+Shrek & Fiona Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 I am using a macbook pro and I put windows on it so I could use gsak well I did not like using it that way and I have had no luck getting anyone to write a program like gsak for the mac . now I am looking for some thing small and with a usb port and have IE so it can run the api on geocaching page any thoughts anyone thanks. Quote Link to comment
+Walts Hunting Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Small laptop from bestbuy for $400 does the job, What don't you like about your setup. I am thinking about a MacBook air and boot campomg windows 7. Does it. It work somehow. Quote Link to comment
+crunchewy Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 I use a MacBook Air, as well as a Mac mini, and the Mac garmin software and it works well. I use the Garmin plugin with Safari to put individual caches on my 62sc via the geocaching website which works as advertised, and also I copy pocket query GPX files directly on the GPS via drag and drop. Install maps with the Garmin software. Etc. I have not tried it yet, but I have VMWare Fusion and Windows XP installed in a VM. I have had good luck with Fusion including with oddball hardware (like using some software that can drive the Rock Band stage kit , so I have no reason to believe it wouldn't work if I wanted to go that route. To me that's preferable to boot camp as I don't need to reboot into Windows and back. Just launch Fusion. Quote Link to comment
+dakboy Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 I have had no luck getting anyone to write a program like gsak for the maWell, how much were you going to pay them for it? No one is going to write software with such a limited market and a complex featureset out of the goodness of their heart. In what way did you not like using Windows on your MBP? I've used XP on my MacBook with VMWare Fusion for several years now just for GSAK and it's worked quite well. Maybe not as fast as running it "native" due to the I/O speed (as much the fault of the 5 year old hard drive as anything else), but it's acceptable. Quote Link to comment
+Shrek & Fiona Posted August 27, 2012 Author Share Posted August 27, 2012 I used parallels and xp sp2 it worked but at times it took along time for the computer to come on and it seemed to strugle to back and forth to windows. and for the software i tried to talk someone into makeing a program and then they can manage it and sell it like gsak is Quote Link to comment
+Gob-ler Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 I am running GSAK on my MacBook Pro under VMWare with no problems at all. Very stable and fast. I was using a netbook previously and did not care for the slowness of the netbook. Maybe things have gotten faster since then with the netbook stuff. Before VMWare I ran windows as a separate OS for the Mac with no problems. You do have options. Quote Link to comment
+dakboy Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 (edited) I used parallels and xp sp2 it worked but at times it took along time for the computer to come on and it seemed to strugle to back and forth to windows.Then you either don't have enough available memory in the host computer, or you didn't allocate enough to the VM. I never power my VM off, and only reboot it when updates require such. If I'm not using the VM, I just pause it. Parallels must have this feature. and for the software i tried to talk someone into makeing a program and then they can manage it and sell it like gsak is And they didn't want to put hundreds (probably over a thousand) of hours of spec work into a product that will go into a very small niche market that already has a very dominant player? I'm shocked! Edited August 27, 2012 by dakboy Quote Link to comment
+crunchewy Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 VMs require more memory than you might have. Also, Parallels is awful software IMHO. I would recommend VMWare Fusion over Parallels any day. However you're still going to need at least 4 GB of RAM, so if you don't have that much you're going to need an upgrade. Or you can go the Boot Camp route. Quote Link to comment
+WizzardPrang Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 I'm currently trialling two ways of running GSAK on my Mac: 1. Running GSAK on Windows7 in a VM, I'm using VirtualBox (from Oracle) which is similar to VMWare or Parallels,except it's free. I'd suggest it's worth trying to see how you like the concept before forking out for VMWare or Parallels. (You still need a copy of Windows of course). 2. Running GSAK in Crossover (from Codeweavers). So far I've not been able to get GSAK to connect to geocaching.com using the API. Other than the GSAK experiments above, I've only ever used a Mac for my caching needs. I find Garmin's Basecamp to be a useful tool. Quote Link to comment
+dakboy Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 I'm currently trialling two ways of running GSAK on my Mac: 1. Running GSAK on Windows7 in a VM, I'm using VirtualBox (from Oracle) which is similar to VMWare or Parallels,except it's free. I'd suggest it's worth trying to see how you like the concept before forking out for VMWare or Parallels. (You still need a copy of Windows of course). Both Parallels & VMWare offer free 30-day trials so you can compare them to VirtualBox before you make a final decision. Personally, I found VBox lacking in performance and polish, but it's been a few years since I looked at it. Quote Link to comment
