Us 5 Camp Posted May 17, 2004 Share Posted May 17, 2004 As the old "pre-shipping" thread on the 76CS was getting a little "long-in-the-tooth" I am starting a new thread on the 76CS now that the 1st units are shipping.... ---------------- I spoke with TVNav today and my 76CS is part of their original shipment and ships today! I only sprung for 2nd day air, so I should have it by Wed. Quote Link to comment
Hankhan Posted May 17, 2004 Share Posted May 17, 2004 Good news - mine is shipping today too! I wouldn't have thought of calling them if I hadn't seen US 5 Camp's post. Thanks! Quote Link to comment
Us 5 Camp Posted May 18, 2004 Author Share Posted May 18, 2004 Got "Brown" 's Tracking Number.... the 76CS will be here on 5/19/04. Quote Link to comment
Mega Volt Posted May 18, 2004 Share Posted May 18, 2004 Still waiting on GPSCity to get them in... Talked to customer service this morning and they say they still have not received them. Quote Link to comment
Hankhan Posted May 18, 2004 Share Posted May 18, 2004 Mine wil be here on the 21st. Saw a post from TVNAV that they were going to get enough in on Wed. to fill all their pre-orders. Quote Link to comment
Mega Volt Posted May 19, 2004 Share Posted May 19, 2004 My GPSMAP76CS is on its way via FEDEX. Thank you GPSCity!!! Quote Link to comment
Hankhan Posted May 19, 2004 Share Posted May 19, 2004 I'm pretty sure Garmin posted the manuals for the 60 series the day they started shipping. Still no manuals available for the 76's at the Garmin website. Quote Link to comment
+m2orris Posted May 19, 2004 Share Posted May 19, 2004 (edited) Did not turn computer on Monday as a result no 76CS on order. The one day I did not check ... Edited May 19, 2004 by m2orris Quote Link to comment
+m2orris Posted May 19, 2004 Share Posted May 19, 2004 Just ordered my from gpsnow.com !!!!!! Should ship today and get here by Friday!!! Quote Link to comment
Us 5 Camp Posted May 20, 2004 Author Share Posted May 20, 2004 IT'S HERE ! My 76 CS arrived today via Brown... Way to go TVNav.com !!!! If you haven't dealt with Darell and Glenda at TVNav, you're missing out as all they do is GPS and they know it well. Great Customer Service, great prices, fast delivery, quick to receive new models. Mark from MN P.S. the 76CS has a Geocache feature... not sure if it's the same as the 60CS, because I've had it out of the box all of an hour now (while watching the Wolves take game 7!), but that's one surprise! Can you tell I am happy to Finally get my new 76CS and end my GPS-less streak! Quote Link to comment
Mega Volt Posted May 20, 2004 Share Posted May 20, 2004 (edited) May 20, 2004 - 7:10 am - On FedEx vehicle for delivery. Hurry up FedEx!!! I have been jumping up to look out the window everytime I hear a vehicle go by. I have my new NiMH batteries all charged up and ready to drop in as soon as it gets here. Then its off to a cache that I have been waiting THREE MONTHS to log. Glad to hear they put that geocache feature in there... not sure how useful it will turn out to be but you can never have too many bells and whistles Edited May 20, 2004 by Mega Volt Quote Link to comment
+Great Scott! Posted May 20, 2004 Share Posted May 20, 2004 I'm having trouble with the course pointer on the 76CS compass page. I can't get the arrow to show when I am navigating. Anyone else seeing this problem? Quote Link to comment
+Team Trout Posted May 20, 2004 Share Posted May 20, 2004 Megavolt, Can you please tell us more about the geocaching feature in the 76cs? Is it like the one in the 60cs? Thanks! Quote Link to comment
Mega Volt Posted May 20, 2004 Share Posted May 20, 2004 Better ask Us 5 Camp as I am still waiting on the FedEx truck. Quote Link to comment
