+cincol Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 For those who have a hankering to look at stones and other related things - as opposed to looking for tupperware hidden UNDER the rocks - Earthcaches offer a different perspective to our wonderful sport of geocaching. For me it allows one to see things around us - sometimes very close to where we live - in a different light. Am I a geological nut? Not at all, but I do enjoy natural history and geography in general. Some Earthcaches can get very "technical", but generally are very informative. This all depends on the descriptions and explanations given by the owner. That said, I see that Carbon Hunter now has 19 Earthcaches [14 in South Africa out of a total of 20] to his credit! Well done and keep it up. Judging by the comments logged by cachers that have visited them they are being enjoyed. Certainly makes one look at Johannesburg from a slightly different angle! As a student studying geology [amongst others] at Wits in the early 70's and a career in the mining industry afterwards I have visited most of the sights that you have highlighted. I have many old 35mm slides of the "local" geological features that I used to show my students too. [i wonder how they could be converted to digital photos?] I certainly look forward to re-visiting many of these sites to record some "finds" in the future. I have a few of my own Earthcaches as well, but only 1 in South Africa [GC18GG9]. What is nice about them is that they are 100% maintenance free! Whoopee! You can place them anywhere in the world and don't need a fellow cacher to maintain the tupperware or replace logbooks for you! For those who have never logged an Earthcache yet - go for it - you will enjoy seeing things a little differently. Further information is available at http://www.earthcache.org Quote Link to comment
+GlobalRat Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 Must agree. These probably aren't everyones cup of tea, but it is amazing to discover things about local sites which to many of us appear quite ordinary. The upside is that earthcaches need to be quite thoroughly researched and the presented information is therefore quite informative. Quote Link to comment
+Carbon Hunter Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 I understand about the technical nature putting people off. But as a naturalist (not not one of those gusy who caches with no clothes on!!!!!) at heart - I really enjoy looking at the physical earth around while caching. I love Earthcaches - and the opportunity they pose for me to do some research on SA geological features, and share these with fellow cachers. As an owner - my aim is not to have a bunch of Geology majors coming out - but merely that a cachers can enjoy the site for what it is, and learn something - no matter what base level you come from. I'm just amazed at how interesting it has been for me researching these. I know a lot of cachers now qualify for the Earthcache Masters level (i.e. a certain number of caches gets you a great little lapel pin free of charge). But with the lack of Earthcaches around (I still need to get to either Vredefort, Pilanesberg, Tufa falls in Mpumalanga or top of Table Mountain) I'm still one short of my Silver award. So please post some of your own around the country. SA is geologically rich and can do with a few more (IMHO). If you haven't tried one yet, please do, I love seeing the logs! Quote Link to comment
+geocacher_coza Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 I've done a few and absolutly love them! It takes you to places you would just past along and that you did not even know about. One "forced" me to go to the sterkfontein caves. I would never have gone it it was not for that cache. Quote Link to comment
+O-Mega Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 Unfortunately I got active into geocaching AFTER I retired from the military so I missed the opportunity to log some of these interesting areas I have been to. I have always been interested in the wonderful natural formations and have visited many parts of the world checking them out. I don't know if you guys noticed but there is now a forum area for earthcaches : Earthcache Forum Quote Link to comment
+the pooks Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 (edited) Did my first one this weekend. Very ineresting and worthwhile but it makes me feel as if I'm back in school - especially with that exam that you need to pass in the end! Edited June 17, 2008 by the pooks Quote Link to comment
+Fish Eagle Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 Like 'em!!! Found a few in SA, and some in Wales, and thoroughly enjoyed them all. Each one made us say "Wow, we didn't know that!!" We've listed one Earthcache, and it was great fun putting it together, especially because we knew nothing about the subject matter before we started - now we do!! A lovely learning experience.... Quote Link to comment
