MapSource unable to save GPX

May 22, 2009

I recently upgraded my copy of Garmin MapSource to 6.15.6. Since then, I can almost never save data that I download from my GPSr as a GPX. MapSource crashes when I try. My GPSr is an etrex Venture HC.

I have contacted Garmin. They had me send them a GDB that I couldn't convert and save. They don't have any trouble with it. At their request, I upgraded my other PC - no good - now I don't have any "working" copy of MapSource at all.

I can download and save as GDBs all day long. These downloaded and saved GDBs fail to save as GPX. If I open a GPX, I have no trouble re-saving it.

Has anyone else seen this problem?

6.4k · May 22, 2009

Nope, works fine for me.

You can always install an older version. It does not hurt anything.

Maybe send or post up a sample file.

Edited May 22, 2009 by Red90

1.9k · May 22, 2009

I just tried on a large tracklog that I'd previously saved as a GDB and sure enough it crashed Mapsource 6.15.6. So I'll next try reopening the RAW gpx from my CO 300 and see if it crashes w/o the intermediate GDB save.

1.9k · May 22, 2009

My limited test confirmed my hunch. If you first save a file as a GDB then try to save the same file as a GPX it will crash Mapsource. However, if you only save as a GPX, no crash.

Red90, please see if you can confirm my results. To the OP, thanks for the heads up.

6.4k · May 22, 2009

Nope, no crash here.

I save to GPX all the time. I've never had a problem. I just tested on a GDB with 50000 points, no crash.

1.9k · May 22, 2009

Turns out it's the waypoints, not the tracks.

- Open a tracklog with waypoints in Mapsource 6.15.6.

- Save that as a GDB

- Open that file in Mapsource 6.15.6

- Delete the tracks and save as a GPX, it'll crash

- Open again and delete the waypoints, then save as a GPX, it won't crash.

Who'd thunk?!?!?

Edited May 22, 2009 by MtnHermit

6.4k · May 22, 2009

The ultimate torture test.

The entire TransCanada Trail Database. Over 6000 separate track logs and God knows how many points. It took 3 minutes to save the GPX file. No crash. You guys have some other influence. I'm on XP Pro. What about you guys?

Edited May 22, 2009 by Red90

1.9k · May 22, 2009

The ultimate torture test.

Your ultimate has zero waypoints.

6.4k · May 22, 2009

I save GPX files every week with 2000 waypoints for use in my Nuvi 5000 as I like having categories. Never had a crash.

Here is 500+. I can try a really big one later and check.

1.9k · May 22, 2009

I save GPX files every week with 2000 waypoints for use in my Nuvi 5000 as I like having categories. Never had a crash.

Did you take the intermediate step of saving to GDB? If not, then no crash.

Follow the steps I listed above, file size is unimportant.

1.9k · May 22, 2009

NOT STARTING A CONVERSATION

Worldwide there seems to be a misunderstanding what is a waypoint.

A track is a sequence of waypoints, a trackpoint differs only because of the prefix in the gpsmade file

trkpt vs wpt

In this case we should talk about problems with a waypoint.gpx/gdb file or a track.gpx/gdb file

1.9k · May 22, 2009

Could someone please try these exact steps in Mapsource 6.15.6 and see if it crashes.

1.9k · May 22, 2009

The reply from Garmin:

Thanks for the message. We received word from the MapSource engineers
that this will be fixed for the next MapSource version release. I'm not

exactly sure when that will be, but I would check back here

periodically:

http://www8.garmin.com/support/download_details.jsp?id=209

Thank you again for your interest in Garmin GPS.

http://www8.garmin.com/cartography/

Best regards,

Loy

mailto:cartography@garmin.com

May 23, 2009

Thanks for taking time to look into this. I'm glad that Garmin is admitting there is a problem, at least to someone. Unfortunately, even skipping the "save as gdb" step doesn't help me. It still crashes.

I would be happy to share a a gdb that causes a problem on my system, but I have nowhere to upload it to. My ISP recently changed their personal web page policies and they no longer provide ftp access. Web pages must be created/modified online using their tools. I can upload videos and music but nothing else.

I found version 6.15.4 of MapSource on CNet. If that doesn't help me, where I can find a different version?

6.4k · May 23, 2009

PM me and I'll giveyou my email to send a test file to.

All old versions are here: http://www.gpsinformation.org/perry/msource/

6.4k · May 23, 2009

Turns out it's the waypoints, not the tracks.

- Open a tracklog with waypoints in Mapsource 6.15.6.

- Save that as a GDB

- Open that file in Mapsource 6.15.6

- Delete the tracks and save as a GPX, it'll crash

- Open again and delete the waypoints, then save as a GPX, it won't crash.

Who'd thunk?!?!?

I followed these steps to the letter.

