Cache Quality

[+a1elec]

http://coord.info/GC32E3K

 

Above is a link to a old cache that has never been found.

 

It would be interesting to know how they are reviewed for solve ability of a cache that is published when this form of mystery cache can get through the review process

 

I am asking as I would have thought that part of the review process was to ensure that it was able to be solved.

 

Maybe if that is the case then some of us who are not a cluey as some CO's would be able to solve the puzzles.

 

If there is no review of how to solve the puzzle then maybe it should be a requirement to include a geochecker to confirm the correct answer.

[+BAMBOOZLE]

In my opinion puzzle solving is not geocaching......leave your computer and search engine behind and go out and find real geocaches and enjoy the outdoors.

Unfortunately there are a ton of them out there taking up the space where real caches could go.

[Pup Patrol]

http://coord.info/GC32E3K

 

Above is a link to a old cache that has never been found.

 

It would be interesting to know how they are reviewed for solve ability of a cache that is published when this form of mystery cache can get through the review process

 

I am asking as I would have thought that part of the review process was to ensure that it was able to be solved.

 

Maybe if that is the case then some of us who are not a cluey as some CO's would be able to solve the puzzles.

 

If there is no review of how to solve the puzzle then maybe it should be a requirement to include a geochecker to confirm the correct answer.

 

A.) That's not an "old" cache.

 

B.) Not long after it was published, the Guidelines for Puzzle/Unknown caches was updated.

 

Guidelines specific to Mystery/Puzzle caches:

 

http://www.geocaching.com/about/guidelines.aspx#mystery

 

Mystery/Puzzle Caches

 

The information needed to solve this type cache must be available to the general community and the puzzle should be solvable from the information provided on the cache page.

 

For many caches of this type, the coordinates listed are not of the actual cache location, but a general reference point, such as a nearby parking location. The posted coordinates should be no more than 1-2 miles (2-3 km) away from the true cache location. This allows the cache to show up on the appropriate vicinity searches and means that the mileage of Trackables passing through the cache will be reasonably accurate. Add the final set of coordinates and any additional waypoints to the cache listing before submitting for review.

 

Before you submit the cache listing, post a Note to Reviewer with an explanation of how the puzzle is solved. This log will auto-delete on publication.

 

Help Center → Geocaching → Review Process: Hiding a Geocache

4.14. Puzzle/Mystery/Unknown

 

updated 15 December 2011

 

http://support.Groundspeak.com/index.php?pg=kb.page&id=277

 

 

B.

Edited June 14, 2013 by Pup Patrol

[+a1elec]

http://coord.info/GC32E3K

 

Above is a link to a old cache that has never been found.

 

It would be interesting to know how they are reviewed for solve ability of a cache that is published when this form of mystery cache can get through the review process

 

I am asking as I would have thought that part of the review process was to ensure that it was able to be solved.

 

Maybe if that is the case then some of us who are not a cluey as some CO's would be able to solve the puzzles.

 

If there is no review of how to solve the puzzle then maybe it should be a requirement to include a geochecker to confirm the correct answer.

 

A.) That's not an "old" cache.

 

B.) Not long after it was published, the Guidelines for Puzzle/Unknown caches was updated.

 

Guidelines specific to Mystery/Puzzle caches:

 

http://www.geocaching.com/about/guidelines.aspx#mystery

 

Mystery/Puzzle Caches

 

The information needed to solve this type cache must be available to the general community and the puzzle should be solvable from the information provided on the cache page.

 

For many caches of this type, the coordinates listed are not of the actual cache location, but a general reference point, such as a nearby parking location. The posted coordinates should be no more than 1-2 miles (2-3 km) away from the true cache location. This allows the cache to show up on the appropriate vicinity searches and means that the mileage of Trackables passing through the cache will be reasonably accurate. Add the final set of coordinates and any additional waypoints to the cache listing before submitting for review.

 

Before you submit the cache listing, post a Note to Reviewer with an explanation of how the puzzle is solved. This log will auto-delete on publication.

 

Help Center → Geocaching → Review Process: Hiding a Geocache

4.14. Puzzle/Mystery/Unknown

 

updated 15 December 2011

 

http://support.Groundspeak.com/index.php?pg=kb.page&id=277

 

 

B.