+Carbon Hunter Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 Hey - three new Earthcaches up an running in the Joburg Area for you guys. I really liked the "Original Golden Beatle" - so something for you to do this weekend? Quote Link to comment
+Carbon Hunter Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 A KZN earthcache - tell me more! Quote Link to comment
+Rhino and Hedgehog Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 Yea the KZN earth cache is ours - Kloof Gorge - our first Earth cache, second on the way soon. You can leave KZN to us we will pick it up here. Still have not done any so cant comment as so far as 'finding' them is concerned but the concept appeals - just hope we are setting the standard right....? Quote Link to comment
+Carbon Hunter Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 Yea the KZN earth cache is ours - Kloof Gorge - our first Earth cache, second on the way soon. You can leave KZN to us we will pick it up here. Still have not done any so cant comment as so far as 'finding' them is concerned but the concept appeals - just hope we are setting the standard right....? Brilliant and congrats. I had a look at the weblisting and it looks wonderful. I really like the idea of uploading a track. Great concept. Keep up the good work. I'm itching to get down and do it now!!!!! I see Tomtwogates has an idea down in the Western Cape too - so things are loooking up - a really interesting site well worth a visit too! Quote Link to comment
+Carbon Hunter Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 Congratulations on two new Earthcaches: iNokia doing the Cango Caves - great spot and cslyoda doing the Bushveld Complex in Rustenberu and links to Platinum GM mining. Well done guys. The numbers are swelling. Quote Link to comment
+Rhino and Hedgehog Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 And you can add another - World Heritage Site - St Lucia Wetlands the second in KZN, another coming soon. Quote Link to comment
+iNokia Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 So here's an idea for a new Earth cache. NAME. Gau Train LOCATION Oxford Street JoBurg Quote Link to comment
+Wazat Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 And you can add another - World Heritage Site - St Lucia Wetlands the second in KZN, another coming soon. And to claim the next one all i really need is to wonder when "we" are going to get up there again.... Quote Link to comment
+Carbon Hunter Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 And Another in the Western Cape - Niuewoudhville - a Glacial pavement. Well Done tomtwogates. Also to Rhino & Hedgehog for St Lucia - an excellent idea. Quote Link to comment
+Carbon Hunter Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 I have just done my 6th Earthcache - so I qualify for the Earthcache Masters Silver. I got a lovely pin & sticker for the Bronze - so those doing Earthcaches - do remember to apply for the Earthcache Masters too - a great little added incentive/bonus. Quote Link to comment
+Rhino and Hedgehog Posted July 12, 2008 Share Posted July 12, 2008 And to claim the next one all i really need is to wonder when "we" are going to get up there again.... You better believe it bud! - The only question is.... which on takes your fancy.... Twins? Quote Link to comment
+Wazat Posted July 12, 2008 Share Posted July 12, 2008 Hee hee.... Twins? Maybe... the cave might have some rock art? Quote Link to comment
+Carbon Hunter Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 Rhino & Hedgehog - congrats on your 3rd Earthcache - great idea for a series. Keep going! Quote Link to comment
+Rhino and Hedgehog Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 Rhino & Hedgehog - congrats on your 3rd Earthcache - great idea for a series. Keep going! Thanks! However I think that is the end of the series - unless some one else knows of another World Heritage Site in SA? Quote Link to comment
+Carbon Hunter Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 We actually have 8 of them! St Lucia & Drakensberg which you have PLUS » Fossil Hominid Sites of Sterkfontein, Swartkrans, Kromdraai, and Environs (1999) » Mapungubwe Cultural Landscape (2003) » Robben Island (1999) » Richtersveld Cultural and Botanical Landscape (2007) » Cape Floral Region Protected Areas (2004) » Vredefort Dome (2005) Quote Link to comment
+Carbon Hunter Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 A note for people considering planting their own Earthcaches. Although it's really great to get a BIG earthcache site - like a world heritage site / Table Mountain or something similar The guidelines for Earthcaches are very broad - as long as there is a strict link to the Earth (or geology). So some of mine to date are not very "major" sites. Like: Milnerton spit on Woodbridge Island Granite boulders at Froggy Pond The site where Joburgs first geological map started A particualr (or interesting rock type) A dyke A sand dune I'm also looking at getting ones for a "nek" and a "poort" So any interesting landform shape / unusual occurance / fossils / mining activity etc. could make a good site. Quote Link to comment
