thetoxiczone

I have to say I don't tend to log a DNF unless I am sure I look hard enough, I probably need to be more confident as the last one I logged turned out to be a missing cache and boy had I looked for it, plus it only took a minute to find the replacement.

I believe there is another site that does and promotes just this, I have seen instructions on how to prep and "fix" a stick into place so you have to use a USB extension so it can't be taken. As others have stated there is no way I would put one of these into any of my windows computers, I might risk a Linux one, but would not do anything other than text edit or format the drive.

A 400 word essay about the persons day caching that basically says I found 40 odd caches with my mates it was a nice day and I enjoyed the walk and does not say anything about the cache in question actually says your cache was so unmemorable I could not be bothered to say anything about it but I will waffle on about the cows in the field 10 miles away and how I had a laugh with my mates etc etc. So total content relevant to that cache is a blank log or if the log writer actually ended it with Thank You, you have a TFTC padded with 398 words of irrelevant waffle. This is why I feel you can compare most of the really long logs to TFTC because that is all they are saying if that. Just because you write 400 word does not necessarily make the log better than a 4 letter TFTC, in fact they are a long winded way of saying "your cache sucked so much I don't remember which one it was out all the ones I found, oh by the way aren't I great for finding them all", my brains translation. If you wish to write about your day get a blog, and post your TFTC and use the text as a link to the blog at least that way every other cacher after you does not have to scroll past, oh hang on you filled the space, yours is the only log they get on their device. Maybe I will have to start posting logs with 5 paragraphs of Lorem ipsum to up my log size

Thanks for the help, I think my best bet is going to be contact the reviewer and see what their views are, I was thinking of asking the owner to do the maintenance and/or various members of my family when they visit. I was thinking of a larger ammo box, with the log in a clip lock box inside for added protection.

I know of a place that I feel would make a good spot for a larger cache, it is private property but I know the owner so not a problem to get permission. I might also be able to get permission for the other farm land around the area where there is a nice walk I have done many time as a child so a series with clues to the larger one would be ideal, and only 2 caches within miles of the area. The only real issue I see is although I can get there to place the cache(s) with an overnight stay, I can't see myself being able to visit that often to do maintenance. What are the issues with having someone else doing the maintenance, possibly not even a geocacher? The closest cache is this one The Aberdyfi Bandstand

On a cache that is series with copy and paste description that tells me nothing about the cache I really can't be bothered writing a long log, unless there is something special about the cache or I wish to pass on information for the next person or the CO. However on caches that the CO made an effort on that cache I try to write more detail about the cache and my experience with it. When reading logs I would skip a log that tells the life history of the cachers day / trip caching as in general there is nothing about the cache I am viewing, in fact they tell me just as much as a TFTC, and as on my GPSr it is not that simple to scroll passed a long log like that looking for more of a hint. Also if you C&P the log over all the caches you found it is just awful to read the same thing every time, think quality not quantity IMHO.

I always figure the trade is an average thing, some time it is up sometimes it is down but on average you should aim for even or up, I am not going to say to my kids sorry no you can't trade what we have for that (they are not going to take a GPSr, I would to the the local police station as I would assume it had been lost). So far it has been up old and grubby McJunk & McToys for new McToys, pens, fancy rubbers (erasers), Polished stone would be good, dead currency also (those replaced by the Euro for example) although not sure what we could trade for on the coins. Remember kids wish to trade for kids treasure, so what is one persons junk is treasure for another. Oh and my 5 and 7 year old complained that this year we are not going on a walking holiday so don't assume a cache on a hike will not get kids, they are the reason I have a GPS.

Yes I have set one and it is that way, seems obvious to me, I explained the puzzle to the reviewer in my notes, as is the way of things once explained things can seam obvious to others too. The found regularly thing is odd but I guess it is due to people dropping hints to each other or people see it is solvable so wish to prove they can solve it to.

I don't think I would do it, and I would like to know up front so don't I get the first clue and find out the next clue is 2 or more miles away. Something like you will have to travel x miles is total or the final location is near town y.

When caching with the kids I try to find larger caches for the swag, we always trade stuff equally if possible, although half the time what is put in I would prefer to let the kids have and leave the junk in the cache, but the kids like to trade. When on my own I don't trade, nothing in nothing out. So for me I like to see kid friendly stuff, that will survive cache life so not stickers, my kids like those but they not good after a few days or weeks in a slightly damp cache. Small plastic toys, marbles, plastic treasure coins (not geocoins but play money) are the best thing we have found they see it as real treasure what ever it is. We found you can get stuff for kids party bags that seams to be the right size and equal trade-able with the stuff the kids like, I think others locally have found the same thing.

I think a 200-finds-in-a-day challenge cache would still be allowable. It can be accomplished on a large number of power trails. Furthermore, "Best Day" (i.e. most caches found in a day) is displayed on your geocaching.com profile statistics. One aspect about challenge caches that doesn't get talked about a lot is location. There are many places where finding 200 caches is possible and placing a "Find 200 caches" challenge near one of the those locations makes it viable since those that would likely be able to find the challenge cache live in a area with a lot of caches. However, in many (most) places in the world finding 200 caches in a day would not be feasible unless one traveled a great distance, thus it wouldn't make sense to place a "Find 200 caches a day" challenge in one of those locations. Most of the countries in the world don't have 200 caches total in the entire country, thus placing a 200 finds cache in one of those countries would effectively excluded every cacher in those countries unless they were able to travel to someplace where finding 200 caches in a day was actually achievable. These are called "challenge caches" for a reason. In my opinion, i should be able to set one up that actually provides a challenge but there are so many guidelines that it is almost impossible to do these days. If i want to set out a challenge where only one person out of a million can complete it, then that should be my perogative. I cannot figure out why this is an issue for gc.com. Because it would be a waste of resources? In addition to the creation of cache listing on the site for a cache that only one in a million would be eligible, I can imagine that many reviewers would get pretty tired reviewing caches that only one person in a million could find. Challenge caches have become pretty popular in some areas, and I think one of the main reasons that the guidelines have become more strict was to prevent the "let's see if I can come up with a challenge that nobody will be able complete" mentality that, as I see it, doesn't serve any useful purpopse. Okay I am sorry I mentioned it.

