, ticks, and alligators on an extra humid day at dusk 5 miles from the car we may just say "come sign this thing and let's get outa here". Quote Link to comment
+nctreker Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 It usually is determined by the make up of the group. If kids are along I'll always move away and let them make the find. If its a group of adults most often someone shouts out when they've found it. The corollary to any hunt is if the container or hiding method is unusual, unique, or one of those "need to see" hides, walk away and allow others the same thrill. Quote Link to comment
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