+Carbon Hunter Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 Another VERY IMPORTANT factor. If the Earthcache is on private or not totally acessible land (e.g. you have to pay an entrance fee to a land manager) - then you need permission for the Earthcache. Please don't try bend this - there have been a number of cachers BANNED for not following due process. I try get mine in public parks with no access fee - or on roadsides etc. So think a little laterally. One does not need to get to the TOP of Table Mountain for instance for an Earthcache on the TableMountain sandstones - use the top of Sir Lowry's Pass (an example of my own). Places like the Joburg Earthcache series are either all in public parks with unlimited access to citizens - or on a public road (no permission needed to be there) - or in a car park where access is available (e.g. outside Gold Reef City rather than inside). TAKE NOTE Quote Link to comment
+Carbon Hunter Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 34 South African Earthcaches now - with a few more on their way - ancient ripple marks in the Eastern Cape; Sinkholes; waterfalls and even a roadside on the N3. Hopefully we'll be hitting the 50 mark soon. I think I only have about 3 more left for SA before heading off to populate the UAE (which doesn't have any yet). Quote Link to comment
+Carbon Hunter Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 Hey - welldone Redglobe on your first Earthcache - that just after a FTF on the Kommandonek one too. An interesting feature with the Babsfontein sinkholes. Well done Quote Link to comment
+RedGlobe Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 Thanks Carbon Hunter Setting up this one took a lot out of me and my normal caching activities. On the end after all the research, site inspections and interviews, I can proudly say “we loved it”. Does this mean we are now a “guru” on holes?? No, there is just so much more to learn. It will be some time before you will see the next one, its back to normal caching for now. Quote Link to comment
+Carbon Hunter Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 Thanks Carbon Hunter Setting up this one took a lot out of me and my normal caching activities. On the end after all the research, site inspections and interviews, I can proudly say “we loved it”. Does this mean we are now a “guru” on holes?? No, there is just so much more to learn. It will be some time before you will see the next one, its back to normal caching for now. Well that's great. I don't think anyone (or very few) can profess to be guru's on their earthcaches. I certainly am not. I just love learning about the Earth - and thats the main aim of Earthcaches. Everyone learns. Keep on rocking1 Quote Link to comment
+geoaware Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 I just wanted to thank you all in SA who are supporting EarthCaches (and a special thanks to Carbon Hunter). When we started EarthCaches a few years ago we hoped that we would see them spread around the globe. The very first was set up in Australia (my home country) and a few in the USA (my place of residence) and they have spread from there. Last look tells me that they exisit on every continent, and in 76 different countries. I will finally get to SA in 2010 as the next international geology education conference (GeoSciEd) is being held in J'burg. I intend to get some EarthCaches in..as well as a few traditionals..as I do when ever I travel. So just a 'thanks'...and I hope you guys are not kicking Australia's butt in the cricket (one thing the USA has never seemed to adopt or even televise). Cheers Gary Geoaware EarthCache Grand Master (so I am told) Quote Link to comment
+Carbon Hunter Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Thank you :blush: South Africa is an amazing country - there is just so much potential for Earthcaches here. It's so great to see the new ones coming out - really interesting places and concepts. Keep it going guys. Quote Link to comment
+GEO936 Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 We enjoy doing earthcaches, and have learnt a great deal from them. We find it a challenge to look up the information and provide a good answer. We always feel though that we haven't done enough research or we are on the wrong track. Sometimes we feel like we are being tested [], but in the end we are allowed to log our find, so we guess we are not doing too badly. We just need time to do earthcaches (well that is because of the research involved!). But thanks CH for putting together some great earthcaches, we'll be sure to do them one by one as time goes on! Quote Link to comment
