+Team Gecko Posted May 13, 2006 Author Share Posted May 13, 2006 Friday, 5/12/2006 I only saw a handful of critters on this morning's climb to Coyote Mountain Summit Cache (GCHRTN), primarily 3-inch or smaller Side-blotched Lizards (Uta stansburiana). This one posed for a few moments, unlike its brothers and sisters that scurried into hiding nearly as quickly as I saw them. -Gecko Dad Side-blotched Lizard Quote Link to comment
+TrailGators Posted May 13, 2006 Share Posted May 13, 2006 Went caching with Radio Racers, LLOT, Miragee and Duganrm in Blue Sky today. When we got back to the parking lot we got to meet these two Macaws and a Red Tail Hawk. But the Hawk didn't land to say hello to us. I guess he was having too much fun flying around above us..... Quote Link to comment
+Team Gecko Posted May 14, 2006 Author Share Posted May 14, 2006 Friday, 5/12/2006 I encountered this Coast Horned Lizard (Phyrsonoma coronatum) twice within a few feet of the same stretch of the Wilson Trail on Pinyon Ridge this afternoon. The two sightings were three hours apart and he had moved perhaps six feet in that time. This was a pretty large specimen, perhaps close to the maximum 4 inches for this species. -GD Coast Horned Lizard - far from the Coast A cooling off yawn? Quote Link to comment
+Team Gecko Posted May 14, 2006 Author Share Posted May 14, 2006 Friday, 5/12/2006 On my hike back to the trailhead after a hike/jog to Wilson Peak, a young California Whipsnake (Masticophus lateralis) crossed my path and quickly disappeared into a hole at the base of a cholla. At first glance, it appeared to be a garter snake in an extraordinarily uncharacteristic setting far from any water. At only about 24 inches in length, it was the right size and color and featured a yellow stripe on each side. As I was inspecting the hole it went into, I was pleased to see a head pop back out. Apparently, it was curious or this was only a convenient hiding spot, not its home. The lighting and background and movements of the Whipsnake's head were challenging for my autofocus camera but I was able to capture this portrait that shows the characteristic markings for the species. Adult California Whipsnakes, sometimes called Striped Racers or the "chaparral snake", can reach nearly 50 inches in length. They eat frogs, lizards, snakes, small mammels, young birds, and insects. Spiny lizards (species Sceloporus) are an important part of their diet. -GD California Whipsnake Quote Link to comment
+Dr. Boggis Posted May 15, 2006 Share Posted May 15, 2006 I had a fun time yesterday doing Old 395 along the north side of Lake Hodges. There were plenty of these swallow-like birds nesting underneath the freeway bridge (east side): Here's a closer shot of one who's just left the nest: I saw plenty of other birds and small lizards, plus one little rabbit, but on the way back I also saw the back end of this snake (total length was probably 3-4ft): Any formal identifications for me GD?? Quote Link to comment
+Cornerstone4 Posted May 15, 2006 Share Posted May 15, 2006 I had a fun time yesterday doing Old 395 along the north side of Lake Hodges. There were plenty of these swallow-like birds nesting underneath the freeway bridge (east side): Here's a closer shot of one who's just left the nest: I saw plenty of other birds and small lizards, plus one little rabbit, but on the way back I also saw the back end of this snake (total length was probably 3-4ft): Any formal identifications for me GD?? I'm not sure about the bird, but the snake is a California Kingsnake. It looks like a good sized one too. These snakes will actually eat a rattle snake, so they are your friends! Quote Link to comment
+Cornerstone4 Posted May 15, 2006 Share Posted May 15, 2006 I had a fun time yesterday doing Old 395 along the north side of Lake Hodges. There were plenty of these swallow-like birds nesting underneath the freeway bridge (east side): Here's a closer shot of one who's just left the nest: GD can correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems that those are cliff swallows. Quote Link to comment
+Snake & Rooster Posted May 16, 2006 Share Posted May 16, 2006 I believe this is an Anas Platyrhynchos, Mallard Duck. We caught this pair heading towards the MTRP BBQ. Mallards are omnivores, and would no doubt like Chuy's carne asada as much as we did. Quote Link to comment