+Shrek & Fiona Posted August 30, 2012 Author Share Posted August 30, 2012 (edited) it may be that I need to add more ram and if I figure out how to check it I will and try paralels again now I have looked into the memory macbook pro 17" processer 2.5 ghz intel core 2 duo memory 2 gb 667 mhz ddr2 sdram start up disk macintosh HD now it looks like all I can up grade to is 4 gb right ? where would u buy your mac memory from apple or 3rd party Edited August 31, 2012 by Shrek & Fiona Quote Link to comment
+crunchewy Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 (edited) Crucial makes very good memory modules. They are not the cheapest, but they are good and they are still cheaper than getting them from Apple. http://www.crucial.com/ Edited August 31, 2012 by crunchewy Quote Link to comment
+dakboy Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 it may be that I need to add more ram and if I figure out how to check it I will and try paralels again now I have looked into the memory macbook pro 17" processer 2.5 ghz intel core 2 duo memory 2 gb 667 mhz ddr2 sdram start up disk macintosh HD now it looks like all I can up grade to is 4 gb right ? where would u buy your mac memory from apple or 3rd party Except for the Retina & Air models, never buy your RAM from Apple. It's a ripoff. A Core 2 Duo 17" Macbook Pro? That's at least 2 years old and will not run the current OS X (Mountain Lion). If you're looking to buy a new machine, shop new or the refurb section of Apple's online store. It may be possible upgrade that 17" to 8GB, but it depends on other factors. It might be an "unofficial" support, so Apple won't tell you; Crucial's RAM finder may. You can upgrade the Core i5/i7 models to 8GB for under $40 via Newegg, 16GB for under $100. Quote Link to comment
robertlipe Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Most of the advice above is spot-on. VMs are memory hungry as you're running a complete OS within another OS. A Core 2 Duo 17" Macbook Pro? That's at least 2 years old and will not run the current OS X (Mountain Lion). Most of the C2D systems run ML fine. See http://www.apple.com/osx/specs/ for the final word. I'm typing this on a five year old Core 2 Duo system running Mountain Lion. Admittedly, it's about the oldest system that'll run ML. Quote Link to comment
+WizzardPrang Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Both Parallels & VMWare offer free 30-day trials so you can compare them to VirtualBox before you make a final decision. Personally, I found VBox lacking in performance and polish, but it's been a few years since I looked at it. That's good to know, I'll give them a spin. Quote Link to comment
+dakboy Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 Most of the advice above is spot-on. VMs are memory hungry as you're running a complete OS within another OS. A Core 2 Duo 17" Macbook Pro? That's at least 2 years old and will not run the current OS X (Mountain Lion). Most of the C2D systems run ML fine. See http://www.apple.com/osx/specs/ for the final word. I'm typing this on a five year old Core 2 Duo system running Mountain Lion. Admittedly, it's about the oldest system that'll run ML. My mistake, I was told that my 5 year old MacBook (C2D, Santa Rosa) couldn't run ML (and per that link, that is true), so I jumped to the conclusion that all systems of that vintage weren't capable. Apparently the MacBook released immediately after mine can run it. Quote Link to comment
TScott27 Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 It has always been a well-founded rule of mine to never buy parts/accessories/etc directly from the manufacturers. You can expect these things to be costly when you buy it from them. Anyway, a newer Mac may solve your problem. Quote Link to comment
+sduck Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Two ideas if you need gsak functionality on a mac - I too have tried crossover, vmware, bootcamp, etc. The bootcamp solution works the best of those, but it's also a pain to set up and switch between. I currently run GSAK in a native mac os app, that lives in my dock, and works mostly similar to a native mac app. How - winebottler. I don't recommend this to anyone who isn't fairly technically proficient, as it takes a bit of trial and error (and/or web sleuthing) to get it set up, but once you do, it works really nicely. It's not a complete solution, - all kinds of little parts of the complete gak experience don't work right, depending on how able you are in setting up wine extensions, but for basic use it works well. I can load up a big collection of pq's, perform all kinds of filtering and sorting and such, and output a nice little gpx file I can load on my oregon easily. Another native mac app that has a quite a bit of gsak functionality is iCaching - find it in the app store. It takes a bit of getting used to, as it works in different ways, but seems to be fairly complete, and still has an active developer - it's not abandonware yet, like so many mac geocaching apps. Quote Link to comment
+Shrek & Fiona Posted September 4, 2012 Author Share Posted September 4, 2012 will take a look at icaching . I did try wine bottler and just was not able to get the usb to work . thanks to every one for the help and tips Quote Link to comment
+sduck Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 Yes, usb support in winebottler is iffy. If you can live without it, it's still an excellent alternative. With my oregon, I just export gpx files from gsak to the desktop, and then load them to the oregon from there. Quote Link to comment