 

Well not as old as some but still and older cache over 2 year without a find and nothing in the notes I consider that an old cache.

[+BlueDeuce]

Yes, sometimes people can sneak through a bogus cache. Other times a cache can be under-rated for its difficulty level.

 

Did you discuss this with the local reviewer?

 

 

bd

Edited June 14, 2013 by BlueDeuce

[Pup Patrol]

Here's a thread about a truly old cache:

 

http://forums.Groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?showtopic=311580

 

2 years unfound is not really all that big a deal, when you start looking around.

 

 

 

B.

[+Mudfrog]

While it would be nice at times, i don't think there should be any requirement for a geochecker of some sort to be on a cache page. I kinda do agree that proof that a puzzle can be solved should be required when a cache is reviewed. But even with a step by step explanation of the puzzle, a reviewer still may think it is too difficult for the masses and have problems publishing it.

[+kunarion]

http://coord.info/GC32E3K

 

Above is a link to a old cache that has never been found.

 

It would be interesting to know how they are reviewed for solve ability of a cache that is published when this form of mystery cache can get through the review process

 

I am asking as I would have thought that part of the review process was to ensure that it was able to be solved.

 

Maybe if that is the case then some of us who are not a cluey as some CO's would be able to solve the puzzles.

 

If there is no review of how to solve the puzzle then maybe it should be a requirement to include a geochecker to confirm the correct answer.

[+kunarion]

http://coord.info/GC32E3KIf there is no review of how to solve the puzzle then maybe it should be a requirement to include a geochecker to confirm the correct answer.

Once you confirm with Geochecker, will you be traveling from Australia to find it?

 

I think it's OK if there's no Geochecker, if the solution works out to coords near the fake ones. And some "puzzle" caches have the actual coords, no Geochecker needed, the puzzle is a red herring.

 

In many cases, there's a method that may have seemed obvious to the Cache Owner, that most people will never guess. I don't know if reviewers weigh the likelihood of that guess. Note that once it is solved, the cache becomes “found” regularly, like magic.

 

But if the spelling, grammatical, and punctuation errors are not part of the puzzle, it's a bad puzzle. If you don't enjoy it (I don't like that kind), skip it.

Edited June 14, 2013 by kunarion

[+T.D.M.22]

What about GC2D5HE Just under 2 years to be solved, and another 4 months for FTF...at one time it was in the top 10 hardest puzzles on geochecker. Or what about GC2ZG4E by the Same CO. Two years, and has not been solved. Both have Geocahcecker, and it hasn't seemed to help.

 

And how do you say a puzzle is too hard? If I happened to know code ABC and saw the puzzle had code ABC it's easy for me, but not for you. If you happen to read Spanish and the puzzle is written in Spanish, then it would be easy for you but not me. It's the whole “Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

[+The A-Team]

It's the whole “Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

We have smart fish around here.

[+thetoxiczone]

In many cases, there's a method that may have seemed obvious to the Cache Owner, that most people will never guess. I don't know if reviewers weigh the likelihood of that guess. Note that once it is solved, the cache becomes “found” regularly, like magic.

Yes I have set one and it is that way, seems obvious to me, I explained the puzzle to the reviewer in my notes, as is the way of things once explained things can seam obvious to others too. The found regularly thing is odd but I guess it is due to people dropping hints to each other or people see it is solvable so wish to prove they can solve it to.

[+wimseyguy]

There aren't any finds, but there also aren't any DNF's. I don't see any problems with this cache.

Perhaps the OP just wants another platform for his alternate game agenda since his disabled listings back home in Australia aren't getting him any sympathy?

[+Off Grid]

http://coord.info/GC32E3K

 

Above is a link to a old cache that has never been found.

 

It would be interesting to know how they are reviewed for solve ability of a cache that is published when this form of mystery cache can get through the review process

 

I am asking as I would have thought that part of the review process was to ensure that it was able to be solved.

 

Maybe if that is the case then some of us who are not a cluey as some CO's would be able to solve the puzzles.

 

If there is no review of how to solve the puzzle then maybe it should be a requirement to include a geochecker to confirm the correct answer.

I don't even bother with puzzle caches I've showed them to friends family people I hardly know . we both so there shaking our heads saying OK.... Sure ...I'll do that when all the caches on this island are gone than maybe puzzle caches.