+Team Gecko Posted May 17, 2006 Author Share Posted May 17, 2006 I had a fun time yesterday doing Old 395 along the north side of Lake Hodges. There were plenty of these swallow-like birds nesting underneath the freeway bridge (east side): Here's a closer shot of one who's just left the nest: I saw plenty of other birds and small lizards, plus one little rabbit, but on the way back I also saw the back end of this snake (total length was probably 3-4ft): Any formal identifications for me GD?? I agree with Cornerstone on both identifications. The California Kingsnake (Lampropeltis getula) is more characteristically black with light bands but brown is also a representative coloration. The swallow's plumage and the nest shape match an identification of Cliff Swallow (Petrochelidon pyrrhonota). Thanks for sharing. -GD Quote Link to comment
+RocketMan Posted May 19, 2006 Share Posted May 19, 2006 OK, it isn't a San Diego critter but I'm posting it anyway. We saw this fox this morning while out taking pictures of the Jeep. Quote Link to comment
+jahoadi and john Posted May 21, 2006 Share Posted May 21, 2006 Could anyone tell me how to post a picture inthe forums ( don't laugh..I'm not computer savy at all..I still print the pages) I have some cool animals that I need to share and get help identifying. r/ jodi.. Quote Link to comment
+FlagMan Posted May 21, 2006 Share Posted May 21, 2006 Could anyone tell me how to post a picture inthe forums ( don't laugh..I'm not computer savy at all..I still print the pages) I have some cool animals that I need to share and get help identifying. r/ jodi.. First you have to upload the picture to a cache page or log or something. Then you need to copy the link to the picture on the site. Then, when you are in the forums, click on the tree icon on the toolbar above where you are typing your forum post and it will ask you for the link to the picture. Just paste the URL link to the picture in that box and, voila, the picture is embedded in the forum post. Don't worry, this is all magic to me. How do it know??? Quote Link to comment
+SD Rowdies Posted May 21, 2006 Share Posted May 21, 2006 (edited) Could anyone tell me how to post a picture inthe forums ( don't laugh..I'm not computer savy at all..I still print the pages) I have some cool animals that I need to share and get help identifying. r/ jodi.. FlagMan gave you the short version but the devil is in the details. Here's the details. You're going to hate the details. Posting Forum Photos What is needed is a URL address for a photo that you either posted on a Geocaching.com cache page or uploaded to either “Your Avatar” or “Your Photo” gallery that’s located on your Account page. Assuming that you haven’t already posted the photos in question then start by building up a photo collection under, for example, “Your Photo” gallery as follows. Sign in to Geocaching.com and then select the “MY ACCOUNT” tab that’s on the Geocaching.com home page. Once there scroll down to the “Your Photo” section and click “Change/Edit.” Doing so will take you to the “Choose My Profile Photo” page where you will find an “upload a new image” link. Clicking that link will take you to the “User Image Upload” page where you can browse and select one image for upload and then click the “Upload” button. Doing so will upload the image and display a thumbnail of the image. Click inside the thumbnail image. Doing so will display the image in a new window. Right-click and copy the information displayed in the URL address bar at the top of this new window. That will copy the server URL of your image onto the Windows scratch pad. Now go to the Forum Thread of interest and click the “Add Reply” button that’s below the last log entry of the thread. On the “Replying to …” page click the tiny “Insert Image” button that's located on the message toolbar. Doing so will bring up an “Explorer User Prompt” window that offers an entry box for the URL that you saved on the Windows scratch-pad. Right-click the entry box and select “Paste” from the drop-down list. Now click “OK,” add comments as desired and then click the “Add Reply” button that’s below the editing area of the “Replying to …” window. Tada! … that’s all there is to it for this method. On the other hand if your photo has already been loaded onto a cache page then just view that photo full-sized and use the above procedure except start at the point where you save the URL to Windows scratch pad. Yes, you must go through this mess for each and every photo posted to the Forum but remember, you get to use server storage space for a photo gallery at no more that the price of a Geocaching Premium Membership. Posting Forum photos not for seesies. Glad to help, Harmon Edited May 21, 2006 by SD Rowdies Quote Link to comment
