+greengolftee87 Posted July 30, 2004 Share Posted July 30, 2004 i just got US TOPO and have to say that it doesnt really do much for me. I already knew the roads would be bad but thats why i have metroguide. What does the topo sofware do. i shows me elevation lines but is that all, why is that so important to people? Quote Link to comment
4x5shooter Posted July 30, 2004 Share Posted July 30, 2004 If you don't need elevation or contour data, then you're right, topo maps are of little use to you. For hiking, that data is useful, as are the additional trail, off-road, and hiking points of interest on the maps. Quote Link to comment
+greengolftee87 Posted July 30, 2004 Author Share Posted July 30, 2004 I know i can see elevation changes but how do i know if they are up or down. and what are some hiking points of interest, are they like the many picnic shelters that are marked with a tree Quote Link to comment
TUPPERHUNTER Posted July 30, 2004 Share Posted July 30, 2004 When you look at the lines you will see a darker line every 5 or 10 lines. there should be an elevation number on the darker line. From there you can tell if you are going up or down. also on the maps you can see if there are swamps, thick brush, streams, rivers, and even benchmarks. with the topo program you can put the caches on the maps so you can see where your go when your gps fails(it will happen sometime when you least expect it) also you will have to pay a fine for the rangers to come find you. IN ALL, YOU MUST CARY A MAP AND COMPASS WHEN HIKING FOR A BARE MINIMUM!!! Quote Link to comment
+Renegade Knight Posted July 30, 2004 Share Posted July 30, 2004 If you don't need elevation or contour data, then you're right, topo maps are of little use to you. For hiking, that data is useful, as are the additional trail, off-road, and hiking points of interest on the maps. In my cache hunts the trails are just the ticket. Getting around in a town is easy. Convoluted spagetti trails are another matter. Quote Link to comment
+as77 Posted July 30, 2004 Share Posted July 30, 2004 IN ALL, YOU MUST CARY A MAP AND COMPASS WHEN HIKING FOR A BARE MINIMUM!!! I never carry a map. I don't have maps in the GPS either. The GPS in itself is perfectly enough (just mark your starting point), even a compass is unnecessary (although it can help). If you get lost with a GPS in your hand then probably you have not yet learned how to use it. Of course, if the GPS fails that can be a problem. One of the thrills in geocaching or hiking with a GPS is that you don't need a map, you don't have to follow any trails and still you will never get lost. Quote Link to comment
+JamesJM Posted July 30, 2004 Share Posted July 30, 2004 IN ALL, YOU MUST CARY A MAP AND COMPASS WHEN HIKING FOR A BARE MINIMUM!!! I never carry a map. I don't have maps in the GPS either. The GPS in itself is perfectly enough (just mark your starting point), even a compass is unnecessary (although it can help). If you get lost with a GPS in your hand then probably you have not yet learned how to use it. Of course, if the GPS fails that can be a problem. One of the thrills in geocaching or hiking with a GPS is that you don't need a map, you don't have to follow any trails and still you will never get lost. Well, this is true...to a degree. Nevertheless....an accurate topo map, for those who can read them well, draws you a picture of your surrounding area better than ANYTHING. A 'good' topo will allow the reader to understand not only his position but how it relates to the geographic area he/she happens to be in.....and for a hiker, which I am, this has ENORMOUS value. If you stick to the trails then....well, maybe not....but if you ever venture away from the trail then most definitely so. - JamesJM Quote Link to comment
+greengolftee87 Posted July 31, 2004 Author Share Posted July 31, 2004 but in any of the known trails in my area i cant find them on the map Quote Link to comment
+as77 Posted July 31, 2004 Share Posted July 31, 2004 Nevertheless....an accurate topo map, for those who can read them well, draws you a picture of your surrounding area better than ANYTHING. A 'good' topo will allow the reader to understand not only his position but how it relates to the geographic area he/she happens to be in.....and for a hiker, which I am, this has ENORMOUS value. This is true, but whether you want that or not is a matter of personal preference. I like to "pretend" that I'm an explorer of the area and there is just no map because no one before me was there This can cause some surprises but that is part of the game for me. If I'm given a map that shows what is where then what is the point of going anywhere, I can see everything on the map Quote Link to comment
+TresOkies Posted July 31, 2004 Share Posted July 31, 2004 IN ALL, YOU MUST CARY A MAP AND COMPASS WHEN HIKING FOR A BARE MINIMUM!!! ... One of the thrills in geocaching or hiking with a GPS is that you don't need a map, you don't have to follow any trails and still you will never get lost. I foresee you becoming acquainted with the Search and Rescue squad. When I lived in Colorado, we lost a couple dozen tourists a year to plain ol' stupidity. Such as going into the backcountry without a map, ignoring flood warnings, deliberately starting avalanches to snowboard, skiing backwards downhill while playing catch with a football, etc. I don't bother with paper maps and a compass when I'm in a city park or a light hiking area. I keep a fanny pack with bare essentials. If my trek takes me more than 2 miles from my vehicle or more than 300 feet of elevation change, I pack more seriously. Quote Link to comment
+Night Stalker Posted July 31, 2004 Share Posted July 31, 2004 When searching for a cache it sure is nice to know that you can go around the hill and get to the cache rather then going over. I hopefully am getting a little smarter in my old age and bushwhack a little less. Quote Link to comment
+wornout Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 I agree with carrying a paper topo page (printed out before heading out) when going a mile or more offroad. Those that don't agree with this have never gone out without spare batteries. Even if one does carry spare batteries, they will not be as valuable as a paper map if one has tripped and found out when they get back up that their GPSr doesn't power on for one reason or another. Quote Link to comment
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