+Walts Hunting Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 iCaching looks pretty decent but lacks the filtering ability that GSAK plus you can't upload your 40 finds via API, or update your bookmark lists such as ignore that way. The lack of that ability is a deal breaker for me. When I transition to MAC i will probably boot camp it since the only time I will be there is for GSAK. Quote Link to comment
+Shrek & Fiona Posted September 12, 2012 Author Share Posted September 12, 2012 going to try it again I loaded parallels and windows xp sp2 again this time i loaded it as a mac so there is a folder right next to all the other icons so it works just like it is a mac rather than windows then I put an old version of map source on here to and it seems to lock so that would mean i need more ram seeing how my mapsource is so old it wont send to my oregon 550 cause it is usb and it wont save a gpx to the desk top either if it would do that I could drag and drop it to the gps anyone have any ideas or suggestions on how to operate this setup I have thanks Quote Link to comment
+Walts Hunting Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 Why not get the newest version of Mapsource. I use it exclusively foe mapping and just tested it for saving a gpx to desktop and sending caches to the Montana. Quote Link to comment
+AeroMechAZ Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 I am using a macbook pro and I put windows on it so I could use gsak well I did not like using it that way and I have had no luck getting anyone to write a program like gsak for the mac . now I am looking for some thing small and with a usb port and have IE so it can run the api on geocaching page any thoughts anyone thanks. I have an iMac and I just found a nice app for it that seems to work (almost) exactly like GSAK does on Windows. It's called (DUH!) "iCache"; it's a $15 app from the App Store. I'm still learning how to use it on the Mac, but so far it has a number of GSAK's same features (cache page lookup, description lookup, etc.) Quote Link to comment
+Walts Hunting Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 I am using a macbook pro and I put windows on it so I could use gsak well I did not like using it that way and I have had no luck getting anyone to write a program like gsak for the mac . now I am looking for some thing small and with a usb port and have IE so it can run the api on geocaching page any thoughts anyone thanks. I have an iMac and I just found a nice app for it that seems to work (almost) exactly like GSAK does on Windows. It's called (DUH!) "iCache"; it's a $15 app from the App Store. I'm still learning how to use it on the Mac, but so far it has a number of GSAK's same features (cache page lookup, description lookup, etc.) Does it have the ability to filter on all issues (size, terrain, difficulty, type, etc)? Does it have access to the API to log all 100 caches i do in a day at one time? Does it import the geocache_visits file from my Garmin and mark the caches in the DB as Found ot DNF'de? Can you have multiple databases i.e. Found, California,Vacation, Unknowns etc? Quote Link to comment
+schallers Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 i tried to install GSAK with WineBottler on my Mac running the latest OS. Is it normal, that connecting to geocaching.com isn't possible with GSAK and Wine? There is no error or something, but the Connecting-Wheel turns forever.... Are there some tricks to get GSAK running on Mac? Simon Quote Link to comment
+Shrek & Fiona Posted October 20, 2012 Author Share Posted October 20, 2012 I had a hard time with wine so I went to parallels you may need to install the latest internet explorer Quote Link to comment
+schallers Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 the problem with parallels is, that i need a Windows, which i don't have so i tried with Wine and CrossOver. You mean, i need to install internet Explorer in Wine or in Parallels? Thanks! Quote Link to comment
+sduck Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 i tried to install GSAK with WineBottler on my Mac running the latest OS. Is it normal, that connecting to geocaching.com isn't possible with GSAK and Wine? There is no error or something, but the Connecting-Wheel turns forever.... Are there some tricks to get GSAK running on Mac? Simon No, I can't get full functionality with the winebottler version of gsak either. If you pretend it's an older version of gsak, and don't use the usb connectivity, it works fine. I haven't used a pc with any kind of regularity since about 2005, so most of the gsak upgrades since then have missed me, so I don't miss them too much. I just download my pq's manually, load them into gsak, do whatever sorting and parsing I need to do, generate whatever gpx files I need to load onto my gps's to the desktop, and then load them onto the gps's manually. It's kind of a pain, but it's still faster than rebooting into windows. And much as I'd like to love iCaching, there are too many things it doesn't do that a bare bones version of gsak can do, like exporting just child waypoints (for my magellan explorist). Quote Link to comment
+Shrek & Fiona Posted October 21, 2012 Author Share Posted October 21, 2012 I am not sure but I think for gsak to talk to geocaching dot com on win bottler you would need IE because I had to put it on parallels Quote Link to comment
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