+TrailGators Posted May 21, 2006 Share Posted May 21, 2006 (edited) Clicking that link will take you to the "User Image Upload" page where you can browse and select one image for upload and then click the "Upload" button. * Also when you get to this stage make a bookmark so the next time you upload a photo you can just zip right to this upload page! Edited May 21, 2006 by TrailGators Quote Link to comment
+Miragee Posted May 21, 2006 Share Posted May 21, 2006 Clicking that link will take you to the "User Image Upload" page where you can browse and select one image for upload and then click the "Upload" button. * Also when you get to this stage make a bookmark so the next time you upload a photo you can just zip right to this upload page! Or, if you use a tabbed browser, like FireFox or Opera, you can just leave that page open all the time as another tab . . . Quote Link to comment
+GoBolts! Posted May 21, 2006 Share Posted May 21, 2006 Clicking that link will take you to the "User Image Upload" page where you can browse and select one image for upload and then click the "Upload" button. * Also when you get to this stage make a bookmark so the next time you upload a photo you can just zip right to this upload page! Or, if you use a tabbed browser, like FireFox or Opera, you can just leave that page open all the time as another tab . . . Or the new IE Quote Link to comment
+TrailGators Posted May 21, 2006 Share Posted May 21, 2006 (edited) Clicking that link will take you to the "User Image Upload" page where you can browse and select one image for upload and then click the "Upload" button. * Also when you get to this stage make a bookmark so the next time you upload a photo you can just zip right to this upload page! Or, if you use a tabbed browser, like FireFox or Opera, you can just leave that page open all the time as another tab . . . Or the new IE Thanks for the tip Dave#5! I just downloaded IE7 beta! Edited May 21, 2006 by TrailGators Quote Link to comment
+jahoadi and john Posted May 21, 2006 Share Posted May 21, 2006 Wow!!! Such awesome teachers!!! Thanks for the help..here goes. We spotted all these critters out in Sweetwater Sat. The only one we recognize is the rattlesnake that was mad at us. Any idea what the others are? Thanks, jodi and John Quote Link to comment
+Miragee Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 Cool pictures! I hiked McGinty with DaMoores today and first we saw this rosy boa. The interesting thing about this was the snake rolled in a ball down from the embankment next to the road and landed in the middle of the trail. It took it quite a while to warm up and unroll and finally move slowly off the road. It was fascninating. I wish I could have gotten a picture of the "ball," I just couldn't get my camera out fast enough. Then, after walking over to the "Peg Leg Mine Mine" cache, this guy rattled at us. It was almost four feet long, quite fat around the middle, but it only had a few rattles. Quote Link to comment
+Cornerstone4 Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 Wow!!! Such awesome teachers!!! Thanks for the help..here goes. We spotted all these critters out in Sweetwater Sat. The only one we recognize is the rattlesnake that was mad at us. Any idea what the others are? Thanks, jodi and John With the red shading on the horns on the head...my guess..Coastal Horned Lizard. Best guess...Southern Pacific Rattlesnake Emu First guess is a Mountain Kingsnake. However, I need to go look at some pics of Sinoloan Milksnakes. If Don doesn't answer first, I'll post again if I get anything more conlcusive. Quote Link to comment
+Cornerstone4 Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 Ok, is it too late to change my last ID? Forget the kingsnake...now I pick Western Long Nose snake... Don? Quote Link to comment
+Team Gecko Posted May 23, 2006 Author Share Posted May 23, 2006 Ok, is it too late to change my last ID? Forget the kingsnake...now I pick Western Long Nose snake... Don? I concur with Cornerstone's identification. I have never seen one of these in the wild although they aren't noted as being rare or endangered. They are crepuscular and nocturnal so a daytime sighting is fairly unusual. Here is a descriptive link for Rhinocheilus lecontei lecontei. Thanks for the new postings. -GD Quote Link to comment
+Team Gecko Posted May 23, 2006 Author Share Posted May 23, 2006 Although not technically a cache critter, Black Phoebe Sayornis nigricans babies are a seasonal feature at Team Gecko's home, with broods successfully raised over the back door to our garage three years in a row. This year's nest holds four babies. It is a real treat watching the adults flitting around our backyard catching insects to feed their youngsters. -GD The nest Class of 2006 Quote Link to comment