+DamhuisClan Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 A few weeks ago on recommendation from Carbonhunter, I went to http://www.earthcache.org/ and gave all my info for their "EarthCache Masters" program.,I submitted the first three earth caches we have done, and yesterday my bronze geo-pin arrived. One down, and three geopins to go! Quote Link to comment
+RedGlobe Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 I have received this mail on a response of my Earth Cache: STUMBBLED ACROSS GEOCHASING THIS MORNING. INTERRESTED IN YOUR KNOWLEGE ON SINKHOLES. I KNOW YOU FIND THEM - Ever dived them? Interrested in talking about this - I would like to dive them - i'm a cave diver and looking for new holes to dive. This person is now a geocache member and I am glad we are attracting more cachers even if they search the web for info. I just hope he do not hide a cache in one of those caves….. even Ginger can not retrieve it down there, they are using re-breathers. Quote Link to comment
+Carbon Hunter Posted September 21, 2008 Share Posted September 21, 2008 Brilliant. My silver pin arrived just before I left SA. Unfortunately I seemed destined to have more Earthcache hides than finds!!!! I hope that changes by the time I get back to SA!! None here in the UAE eitehr, But that will change soon [] Quote Link to comment
+cincol Posted September 21, 2008 Author Share Posted September 21, 2008 None here in the UAE eitehr, But that will change soon [] \\ But there are 4 in Qatar!! Quote Link to comment
+Carbon Hunter Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 None here in the UAE eitehr, But that will change soon [] \\ But there are 4 in Qatar!! And one of them is mine Quote Link to comment
+Carbon Hunter Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 I have received this mail on a response of my Earth Cache: STUMBBLED ACROSS GEOCHASING THIS MORNING. INTERRESTED IN YOUR KNOWLEGE ON SINKHOLES. I KNOW YOU FIND THEM - Ever dived them? Interrested in talking about this - I would like to dive them - i'm a cave diver and looking for new holes to dive. This person is now a geocache member and I am glad we are attracting more cachers even if they search the web for info. I just hope he do not hide a cache in one of those caves….. even Ginger can not retrieve it down there, they are using re-breathers. Brilliant!!!! Great news. Quote Link to comment
+Carbon Hunter Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 I have received this mail on a response of my Earth Cache: STUMBBLED ACROSS GEOCHASING THIS MORNING. INTERRESTED IN YOUR KNOWLEGE ON SINKHOLES. I KNOW YOU FIND THEM - Ever dived them? Interrested in talking about this - I would like to dive them - i'm a cave diver and looking for new holes to dive. This person is now a geocache member and I am glad we are attracting more cachers even if they search the web for info. I just hope he do not hide a cache in one of those caves….. even Ginger can not retrieve it down there, they are using re-breathers. Brilliant!!!! Great news. Quote Link to comment
+cincol Posted September 22, 2008 Author Share Posted September 22, 2008 And one of them is mine And who do the other 3 belong to? Quote Link to comment
+Louise_Gerhard Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 I done a couple of earth cache and I am still the rookie with the white belt in class. However, with the earth caches that I have done it made me aware of my surroundings and forced me to look around for something different. I found two spots that could be described as an earth cache. I am busy researching these two finds and I do not want to give details of the location. One is still questionable and one is a go for sure. To me the location is very important but yet no earth caches exist in this area. But my knowledge is questionable and it is outside my comfort zone. I am prepared to do the research and all the interviews. I have access to a geologist and I get most of my answers to my questions. However, I would like to run this listing pass someone else before this is passed for approval. Is there anyone out there that would like to pre-approve the listings? Gerhard Quote Link to comment
+the pooks Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 Gerhard I bought this book "Geological Journeys" by Nick Norman & Gavin Whitfield from a coffe shop in Springbok on the way back from the Fish river canyon that seemed to have quite a lot of potential. Other than that carbon hunter seems to be quite a whiz. Quote Link to comment