Hankhan Posted May 20, 2004 Share Posted May 20, 2004 Looks like Garmin has an update for the 76CS. http://www.garmin.com/support/download_det...353-00#Instruct fixes Corrected problems finding items when results contain characters with diacritic marks. Corrected a problem on the Geocache Find page where a Find By Name search could potentially highlight a point past the first correct match. Corrected an orientation problem on the Turn Preview page if the route is calculated close to the first turn. Corrected problems with the automatic closing feature of the Turn Preview page when using German or Italian languages. Corrected potential problems resulting from automatic closing of the keyboard. Corrected potential problem where invalid characters could be entered into a waypoint comment. Corrected potential display problems on the Altimeter page barometer plot view. Corrected contour line colors to increase visibility. Quote Link to comment
Animas Posted May 20, 2004 Share Posted May 20, 2004 Got mine this morning from GPS City. From looking at manual it not only has the geocache screens of the 60C models but also has the same games. Put in batteries and took it outside in an open field to initialize, however, and got absolutely NO satellite signals with a clear horizon to horizon view. My old Vista in same spot picks up 8 signals. Checked menus-GPS is on, turned on WAAS and still doesn't pick up a single satellite. NOT a good start-guess it goes back to GPS city or Garmin. Like the form factor-the buttons above the screen are very easy to use with your thumb when using one-handed and the screen is very readable-now if I only had a working antenna it would be great ! Quote Link to comment
+Team Trout Posted May 20, 2004 Share Posted May 20, 2004 Sorry Mega Volt! I obviously got the names mixed up. So, Us 5 Camp, and anyone else who has one, what's the geocaching feature like on the 76cs? It sounds like it is the same as on the 60cs from what Animas saw in the manual. Any first hand account from a user with a functioning 76cs? Thanks! Quote Link to comment
Mega Volt Posted May 20, 2004 Share Posted May 20, 2004 No problem Team Trout. Animas, how long did you let the unit search? Quote Link to comment
Animas Posted May 20, 2004 Share Posted May 20, 2004 Its working now. I let it sit for almost 15 minutes and it still did not pick up anything. What I did to get it started was hit "Menu" on the sat page and select "New location" That unlocked the system and now it picks up the same 8 sats that my Vista does in the same spot. Good tip for anyone having the same problem-your unit is NOT defective. Looking forward to playing with it this weekend ! The Geocache mode is initiated by using find, select geocache icon, hitting enter, selecting a geocache you loaded, press enter which brings up the info page, then select GO-TO and hit enter. Then the compass page changes to geocache navigation and displays any added data about the geocache in a comment field. Looks identical to the geocache mode I saw in a 60C brochure but I don't own a 60C to confirm its exactly the same. Quote Link to comment
MacBandit Posted May 21, 2004 Share Posted May 21, 2004 At this point I would be willing to bet that the hardware and software of the 60c/s and 76c/s are exactly the same except for the size of storage memory. Quote Link to comment
Mega Volt Posted May 21, 2004 Share Posted May 21, 2004 (edited) Got my 76CS in this afternoon... what a wonderful unit!!! Looks to be just like the 60CS to me too except for memory of course. Does the 60CS have the serial port too? Anyone upload software version 3.30 to a 76CS unit yet? I was going to but when I turned the GPS on Windows XP wanted to do a software install. Not sure if it was looking for USB drivers or not??? I do have the Mapsource Trip & Waypoint Manager loaded and I thought that is what loaded the USB drivers. Any thoughts? Edited May 21, 2004 by Mega Volt Quote Link to comment
SergZak Posted May 21, 2004 Share Posted May 21, 2004 I would also be willing to bet that the same flash memory chip used in the 76C(S) would also work in the 60C(S) with no mods other than unsoldering the old & resoldering the new back into it's place... Quote Link to comment