+jahoadi and john Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 Ok, is it too late to change my last ID? Forget the kingsnake...now I pick Western Long Nose snake... Don? I concur with Cornerstone's identification. I have never seen one of these in the wild although they aren't noted as being rare or endangered. They are crepuscular and nocturnal so a daytime sighting is fairly unusual. Here is a descriptive link for Rhinocheilus lecontei lecontei. Thanks for the new postings. -GD Thanks for the help identifying these critters. That little snake was about a foot long and only as big as my pinky finger. It was approaching dusk as we had been "exploring" for quite a while. How cool!!!! The lizard was really big..at least 6 inches. Quote Link to comment
+Team Gecko Posted May 26, 2006 Author Share Posted May 26, 2006 Thursday, 5/25/2006, 7:50 pm The Black Phoebe babies have grown quite a bit in the past three days. -GD A mighty tight squeeze One of the parents at dusk Quote Link to comment
+Miragee Posted May 26, 2006 Share Posted May 26, 2006 duganrm stopped in his tracks yesterday when he saw this guy on the trail down to "Hopalong Rides Again." We checked it out thoroughly before taking the pictures and walking past trying not to disturb it. Quote Link to comment
+TrailGators Posted May 27, 2006 Share Posted May 27, 2006 (edited) Gopher snake! Correct! Now I get to be Don! Richard encountered a Gopher snake, Pituophis melanoleucus, among the largest and most widespread snakes of the North American deserts. The gopher snake is usually between 36 and 96 inches long. Gopher snakes range in color from cream-yellow to green-gray to tan, with large black, brown or reddish blotches on their back and smaller ones along their sides. Most specimens have a dark line between the eyes and another from behind the eyes to the angle of the jaw. Edited May 27, 2006 by TrailGators Quote Link to comment
+Team Gecko Posted May 29, 2006 Author Share Posted May 29, 2006 Gopher snake! Correct! Now I get to be Don! Richard encountered a Gopher snake, Pituophis melanoleucus, among the largest and most widespread snakes of the North American deserts. The gopher snake is usually between 36 and 96 inches long. Gopher snakes range in color from cream-yellow to green-gray to tan, with large black, brown or reddish blotches on their back and smaller ones along their sides. Most specimens have a dark line between the eyes and another from behind the eyes to the angle of the jaw. Gopher snakes are indeed quite common. I had one memorable encounter with an adult last May, shortly after I drove back down from the Los Pinos fire lookout. As I was touring the Corral Canyon OHV area for the first time, I spotted a gopher snake at the side of the road. I parked and got out of the truck to encourage it to move out of the way to a safer location. As soon as I stopped, though, it headed straight for the left front wheel and started crawling through it. The rest of the tale is available on my log for Travelin' Turtles. -Gecko Dad Quote Link to comment
+Team Gecko Posted May 29, 2006 Author Share Posted May 29, 2006 9:20 am. I returned from the airport around dinnertime last night after a weekend visit to the Tucson/Oracle area to celebrate Grandma Gecko's 75th birthday. I hoped the baby Black Phoebe's would still be in the nest when I returned after three days away. They were - just barely. When I raised my camera up to take a photo, though, there was an eruption of fluttering and they all came flying out at once - perhaps on their first flights. Since none of them returned to the nest overnight, I was hopeful they would still be out and about in our yard. Here are a couple of shots of our newly "free range" young Phoebes taken this morning through our kitchen window. -Gecko Dad Quote Link to comment
+TrailGators Posted May 29, 2006 Share Posted May 29, 2006 Gopher snake! Correct! Now I get to be Don! Richard encountered a Gopher snake, Pituophis melanoleucus, among the largest and most widespread snakes of the North American deserts. The gopher snake is usually between 36 and 96 inches long. Gopher snakes range in color from cream-yellow to green-gray to tan, with large black, brown or reddish blotches on their back and smaller ones along their sides. Most specimens have a dark line between the eyes and another from behind the eyes to the angle of the jaw. Gopher snakes are indeed quite common. I had one memorable encounter with an adult last May, shortly after I drove back down from the Los Pinos fire lookout. As I was touring the Corral Canyon OHV area for the first time, I spotted a gopher snake at the side of the road. I parked and got out of the truck to encourage it to move out of the way to a safer location. As soon as I stopped, though, it headed straight for the left front wheel and started crawling through it. The rest of the tale is available on my log for Travelin' Turtles. -Gecko Dad Funny story Don! Sounds like he wanted to go for some caching with you! Quote Link to comment
