+Konnarock Kid & Marge Posted July 26, 2004 Share Posted July 26, 2004 Hi Everyone, This newbie has a question. Please forgive for I do not intend to step on anyone's shoes (or hiking boots). The question is this : why would a fellow geocacher keep placing the same TB in and out of caches? This has happened 4 times with the same TB. In the cache and out of it on the same day. Since we are new, are we missing something? Thanks Quote Link to comment
+Team DEMP Posted July 26, 2004 Share Posted July 26, 2004 They are likely just tracking the mileage by dropping it (via the site, not physically)into each cache they log. More like a personal TB they keep and not one they release for others to move around. There are a few cachers/TBs like this but not too many. Quote Link to comment
+Konnarock Kid & Marge Posted July 26, 2004 Author Share Posted July 26, 2004 Thanks Team DEMP, I should add that the TBs belong to someone else (way out of state). Does this make a difference? Thanks Quote Link to comment
+BlueDeuce Posted July 26, 2004 Share Posted July 26, 2004 As TD stated, it is probably a personal TB. Sometimes if I am carrying a bug or coin that I have targeted for a certain cache, I'll run it through the caches I found along the way. But only when I'm traveling a significant distance. I figure the bug deserves to show that it's been there even if I haven't left it behind. Quote Link to comment
+fly46 Posted July 26, 2004 Share Posted July 26, 2004 The question isn't where he lives, the question is did the person in question also LOG every cache that he's dropping this bug in and out of? Some people have a personal travel bug, and they log it in and out of every cache they go to so they have a map of where/when they cahed and a mileage log of their caching experiences. It also puts all of their cache finds in a single place to look through when they want to find something quickly/at a glance. So if he's going to the cache, and also logging this bug in and out, then it's his personal bug. Quote Link to comment
+Konnarock Kid & Marge Posted July 26, 2004 Author Share Posted July 26, 2004 The person in question does log the TBs in and out and it is shown on the log. Can you latch on to someones TB and it becomes your personal TB? Maybe I am all wrong, but that seems to defeat the purpose of TBs really going in and out of caches by different geocachers. It's like virtual taking and placing but not really doing it. Thanks. Quote Link to comment
+BlueDeuce Posted July 26, 2004 Share Posted July 26, 2004 (edited) Can you latch on to someones TB and it becomes your personal TB? I guess you could hold one hostage, but it'll never be 'yours'. Actually dropping and retrieving a bug (not their own) is not that uncommon. Perhaps this cacher is on vacation traveling through several states and maybe they'll release the bug once they reach their destination. I would certainly want my bug to show it passed through, even if the cacher kept it going. You can check to see if they logged a 'Found' on the cache as that won't show on the bug history. But personally I wouldn't lose too much sleep over it. The chances are pretty good the bug really did visit the cache. Edited July 26, 2004 by Elf Danach Quote Link to comment
+ZackJones Posted July 26, 2004 Share Posted July 26, 2004 why would a fellow geocacher keep placing the same TB in and out of caches? Some TB's have a goal to visit as many caches as possible and encourage this activity. For example my Georgia on my Mind TB is one such TB. Zack Quote Link to comment
+Theseus Posted July 26, 2004 Share Posted July 26, 2004 I have a geocoin whose goal is to reach all 50 states. It was found by a geocacher who is traveling extensively. He asked if I minded if he kept the coin while he traveled. I said I thought that was a great way to rack up states. So he logs it in and out when he travels to a new state. 12 states down, most of which are thanks to him. I might question it if he hadn't asked but in this case I think it's fine. Quote Link to comment
+Divine Posted July 26, 2004 Share Posted July 26, 2004 In And Out, In And Out, Etc. Quote Link to comment