It still did NOT crash. Seriously.

May 23, 2009

Turns out it's the waypoints, not the tracks.

- Open a tracklog with waypoints in Mapsource 6.15.6.

- Save that as a GDB

- Open that file in Mapsource 6.15.6

- Delete the tracks and save as a GPX, it'll crash

- Open again and delete the waypoints, then save as a GPX, it won't crash.

Who'd thunk?!?!?

I followed these steps to the letter.

It still did NOT crash. Seriously.

No crash here either. I even tried GDB Version 3 & V2 to see if it made a difference, it didn't. I'm running Vista Business.

1.9k · May 23, 2009

I followed these steps to the letter.

It still did NOT crash. Seriously.

I have no explanation, it'll consistently crash for me.

Thanks for the test.

May 23, 2009

I recently upgraded my copy of Garmin MapSource to 6.15.6. Since then, I can almost never save data that I download from my GPSr as a GPX. MapSource crashes when I try. My GPSr is an etrex Venture HC.

I have contacted Garmin. They had me send them a GDB that I couldn't convert and save. They don't have any trouble with it. At their request, I upgraded my other PC - no good - now I don't have any "working" copy of MapSource at all.

I can download and save as GDBs all day long. These downloaded and saved GDBs fail to save as GPX. If I open a GPX, I have no trouble re-saving it.

Has anyone else seen this problem?

I have the exact same problem with 6.15.6 which is loaded on two different computers. Neither will save as a gpx file, either from a virgin download from my 76CSx or by calling up a gdb and trying to resave as a gpx file. I also contacted Garmin and sent them a gdb which they had no problem saving as a gpx. I reported this problem on this forum several months ago via a friend because I was having problems accessing this forum.

May 24, 2009

I recently upgraded my copy of Garmin MapSource to 6.15.6. Since then, I can almost never save data that I download from my GPSr as a GPX. MapSource crashes when I try. My GPSr is an etrex Venture HC.

I have contacted Garmin. They had me send them a GDB that I couldn't convert and save. They don't have any trouble with it. At their request, I upgraded my other PC - no good - now I don't have any "working" copy of MapSource at all.

I can download and save as GDBs all day long. These downloaded and saved GDBs fail to save as GPX. If I open a GPX, I have no trouble re-saving it.

Has anyone else seen this problem?

I have this problem with 6.15.6 too. I can't get it to save tracks from my Garmin etrex summit in gpx format, everything else seems to work okay. Is there any work around (e.g. using Google Earth or something like that)?

6.4k · May 24, 2009

You could save as a GDB and then convert with something like GPSBabel.

May 25, 2009

You could save as a GDB and then convert with something like GPSBabel.

Thanks, that works. It's not nice, but it is at least usable.

May 26, 2009

I am also unable to convert GDB files to GPX once they have been saved. If I save the file as GPX initially then I am ok. It is frustrating because I had planned out several routes for a recent bike trip and I could not load them as GDB files to my Edge 705, I had to redo all the routes and save them as GPX in order to load them.

June 5, 2009

Glad I found this thread as I am having the same problem, on a PC with vista -home installed I can not save to GPX files or convert a GBD file to GPS as in both cases mapsource crashes. Version 6.15.6 of mapsource.

However I have no problems on a Windows XP machine with the same version of mapsource.

Can anyone else confirm if they are having this issue on Vista and not XP ?

June 5, 2009

Glad I found this thread as I am having the same problem, on a PC with vista -home installed I can not save to GPX files or convert a GBD file to GPS as in both cases mapsource crashes. Version 6.15.6 of mapsource.

However I have no problems on a Windows XP machine with the same version of mapsource.

Can anyone else confirm if they are having this issue on Vista and not XP ?

I have two machines with Windows XP (Professional and Home Edition) and cannot save GPX files with either. I also am using version 6.15.6.

June 28, 2009

Hi Try this.

See if you have altitude info in the waypoint properties in mapsource. Check the altitude box. GPx file can be saved.Must have no Altitude info to save as GPx., working for me anyway.

Edited June 28, 2009 by The Rambling Duo

2.6k · June 28, 2009

Turns out it's the waypoints, not the tracks.

- Open a tracklog with waypoints in Mapsource 6.15.6.

- Save that as a GDB

- Open that file in Mapsource 6.15.6

- Delete the tracks and save as a GPX, it'll crash

- Open again and delete the waypoints, then save as a GPX, it won't crash.

Who'd thunk?!?!?

I followed these steps to the letter.

It still did NOT crash. Seriously.

I couldn't make it crash either. There's something else going on. The waypoints have altitude or depth set, it doesn't matter...

June 30, 2009

Glad I found this thread as I am having the same problem, on a PC with vista -home installed I can not save to GPX files or convert a GBD file to GPS as in both cases mapsource crashes. Version 6.15.6 of mapsource.

