Mr and Mrs Boogie Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 I decided to go for the Etrex 20. It's around 100USD more than the Etrex 10, so it's a substantial difference in price. Doing research and find out that the map that's advertised on the box is NOT the map that comes with the unit. Etrex 10 has this map.................. But the Etrex 20 DOES NOT have this map............ If the Etrex 10 shows the map that's included, then why think the Etrex 20 wouldn't have the map pictured? I'm annoyed that I'll pay almost 200USD, then have to pay more to get what I originally thought I already paid for. Grrrr! With that said, are there any good sites to download free maps? Or is that looked down upon like downloading music or movies for free? . . Quote Link to comment
+derektiffany Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 I download maps from here for my Garmin: http://www.gpsfiledepot.com/ Quote Link to comment
+Viajero Perdido Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 Clearly the first map is also not "included". Car, camp, etc. are personal waypoints, not ones that you'd find on a distributed map. (And what map-maker would think "trail" is a point?) Quote Link to comment
+Ringrat Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 I download maps from here for my Garmin: http://www.gpsfiledepot.com/ +1 I use Ibycus Topo in Canada, though. Also free. Quote Link to comment
+Gitchee-Gummee Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 You seemed to acknowledge that the eTrex 20 DID NOT have the mapping as shown in the product photo in this thread , prior to your purchase. Free maps for downloading: http://www.gpsfiledepot.com/ ; http://openstreetmap.us/ (US); https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=3/46.56/-70.66 (International) . Quote Link to comment
Pup Patrol Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 (edited) I decided to go for the Etrex 20. It's around 100USD more than the Etrex 10, so it's a substantial difference in price. Doing research and find out that the map that's advertised on the box is NOT the map that comes with the unit. Etrex 10 has this map.................. http://gpstracklog.com/2012/03/garmin-etrex-10-review.html The Garmin eTrex 10 is Garmin’s new entry-level unit in the recently updated eTrex series. It offers paperless geocaching, GPS+GLONASS and advanced track navigation, but has a monochrome screen, limited memory and cannot accept detailed maps (although you can see your track and waypoints, as pictured above. But the Etrex 20 DOES NOT have this map............ If the Etrex 10 shows the map that's included, then why think the Etrex 20 wouldn't have the map pictured? I'm annoyed that I'll pay almost 200USD, then have to pay more to get what I originally thought I already paid for. Grrrr! Comparing apples to oranges with those two photos. The first one is of the tracks and waypoints that the owner creates. That's just an illustration of what can be done. I'll bet that the 2nd photo is also an illustration of what *can* be possible. What are they going to put on the box for either one? A blank screen? This comparison chart says that neither the etrex10 or the extrex20 comes with pre-loaded detailed maps. Garmin handheld GPS comparison chart http://gpstracklog.com/compare/garmin-handheld-gps-comparison-chart B. Edited May 13, 2015 by Pup Patrol Quote Link to comment
+wmpastor Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 Clever marketing - the want people to buy the more expensive product. (It worked. ) Usually there is a fine-print disclaimer somewhere ("map not included; shown for illustrative purposes only"). Unhappy with product? Tell them you were misled and return it. Quote Link to comment
+wmpastor Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 You seemed to acknowledge that the eTrex 20 DID NOT have the mapping as shown in the product photo in this thread , prior to your purchase. Buyer's remorse in the first case, stalking in the second case. Quote Link to comment
+JL_HSTRE Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 Etrex 20 is still much better than an Etrex 10. I have an Etrex 30 and use the free topo and trail maps from GPS File Depot. Quote Link to comment
knowschad Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 I'll bet that the 2nd photo is also an illustration of what *can* be possible. What are they going to put on the box for either one? A blank screen? B. Yup. Just as they did for the eTrex 10. If it doesn't come with maps, they should not show it with maps. I see that even on their website, they picture the '20 with maps, and all they say is that it has "Extensive Map Support" and can load "a variety of maps". That latter can be easily understood to mean that you can add even MORE maps, and doesn't clearly state that it comes with NO maps. I think that's some pretty careless, possibly shady marketing. Quote Link to comment
+BruceS Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 Moving to GPS section of forums. Quote Link to comment
Mr and Mrs Boogie Posted May 13, 2015 Author Share Posted May 13, 2015 You seemed to acknowledge that the eTrex 20 DID NOT have the mapping as shown in the product photo in this thread , prior to your purchase. Free maps for downloading: http://www.gpsfiledepot.com/ ; http://openstreetmap.us/ (US); https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=3/46.56/-70.66 (International) . Yes. This post was about venting in regards to misleading images AND the attitude/availability of free maps. Hope to buy the Etrex 20 in a week or so. Thanks to all the responses. Quote Link to comment
+BruceS Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 Its kind of like my raisin bran cereal I had for breakfast this morning... the picture on the box showed it having milk on it... no matter how hard I shook the box no milk... Quote Link to comment