+Konnarock Kid & Marge Posted July 26, 2004 Author Share Posted July 26, 2004 Sorry folks, I guess I am the odd ball but I think is not what TBs are all about. For the same person (not on a vacation) to simply carry a TB with him for days while he is caching is not what it is all about. So the TB gets milage, big deal. One person not physically placing the TB in a cache is fake. The TB wasn't in the cache therefore how can it be "placed" as in the log? The other thing that's wrong with this is keeping it for so long deprives other cachers an opportunity to really "find" it in a cache and to really "place" it in another cache. It sounds like we are getting caught up in the statistics and forgetting the fun of the chase. Its like virtual (not the cache type) caching and not really doing it. Please don't get me wrong, there is nothing wrong with keeping score but is it a real score or a virtual one? Thanks Quote Link to comment
+fly46 Posted July 26, 2004 Share Posted July 26, 2004 I guess the question is what's the goal of this bug? If it's in a mileage race, then no, don't log it in and out... But if its goal is to go to as many caches as it can, why not let someone dangle it from their GPS and take it around on a day or two of caching? We'd have more educated speculation if you'd post a link to this bug. Quote Link to comment
+Konnarock Kid & Marge Posted July 27, 2004 Author Share Posted July 27, 2004 Hi fly46, Thanks for your post. I don't want to start a personal war with a fellow cacher but if it helps, here is the information on 'only' one TB. The no. is TB1013 and it doesn't have a goal. Please do not use any names in yours or anyone else's reply. Thanks. Quote Link to comment
+BlueDeuce Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 We need to understand that cachers handle bugs in different ways. Bugs come and bugs go. Personally, I wouldn't lose any sleep over it. Oops, I said that before. Time for me to go. Quote Link to comment
+GentleWhisper Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 Sometimes people pick up a TB and then the next several caches they find are only micros... since they can't drop off the TB, they log it in and out of the cache so that there can still be a record of the TB's travel history. Actually I did the opposite once. I found a TB that was meant for a film canister micro. I didn't find one for a while, so I logged the TB in and out of the other caches I visited. The owner e-mailed me thanking me for adding the mileage. Quote Link to comment
McKenzie Clan Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 One time I did that with a TB that had moved from Colorado to Canada, but had never been logged into any caches. The people who had it simply placed notes on the cache pages or mentioned it in logs but never dropped it off officially. I logged it in and out of three caches using the note feature in order to make sure the bug got its mileage. Scott Quote Link to comment
+Eartha Posted July 28, 2004 Share Posted July 28, 2004 Sometimes cachers are taking Travel Bugs on a mission when they do this. We cannot presume to know where the cacher is heading. Sometimes Bugs are in races and the cacher has offered it a ride. It is done quite often, and usually it is nice to e-mail the Bug owner and let them know what's up. If the bug hasn't got a specific goal, the cacher is just helping it along. There is no hard and fast rule about how bugs get moved, as long as they move. If it is your bug, then you have the option of sending the cacher in question a polite e-mail asking what their plans are for dropping it off. Quote Link to comment
+Konnarock Kid & Marge Posted July 28, 2004 Author Share Posted July 28, 2004 Thanks everyone for your ideas and thoughts on this subject. Quote Link to comment
+worldtraveler Posted July 29, 2004 Share Posted July 29, 2004 It appears from the most recent log that the cacher was holding it until he could place it in one of his new caches. The practice is not unusual, and since the TB doesn't currently have a goal, no harm was done. Looks like it's sitting in a cache now waiting for someone else to grab it. Quote Link to comment
+Konnarock Kid & Marge Posted August 3, 2004 Author Share Posted August 3, 2004 Thanks again. I have learned a lot. P.S. I just received my first two TBs today and I will activate them soon. I hope one of you good people find them. Quote Link to comment
+DubyaDee Posted August 3, 2004 Share Posted August 3, 2004 People are finding Jeep TB's and dropping and retrieving them in caches. It's like, Dig Me! I got one, you don't. What's up with that? Jeeps are supposed to be traded, so everyone gets a shot. What a bunch of MoTards. WD Quote Link to comment
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