However I have no problems on a Windows XP machine with the same version of mapsource.

Can anyone else confirm if they are having this issue on Vista and not XP ?

I have two machines with Windows XP (Professional and Home Edition) and cannot save GPX files with either. I also am using version 6.15.6.

I have found that if you select No Map from View/Switch to Product that I can save in GPX format.

June 30, 2009

Glad I found this thread as I am having the same problem, on a PC with vista -home installed I can not save to GPX files or convert a GBD file to GPS as in both cases mapsource crashes. Version 6.15.6 of mapsource.

However I have no problems on a Windows XP machine with the same version of mapsource.

Can anyone else confirm if they are having this issue on Vista and not XP ?

I have two machines with Windows XP (Professional and Home Edition) and cannot save GPX files with either. I also am using version 6.15.6.

I have found that if you select No Map from View/Switch to Product that I can save in GPX format.

July 2, 2009

Glad I found this thread as I am having the same problem, on a PC with vista -home installed I can not save to GPX files or convert a GBD file to GPS as in both cases mapsource crashes. Version 6.15.6 of mapsource.

However I have no problems on a Windows XP machine with the same version of mapsource.

Can anyone else confirm if they are having this issue on Vista and not XP ?

I have two machines with Windows XP (Professional and Home Edition) and cannot save GPX files with either. I also am using version 6.15.6.

I have found that if you select No Map from View/Switch to Product that I can save in GPX format.

I tried your procedure, but alas, it did not work for me. I still cannot save GPS in MapSource 6.15.6.

July 2, 2009

Glad I found this thread as I am having the same problem, on a PC with vista -home installed I can not save to GPX files or convert a GBD file to GPS as in both cases mapsource crashes. Version 6.15.6 of mapsource.

However I have no problems on a Windows XP machine with the same version of mapsource.

Can anyone else confirm if they are having this issue on Vista and not XP ?

I have two machines with Windows XP (Professional and Home Edition) and cannot save GPX files with either. I also am using version 6.15.6.

I have found that if you select No Map from View/Switch to Product that I can save in GPX format.

I tried your procedure, but alas, it did not work for me. I still cannot save GPS in MapSource 6.15.6.

Oops, typo. I meant GPX, of course.

1.9k · July 2, 2009

I have found that if you select No Map from View/Switch to Product that I can save in GPX format.

Not exactly sure what you're doing?

I opened a gdb in Mapsource 6.15.6 and selected View > Hide GPS Map Detail, the map disappeared, but some map POI's remained. I then tried to save the track as a gpx, Mapsource crashed.

Please be very specific in the steps you used.

July 4, 2009

Do you need to buy Mapsource as I have a Oregon 400t, all I have is map update 2008 for my Nuvi 350 and no mapsource software on CD. I would like to add some of the maps of the southeast on my Oregon 400t.

1.9k · July 4, 2009

Do you need to buy Mapsource as I have a Oregon 400t, all I have is map update 2008 for my Nuvi 350 and no mapsource software on CD. I would like to add some of the maps of the southeast on my Oregon 400t.

Did your 400T come with a CD? If so, Mapsource is on that CD.

If not, download Training Center? and install, then download the latest version of MS and install over TC. Free!!!

July 5, 2009

I have found that if you select No Map from View/Switch to Product that I can save in GPX format.
Not exactly sure what you're doing?

I opened a gdb in Mapsource 6.15.6 and selected View > Hide GPS Map Detail, the map disappeared, but some map POI's remained. I then tried to save the track as a gpx, Mapsource crashed.

Please be very specific in the steps you used.

I have Mapsource 6.15.6.

From View I have an option called Switch to Product.

From Switch to Product I have an option called No Map.

With No Map selected I am able to Save As in gpx format without producing a crash.

1.9k · July 5, 2009

I have Mapsource 6.15.6.
From View I have an option called Switch to Product.

From Switch to Product I have an option called No Map.

With No Map selected I am able to Save As in gpx format without producing a crash.

Works exactly as you describe: No map -- No Crash, with map -- Crash!!!

Thanks

Now I wonder if Red90 can duplicate these results? Are you listening Mr 1990 Red Land Crusher?

6.4k · July 9, 2009

I can not get it to crash no matter what I do... I've tried it on 3 different computers. Never a crash.

And it is not a Land Crusher. "90" does not refer to the year. That is your new hint.

1.9k · July 9, 2009

I give up, no crash and no idea even with the new hint. I'm a total failure! :blink:

6.4k · July 9, 2009

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_Rover_De...ety_.26_One_Ten

3.5k · July 10, 2009

I installed new version of Mapsource on my laptop and consistantly crashed when trying to save as GPX, but not opening a gpx file. Generally I was trying to save tracks from my GPS as gpx files. It would crash. So I tried creating a waypoint with mapsource and trying to save that as a GPX and it would crash. I went back to an older version and it now works fine.