+Team Gecko Posted May 29, 2006 Author Share Posted May 29, 2006 Saturday, 5/27/2006 I was in the foothills north of Tucson on my way to Biosphere 2 Backdoor, when I spotted this Coachwhip (Masticophis flagellum piceus) in the middle of the road near the cache trailhead. I thought I would have time to take a few portrait shots of this remarkably colored snake until I saw how quickly it was moving - perhaps the fastest snake I have ever seen. This specimen was 5 1/2 to 6 feet long. Coachwhips in Arizona occur in "red" phase or "black" phase. I managed to capture the first shot with barely enough time to get in a second before it headed over to the road berm and disappeared down a rodent hole. Unlike the California Whipsnake I photographed on the Wilson Trail a couple of weeks ago, this much larger member of the Whipsnake genus did not reappear. -Gecko Dad Coachwhip On the move Quote Link to comment
+Team Gecko Posted May 29, 2006 Author Share Posted May 29, 2006 Sunday, 5/28/2006 While running up the Charouleau Gap road on my way to Limbo Cache, I was treated to an overflight of a pair of Turkey Vultures (Cathartes aura). Turkey Vultures are far and away the most common variety of New World Vultures with a range encompassing nearly all of the Continental U.S. and Mexico. Because I was on a rocky outcrop, I had an eye-level view of the pair and was able to watch them circling from above and below. -Gecko Dad Looking out over Canon del Oro near Catalina, Arizona Over-the-shoulder view Coming around again A magnificent overflight Quote Link to comment
+Dr. Boggis Posted May 30, 2006 Share Posted May 30, 2006 test. Test failed! Gehen Sie bitte zu diesem Gewinde. Danke! Quote Link to comment
+SD Rowdies Posted May 30, 2006 Share Posted May 30, 2006 (edited) Rattler giving me a serenade at the MTRP Fortuna saddle. It was sun-bathing on the trail and seemed very excited to see me. I appreciated the entertainment. How long? O, you know, eight or ten feet. Check out the evil eye it gave me and the shadow of the tongue. Edited May 31, 2006 by SD Rowdies Quote Link to comment
+Team Gecko Posted May 31, 2006 Author Share Posted May 31, 2006 Rattler giving me a serenade at the MTRP Fortuna saddle. It was sun-bathing on the trail and seemed very excited to see me. I appreciated the entertainment. How long? O, you know, eight or ten feet. Check out the evil eye it gave me and the shadow of the tongue. Great shot, Harmon. Hmmm. Ten feet you say. Must be a new mutation. Based on the dark chevrons and lacking the ringtail of a Red Diamond, this looks to be a light version of Southern Pacific Rattlesnake. That evil eye must have been good for at least 5 of those feet. For those of you who caught the first episode of Animal Planet's Venom ER television series, you already know this species possesses some exceptionally potent venum. Keeping a respectful distance is always the best practice. -GD Quote Link to comment
+SD Rowdies Posted May 31, 2006 Share Posted May 31, 2006 (edited) Rattler giving me a serenade at the MTRP Fortuna saddle. It was sun-bathing on the trail and seemed very excited to see me. I appreciated the entertainment. How long? O, you know, eight or ten feet. Check out the evil eye it gave me and the shadow of the tongue. Great shot, Harmon. Hmmm. Ten feet you say. Must be a new mutation. Based on the dark chevrons and lacking the ringtail of a Red Diamond, this looks to be a light version of Southern Pacific Rattlesnake. That evil eye must have been good for at least 5 of those feet. For those of you who caught the first episode of Animal Planet's Venom ER television series, you already know this species possesses some exceptionally potent venum. Keeping a respectful distance is always the best practice. -GD Thanks Don. Here it is in retreat and color corrected but still giving me the evil eye. It was quite aggressive when I approached along the trail, coiling when I stepped closer for the above shot but still eight or ten feet away. Thinking it over tonight I'm sure it was a twelve footer, you know, more or less. Edited May 31, 2006 by SD Rowdies Quote Link to comment