You're not visiting the same caches as I have recently have you or is this a common thing. Oh and it is annoying very annoying.

You want a poor example to others a team doing a challenge "found" the team members caches to get the challenge, one of them I could not find before and after I found it where I had looked, I can only guess they maintained there own caches and logged them as found, including replacing missing caches. I am impressed at the 60+km they walked in one day but I doubt others could do it and spend time actually finding the caches, unless they did throw downs.

As the owner of puzzle caches (and am planning more) I am finding this interesting, IMO if you find my caches well done, how you solved it does not bother me. I like puzzles I have solved a few near me that I have not gone and got the cache as they are away from my normal routes but I will pick them up at some point. They also have a uses put a cache is a location and you get a mad rush to get the FTF, also a cache will bring more people than normal to a spot this has an impact on the location, a good puzzle will slow that.

Log it as needs archiving as it does.

Mass placement with copy and paste descriptions, okay you have placed 100+ caches on a long walk, 99% are micro, the result is coordinates that are not averaged, so you have to use the hint, that ends up being "base", or "left hand side" on the ones when the coordinates are really bad. CO logging their own cache, or just being a member of a team "finding" those caches err sorry you know where the caches is meant to be just explain to me how you found it again.

Yep, I would also argue the one that requires 200 finds in a day is also not, going by this guide, if I was to walk it and each cache was at the minimum distance from the next, then that is 32km. err "A challenge cache may not specifically exclude any segment of geocachers.", as 200 in a day specifically excludes anybody that can't travel between that many caches in a day.

When I have posted my caches there was a link that gave a rating guide. Try this http://www.geocaching.com/hide/rate.aspx

I think the first rule is you must have met the requirements or can prove that other have also they can still do so.

Religions are best avoided, just like politics, and a puzzle on religions is not likely to change anybodies view although it might teach them some thing they did not know but you would need to be sure on your facts. For example my understanding is in Christianity Jesus was the son of God, in Islam he was just a messenger of God, and Jewish he was not either, and atheists think they are all deluded, a different view than another poster so who is right. None of them will see eye to eye, and that is with three religions the have the same root and technically the same God, Christianity has a number of versions with different views. If you add Buddhism, Hindu to name a few others there is even Scientology, and then do you start to include religions that are considered cults.

I hate to log a DNF and if I do I tend to blame myself in the log, and would have visited the site a number of times, I am more likely to do it on a larger cache than a small one. The last one I logged I made a bit of a joke about the cache as I knew it was a well camouflaged one, that the title gave a clue to what it was as in what sort of animal might take it, so I suggested said animal had taken it or I needed my eyes testing, but I had search the area 6 or more times and spend well over 3 hour to try and find it. The CO confirmed it was missing just wished I had logged the issue sooner, I also felt really bad as I also logged another one of his as NM as I happened to look at where it had been, in plain sight but you would not think anything of it.

I have logged a cache without writing in the log, in my defence we had just taken a photo of the kids holding the cache but then needed to get away fast as is the way with caching with kids, oh and it was just a clip lock box so yes we could get inside. I have also lost my pen on route once so used the photo method but I would never do that with a cache that required me to open the box unless I actually had opened the box and shown that in the photo. FTF is another matter as how do you prove yours was first, only one way.

Okay I have put off posting on this for a while, but as another post has stated. "The cache is problematic due to its proximity to a public structure, including and not limited to, highway bridges, major roadways, dams, government buildings, schools, military installations, hospitals, airports and other such locations." You put it near a small sub-station (as they are known in my country) they either transform the high voltage distribution to the lower voltages, or it could be a sort of large junction box with or without remote switching. Either way I see that as a public structure even if belongs to the power company, have you any idea what it supplies, maybe traffic lights or something else sensitive, or maybe just a whole load of houses.

Thanks for the replies, they know they have not found the real location after I checked thing and they have removed the FTF log on the on-line record. I have a checker on the puzzle they got the wrong answer and it said no but happened to be in the area and spotted 20m away a location that matched the hint and found a cache the distance between the two is about 325m. There must be hundreds of ways to incorrectly solve a puzzle can some might land on another cache location so there is no way for me to predict that. I think I will give up on the location although it was one of the best suburban cache location I have found, just hope they used pencil as being a nano (1.5cm x 1cm) I don't think I can make a log to fit it as well as the supplied logs.

I have been planning a set of puzzle caches in my local area, it turns out a incorrect solution to one cache is within 20m of one I have placed and due to the container type and being an suburban cache the hint fitted resulting in the find. The choices I see are: 1) remove the cache, erase if I can or bin the nano cache log and forget the location. 2) forget the puzzle publish it as a traditional 3) publish it as some sort of bonus cache, not even sure if that is allowed. Any other ideas?