+leatherman Posted December 2, 2003 Share Posted December 2, 2003 I just bought Mapsource US TOPO 3.02 When I went to Garmin.com I could only find one download for Mapsource 5.4 Is this for all Mapsource products? There was a TOPO basemap upload there too. Link to comment
+Prime Suspect Posted December 2, 2003 Share Posted December 2, 2003 MapSource is the map interface software. You can download it for free from Garmin. However, it's useless without the actual map files, which is what you're actually buying. So if you buy MapSource TOPO, you're getting the MapSource program and the TOPO data files. Link to comment
+leatherman Posted December 2, 2003 Author Share Posted December 2, 2003 Ok. So does 3.02 refer to the interface or the TOPO data? I know when I was searching for TOPO on the internet many were referred to as new version 3.11. I downloaded the update for my Rino too. The instructions say to put the unit in "simulator mode" and to refer to your manual for instructions. The only reference to "simulation" I found was for the Demo mode. The Garmin site sucks! Nothing is intuitive. Like your supposed to know what to do. Through osmosis or something. Link to comment
+Prime Suspect Posted December 2, 2003 Share Posted December 2, 2003 3.02 would be the TOPO data release. To find out your release data, start up MapSource. Under the Help menu, click on About MapSource. The pop-up will show the MapSource release (the latest is 5.4). Click on the Product Info button, and it will show you the version info for the map data. New MapSource releases are always backwards compatible with the map files, so you can upgrade MapSource without having to buy new map files. Of course, all you're getting are the enhancements to the interface, not new maps. Link to comment
+TresOkies Posted December 2, 2003 Share Posted December 2, 2003 Ok. So does 3.02 refer to the interface or the TOPO data? I know when I was searching for TOPO on the internet many were referred to as new version 3.11. 3.11 is the version of the TOPO product you have. It probably contains version 3.11 of the MapSource program. The MapSource program is currently at 5.x and it will work with your TOPO product (or at least it does with mine). I have the following products all running from the same version of MapSource: MetroGuide 4.x, Topo, Canada Roads and Rec, European Roads and Rec. I can pop between the various maps without restarting the program. I downloaded the update for my Rino too. The instructions say to put the unit in "simulator mode" and to refer to your manual for instructions. The only reference to "simulation" I found was for the Demo mode. I don't have a Rino, so I can't comment on it specifically, but I have an eTrex, an eMap, and the StreetPilot III. The updater for all of those units say to connect the unit to an available serial port, turn it on, and press the "connect" button. I've never had this process fail in probably 20 updates. I wouldn't attempt to update your Rino until you are absolutely certain what you are doing, though. Failing to properly flash a device like a GPS or a PDA is almost certain to guarantee a return trip to the factory to get re-flashed. The Garmin site sucks! Nothing is intuitive. Like your supposed to know what to do. Through osmosis or something. I don't see it as any worse than any other corporate site. There certainly are some peculiarities, but then again I've been going there for a couple of years so I know where I'm headed. Good luck. I hope your Garmin experience gets better. -E Link to comment
+Prime Suspect Posted December 2, 2003 Share Posted December 2, 2003 There was a TOPO basemap upload there too. That's not a basemap. It a patch to fix a problem with existing TOPO data files. Link to comment
+leatherman Posted December 2, 2003 Author Share Posted December 2, 2003 Download MapSource United States TOPO Basemap Patch. It says basemap, however I don't think it applies to me. I'm not in Minnesota. Anyways, thanks for the help. My friend has had a GPS V since May. You guys taught me more than he has. In fact now I will have to show him a thing or two. Link to comment
+Alan2 Posted December 2, 2003 Share Posted December 2, 2003 By the way Joe, we didn't get where you live. Link to comment
+Prime Suspect Posted December 2, 2003 Share Posted December 2, 2003 Download MapSource United States TOPO Basemap Patch. It says basemap, however I don't think it applies to me. I'm not in Minnesota. Yes the word "basemap" is there. It's still a patch, not a mapfile. That's why the word "patch" follows the word "basemap". Link to comment
+Pudman Posted December 2, 2003 Share Posted December 2, 2003 Yes, Demo mode is the same as "simulator mode". I have a Rino and actually called them before I did my first update to be sure. Link to comment
+leatherman Posted December 2, 2003 Author Share Posted December 2, 2003 Yes, Demo mode is the same as "simulator mode". I have a Rino and actually called them before I did my first update to be sure. Thanks, but when I unzipped the firmware update it didn't say anything about simulator or demo. So I just ran it. No troubles, thank God. As for the "Basemap Patch" that is the problem I have with the site. The word Basemap suggests firmware device basemap. The word "patch" could be used for software or firmware. It refers to TOPO specifically, however when you read the description it loosely suggests that it is a Mapsource patch for viewing TOPO maps in a certain region. Is Garmin based in a different country? Do they have a hard time with english? The patch could have been one sentence. "Mapsource patch, correcting TOPO map viewing for a region in Wisconsin." Link to comment
+TresOkies Posted December 2, 2003 Share Posted December 2, 2003 Is Garmin based in a different country? Do they have a hard time with english? Garmin is headquartered in Olathe, KS, on the southwest side of Kansas City. I have spent some time there and none of those I met had any difficulty communicating in any language. -E Link to comment
+Prime Suspect Posted December 2, 2003 Share Posted December 2, 2003 As for the "Basemap Patch" that is the problem I have with the site. The word Basemap suggests firmware device basemap. The word "patch" could be used for software or firmware. It refers to TOPO specifically, however when you read the description it loosely suggests that it is a Mapsource patch for viewing TOPO maps in a certain region. Is Garmin based in a different country? Do they have a hard time with english? The patch could have been one sentence. "Mapsource patch, correcting TOPO map viewing for a region in Wisconsin." It's seemed pretty simple to me. It's obviously not a firmware patch, because it's on a page for the MapSource product. It specifically states (not '"loosely suggests") that: This patch is only applicable for all versions of the MapSource United States TOPO product. Seems pretty obvious that it's not any kind of GPS firmware patch. However, I fully support and defend your inalienable right to be confused. Link to comment
+leatherman Posted December 2, 2003 Author Share Posted December 2, 2003 defend your inalienable right to be confused. That's not to hard to do. However I'm still blaming them! Link to comment
+leatherman Posted December 2, 2003 Author Share Posted December 2, 2003 Garmin is headquartered in Olathe, KS, on the southwest side of Kansas City. Ok, since when do the folks in Kansas speak english. That accent has to be foreign. Link to comment
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