+Carbon Hunter Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 Gerhard I bought this book "Geological Journeys" by Nick Norman & Gavin Whitfield from a coffe shop in Springbok on the way back from the Fish river canyon that seemed to have quite a lot of potential. Other than that carbon hunter seems to be quite a whiz. Geological Journeys is a great book. Gives a lot of info (you will see I use it as a reference in many of my caches outside Joburg). Gerhard - please feel free to send an email to me and I will assist. Rest assured that I won't be rushing off for a FTF either - now that I'm sitting in the desert in Abu Dhabi. It would be a pleasure to assist you. There are some great potential sites in the Mpumalanga area (Chrissiesmeer; Drakensberg escarpement; Sudwala; Kaapsehoop; Barberton; Badplaas; Asbestos mines; etc. etc.). Also remember - earthcaches are NOT just about rocks (geology). You can also do one at a landform (like a interesting hill shape) - or a hydrological point (waterfall; river) - or even a coastal feature (spit; sandbanks; reef) - or a historical site (spot of original geological map; where a particular point of geography history happened) - fossil sites - or even erosion sites (kloof; landslide; sink hole). so get innovative. Grant Quote Link to comment
+Carbon Hunter Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Well done to Littleclan - a great new Earthcache at Cape Aghulas is now operational - 2 Oceans! who will get the big 50 for Earthcaches in SA? Just over 10 to go now! Quote Link to comment
+Megaben Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Also remember - earthcaches are NOT just about rocks (geology). You can also do one at a landform (like a interesting hill shape) - or a hydrological point (waterfall; river) - or even a coastal feature (spit; sandbanks; reef) - or a historical site (spot of original geological map; where a particular point of geography history happened) - fossil sites - or even erosion sites (kloof; landslide; sink hole). so get innovative. Grant Just a question from a complete rookie... I now here in China and not far from me is what they call he Longmen Caves that was hand carved in the 5th century out of solid rock formations with 1352 caves, over 100000 statues and 3600 carved tablets of Buddhist incriptions dated back to the year 316. Does this qualify to be a earth cache??? Quote Link to comment
+cincol Posted October 20, 2008 Author Share Posted October 20, 2008 Just a question from a complete rookie... I now here in China and not far from me is what they call he Longmen Caves that was hand carved in the 5th century out of solid rock formations with 1352 caves, over 100000 statues and 3600 carved tablets of Buddhist incriptions dated back to the year 316. Does this qualify to be a earth cache??? Of course it would!! The proof would be in how you present it to the Geological Society for publication. There has to be an "educational" element to the cache and that you do by asking the finder to answer a few questions about the ccahe. Check out the requirements at Earthcache.org for more details. You could also contact Carbon Hunter - I am sure he would love to assist you with the publication. Good luck. Quote Link to comment
+Carbon Hunter Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 Just a question from a complete rookie... I now here in China and not far from me is what they call he Longmen Caves that was hand carved in the 5th century out of solid rock formations with 1352 caves, over 100000 statues and 3600 carved tablets of Buddhist incriptions dated back to the year 316. Does this qualify to be a earth cache??? Of course it would!! The proof would be in how you present it to the Geological Society for publication. There has to be an "educational" element to the cache and that you do by asking the finder to answer a few questions about the ccahe. Check out the requirements at Earthcache.org for more details. You could also contact Carbon Hunter - I am sure he would love to assist you with the publication. Good luck. I tend to agree. I would use the approach as to WHY could these caves be hand carved. What are the characteristics of the rocks that allows carving. Also - the terracotta statues - what is terracotta - and how would it have been formed - why is it good for statue making? how does this cave system differ from a natural one? What rocks are natural caves normally found in (karst - or limestones) - etc. etc. So yes - go for it!!! Quote Link to comment
+Carbon Hunter Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 I now here in China Hoesit my China Quote Link to comment
+Louise_Gerhard Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 (edited) I received my bronze pin and I am proud of it. Thanks to all for the chance to find this type of cache. Gerhard Edited October 24, 2008 by gerhardoosMPsa Quote Link to comment
+cincol Posted October 25, 2008 Author Share Posted October 25, 2008 I received my bronze pin and I am proud of it. Thanks to all for the chance to find this type of cache. Gerhard CONGRATULATIONS Gerhard - hope to read about your Platinum pin soon!! Quote Link to comment
+Carbon Hunter Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 Brilliant - Well done Gerhard - Bronze - I remember how chuffed I was to get my bronze too. And that was after a trip to Qatar and Switzerland to get enough caches!!! Times have changed that we can do it at home now! Quote Link to comment
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