+Team Gecko Posted June 1, 2006 Author Share Posted June 1, 2006 Yep, definitely a Southern Pacific. I wondered about the coloration in the first photo. Guess you were "fortunate" to encounter the all-time world record specimen - more or less. -GD Quote Link to comment
+SD Rowdies Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 (edited) Yep, definitely a Southern Pacific. I wondered about the coloration in the first photo. Guess you were "fortunate" to encounter the all-time world record specimen - more or less. -GD Fortunate huh? Took me ten minutes to catch up with my hiking boots. Well, o.k., so maybe it was only ten feet long. You know me, I wouldn't want to exaggerate. Still it seemed the same length as that ladder I fell off of when I broke my ankle last year. As to the off-color maybe my camera was seeing things like I was after twice climbing down to and back up from that incredible Adrenalin cache. I'll always wonder if the beautiful and serene Travelita would have showed up at my funeral had I fallen from that precarious perch. ... and would the rangers have fined me for landing off trail at the base of south Fortuna? These things I wonder. Life is good ... an adrenalin twofer. Edited June 1, 2006 by SD Rowdies Quote Link to comment
+Pioneer 'n' Tiff Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 Inquiry: met my first (identification forthcoming in a photo after I do laundry) snake today. I'm assuming that it is a rattlesnake BUT can I suggest that in addittion to identification in this forum that recommended advice be added. Eg: first aid. Quote Link to comment
+Cornerstone4 Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 Inquiry: met my first (identification forthcoming in a photo after I do laundry) snake today. I'm assuming that it is a rattlesnake BUT can I suggest that in addittion to identification in this forum that recommended advice be added. Eg: first aid. I don't know about first aid...but if you get bit...Harmon said Ya'll gonna die! Quote Link to comment
+Let's Look Over Thayer Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 Inquiry: met my first (identification forthcoming in a photo after I do laundry) snake today. I'm assuming that it is a rattlesnake BUT can I suggest that in addittion to identification in this forum that recommended advice be added. Eg: first aid. I don't know about first aid...but if you get bit...Harmon said Ya'll gonna die! The good news: Y'all probably won't die...probably. The bad news: It's gonna' hurt a lot! And for those that want "recommended advice" -- scroll back back to post #132 on this very thread...(or click here) Quote Link to comment
+Let's Look Over Thayer Posted June 4, 2006 Share Posted June 4, 2006 On Memorial Day, Ms. LLOT and I were preparing to go out caching when we saw this Kingsnake out by our back fence: While I was trying to take pictures of it, Ms. LLOT calls out "Look behind you!, Look behind you!" I turned around in time to see a tail disappear underneath some shadecloth. After further investigation, we found this guy: We are tentatively identifying it as a gopher snake but the long nose makes us wonder about that ID...anyone? Quote Link to comment
+Team Gecko Posted June 4, 2006 Author Share Posted June 4, 2006 On Memorial Day, Ms. LLOT and I were preparing to go out caching when we saw this Kingsnake out by our back fence: While I was trying to take pictures of it, Ms. LLOT calls out "Look behind you!, Look behind you!" I turned around in time to see a tail disappear underneath some shadecloth. After further investigation, we found this guy: We are tentatively identifying it as a gopher snake but the long nose makes us wonder about that ID...anyone? Yes, Gopher Snake. Congratulations on your twofer sighting. -GD Quote Link to comment
+SD Rowdies Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 Road Runner spotted near GCVN2T in MTRP. Without getting technical about it a Road Runner is the only indigenous cuckoo bird in continental U.S. as far as I know. I have seen and heard the classic Cuckoo Bird in Korea and was thrilled to know that it's call is indeed "Cuckoo! Cuckoo!" as precisely mimicked by the clock of the same name. Quote Link to comment
+GoBolts! Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 Found this cute frog, today, on my way to a cache. PS Ran into my first copperhead a few days ago...I am lucky I did not get bit. (did not have my camera) Quote Link to comment
+Team Gecko Posted June 9, 2006 Author Share Posted June 9, 2006 PS Ran into my first copperhead a few days ago...I am lucky I did not get bit. (did not have my camera) GB- Copperhead? We're you at the zoo or in Texas or the Deep South or ??? -GD Quote Link to comment
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