+Coldnosed Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 My 20 looks just like that if I back off a bit ... It starts around the 8 mile scale. I do have a few mountains around so it shows better. Quote Link to comment
+jellis Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 (edited) Read carefully Extensive Map Support With its microSD™ card slot and large internal memory, eTrex lets you load a variety of maps, including TOPO 24K, BlueChart® g2, City Navigator NT® and BirdsEye™ Satellite Imagery (subscription required). •Includes a worldwide basemap edit: This came right from the Garmin site for Etrex 20 Edited May 14, 2015 by jellis Quote Link to comment
craigmusselman Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 i just downloaded the free openstreet map and it is a nice addon in the city, was difficult doing urban stuff without streets, as in the default. If anyone has google earth type stuff for my city that would be really useful though. (free) Quote Link to comment
+coggins Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 (edited) Doing research and find out that the map that's advertised on the box is NOT the map that comes with the unit. Next time start your research at the product webpage, here is the image from garmin.com: Notice the text under the picture. Also, it mentions on the box that the pictured maps are optional. BTW, this is what Bait-and-switch means: Bait-and-switch is a form of fraud used in retail sales but also employed in other contexts. First, customers are "baited" by merchants' advertising products or services at a low price, but when customers visit the store, they discover that the advertised goods are not available, or the customers are pressured by sales people to consider similar, but higher priced items ("switching"). So if you were "baited" with an eTrex 10 for US$50.00, but they were magically sold out and a salesman "switched" you to an eTrex 20 for $200.00, that is a Bait-and-switch. Also, Garmin just announced the eTrex 20x retailing for the same price as the eTrex 20. Paying almost US$200 for the eTrex 20 at this time is not a wise decision. So in answer to your query, no that is not a Bait-and-switch. Edited May 15, 2015 by coggins Quote Link to comment
Nmw Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 By the way, I saw this mentioned on another site... This is very good value to me. "Just got the anniversary sale catalog from REI. They are offering the Garmin Oregon 600 for $220, available from May 15 through May 25 only. That seems like a really good price, not sure if I've seen it for less." Quote Link to comment
Nmw Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 Oops, just saw earlier post regarding this. Sorry. Quote Link to comment
Andronicus Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 My 20 looks just like that if I back off a bit ... It starts around the 8 mile scale. I do have a few mountains around so it shows better. Good point. The scale in the bottom left in that picture shows 50 miles, so the whole screen would be about 200+ miles. Quote Link to comment
+Mineral2 Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 You seemed to acknowledge that the eTrex 20 DID NOT have the mapping as shown in the product photo in this thread , prior to your purchase. Free maps for downloading: http://www.gpsfiledepot.com/ ; http://openstreetmap.us/ (US); https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=3/46.56/-70.66 (International) . Yes. This post was about venting in regards to misleading images AND the attitude/availability of free maps. Hope to buy the Etrex 20 in a week or so. Thanks to all the responses. Why settle for the eTrex 20 when the Oregon 600 is on sale for just a few bucks more? Quote Link to comment
Mr and Mrs Boogie Posted May 15, 2015 Author Share Posted May 15, 2015 Why settle for the eTrex 20 when the Oregon 600 is on sale for just a few bucks more? Interesting. What would be beneficial of the Oregon 600 over the E Trex 20 that would be in regards to geocaching? . Quote Link to comment
+GeoTrekker26 Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 Why settle for the eTrex 20 when the Oregon 600 is on sale for just a few bucks more? Interesting. What would be beneficial of the Oregon 600 over the E Trex 20 that would be in regards to geocaching? . The Oregon has a slightly larger screen and thus 2/3 the battery life of the 20. Big advantage for the Oregon is the touch screen. DO you know you can go to Garmin.com and select both units and then the green compare button and see a list of the features? No one can tell you what is best for you, so read a little and decide what features you want. Quote Link to comment
+Laughing at the Sky Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 I have an eTrex 10, just because that's all my parents could afford to buy when they got it for my birthday 2 years ago. It does the job, but I've always been disappointed by the map. It's also slow sometimes - takes a few seconds to respond when I select something. Still, when the first bunch of geocaches I found on my own were done without a GPS. Just a map and a paper note of the details from the cache page. So any GPS was a huge step up for me, to actually be able to be taken closer to the co-ordinates. Quote Link to comment
+Mineral2 Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 For geocaching, I thoroughly enjoy having the 3-axis compass. The bigger screen is also much nicer. Touch screen is a personal preference. I do prefer it to buttons or the joystick. I'm not sure what new features the eTrex 20x/30x have over the Oregon 600. Quote Link to comment
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