1.9k · July 11, 2009

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_Rover_De...ety_.26_One_Ten

By god I've got it!!!

A Land Rover Ninety, with 93 inch (2.362 m) wheelbase, perhaps red in color like the avatar. See what a sledgehammer hint can do. :anitongue:

July 11, 2009

I crash consistently when saving as GPX regardless of waypoints (unhandled Win32 exception)

Windows Vista Ultimate SP1
Mapsource 6.15.6
TopoCanada v2

I also tried Windows XP compatability mode, no joy

The NoMap trick worked once for me, and then once I had done that successfully I could go back to TopoCanada and save. But now I can't reproduce, back to crashing.

When I debug with Visual Studio 2008 it says "Unhandled exception, access violation reading location 0x00000000" so there's an uninitialized NULL pointer. I speculate that some action or option before saving GPX is the reason it works for some and not others.

I discovered this workaround and it seems repeatable:

Start MapSource (regardless of which map loaded)
File / open any GDB file
File / open any GPX file
File / open the GDB file again
File / save as GPX works ok
Any subsequent save as GPX in the session works ok so whatever uninitialized variable is at fault is touched by simply loading any GPX

Good to see you Red90, now I know the rest of the story ;-`) Where did you find the Trans Canada Trail tracks?

6.4k · July 11, 2009

Where did you find the Trans Canada Trail tracks?

I can't recall exactly how it went, but someone sent me the whole database which they got from the society. It is a real mess.

You can DL by province at their website. http://www.tctrail.ca/tlocator/tlocator_en.html

1k · July 11, 2009

Use GPSBable to convert GDB to GPX

July 11, 2009

Use GPSBable to convert GDB to GPX

Yes I know, but it's a pain when you're doing a lot of trimming and editing and saving. I'll do a dozen or more in a session. I would rather not have any GDB files, just the industry-standard ones.

My suggestion looks complicated but it's really not, open, open, and then start load/edit/save over and over again without concern of this crash.

Edited July 11, 2009 by gadzuk

July 13, 2009

I'm of course having the exact same problem. ever since April I have been unable to save a .gpx without mapsource crashing. I can save when I need using EasyGPS, but I liked using Mapsource so I could more easily edit the tracks when I could see it overlaid on a map (to make it easy to post to Google Earth for example). It is frustrating that this seems to be a major issue, yet it hasn't been addresses, fixed, and the buggy version is still available for everyone. I tried uninstalling and then running the install for an older version, yet when Mapsource opens it is still 6.15.6

July 13, 2009

I'm of course having the exact same problem. ever since April I have been unable to save a .gpx without mapsource crashing.

Agree, frustrating that they would leave this for so long. Vista?

Try this workaround:

•Start MapSource (regardless of which map loaded)

•File / open any GDB file

•File / open any GPX file

•File / open the GDB file again

•File / save as GPX works ok

July 14, 2009

I'm of course having the exact same problem. ever since April I have been unable to save a .gpx without mapsource crashing.

Agree, frustrating that they would leave this for so long. Vista?

Try this workaround:

•Start MapSource (regardless of which map loaded)

•File / open any GDB file

•File / open any GPX file

•File / open the GDB file again

•File / save as GPX works ok

I'm still slightly confused. If I open a GDB file and it remains open while I open a GPX file, how do I open the GDB a second time?

July 14, 2009

I'm of course having the exact same problem. ever since April I have been unable to save a .gpx without mapsource crashing.

Agree, frustrating that they would leave this for so long. Vista?

Try this workaround:

•Start MapSource (regardless of which map loaded)

•File / open any GDB file

•File / open any GPX file

•File / open the GDB file again

•File / save as GPX works ok

I'm still slightly confused. If I open a GDB file and it remains open while I open a GPX file, how do I open the GDB a second time?

July 14, 2009

I'm of course having the exact same problem. ever since April I have been unable to save a .gpx without mapsource crashing.

Agree, frustrating that they would leave this for so long. Vista?

Try this workaround:

•Start MapSource (regardless of which map loaded)

•File / open any GDB file

•File / open any GPX file

•File / open the GDB file again

•File / save as GPX works ok

I'm still slightly confused. If I open a GDB file and it remains open while I open a GPX file, how do I open the GDB a second time?

I should have tried it before opening my big mouth. I forgot that MapSource closes the open file when you open a second file. Anyhow, YOUR TIP WORKED!!! You are correct in that loading a gpx initializes something in the program that is missing when it opens on certain computer. Thanks so much for this tip.

MapSource unable to save GPX

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