SergZak Posted May 21, 2004 Share Posted May 21, 2004 (edited) Does the 60CS have the serial port too? The 60C(S) both have the serial port. It's the same 4-pin round connector used on the GPS V and the GPSMAP 76S (among other Garmin units) Anyone upload software version 3.30 to a 76CS unit yet? I was going to but when I turned the GPS on Windows XP wanted to do a software install. Not sure if it was looking for USB drivers or not??? I do have the Mapsource Trip & Waypoint Manager loaded and I thought that is what loaded the USB drivers. Any thoughts? If you've installed "Trip and Waypoint Manager", you should be good to go. Did you restart the system after installing "Trip and Waypoint Manager" and before you plugged in the GPS? Edited May 21, 2004 by SergZak Quote Link to comment
Mega Volt Posted May 21, 2004 Share Posted May 21, 2004 (edited) Good point... thought that would work... tried restarting but I still get the "Found New Hardware Wizard" popping up when I turn the unit on. So, I put the Trip & Waypoint CD back in and the Hardware Wizard found it and did its little install. Works now and version 3.30 looks to be operating great. Edited May 21, 2004 by Mega Volt Quote Link to comment
Us 5 Camp Posted May 21, 2004 Author Share Posted May 21, 2004 At this point I would be willing to bet that the hardware and software of the 60c/s and 76c/s are exactly the same except for the size of storage memory. I think you are mostly correct. I bet the hardware is the same and the firmware only has minor differences. If you've ever seen the post showing a picture of the guts of a 76S and then look at a 60 series, you'll see they are nearly the same size. 76 series encases the antenna entirely and the 60 series has the Rhino-like antenna sticking out of it's case. This minute amount of extra volume is why the 76 floats and the 60 sinks. Quote Link to comment
Animas Posted May 21, 2004 Share Posted May 21, 2004 Love this 76CS unit ! Loaded up ALL the topo data for CA State and National parks off Mapsource 24K Natl Parks West to the unit last night (270 something maps and 90 MB worth) Unit took it all without a whimper and I still have memory left over to throw in a few routes etc. Download time for all that data was only about 6/7 minutes via USB port. Now I won't have to keep loading and unloading topo data each time I go to a different park. Antenna works better under tree cover than my old Vista did. WOW ! Quote Link to comment
+m2orris Posted May 21, 2004 Share Posted May 21, 2004 Just got my 76CS!!!!!!! No issues with picking up satellites. Is it me or is it faster than the 76S? Drawing is much faster. Love the new method for typing via keymap vs the up and down scrolling. Good job Garmin, gpsnow.com, and FedEx. Quote Link to comment
+m2orris Posted May 21, 2004 Share Posted May 21, 2004 Okay one suggestion to improve the keymap is for it to only show valid letters when searching. For example, if one is looking for a city and lets say there are only two cities, starting with the letter 'd' dogville and dodgeville. After selecting 'd' the only choice would be 'o'. After selecting 'o', there would be 2 choices 'd' and 'g'. Using the rocker key, it would skip over not possible letters. Quote Link to comment
+PDOP's Posted May 21, 2004 Share Posted May 21, 2004 Love the new method for typing via keymap vs the up and down scrolling. That's great I was hoping they would have this feature. With this and the geocaching feature too this looks like the perfect GPS for my next upgrade. Quote Link to comment
+m2orris Posted May 22, 2004 Share Posted May 22, 2004 (edited) If you have not blown away the tracks the shipped with the unit it is very interesting. Assuming it is not a flash image, which it could easily be, it might have been on during testing. Esp when the unit was actually moving (see log #34 below). The track data: 4/8-24/2004 -- Kansas City 5/2-5/2004 -- Taiwan ACTIVE LOG 1 12/31/2012 6:00:01 PM 00:00:00 0 ft 0 sq ft ACTIVE LOG 001 1 12/31/2012 6:00:20 PM 00:00:00 0 ft 0 sq ft ACTIVE LOG 002 2 4/8/2004 11:04:23 AM 00:00:01 0 ft 0 sq ft 0 mph ACTIVE LOG 003 1 4/8/2004 1:19:26 PM 00:00:00 0 ft 0 sq ft ACTIVE LOG 004 1 4/8/2004 1:19:51 PM 00:00:00 0 ft 0 sq ft ACTIVE LOG 005 2 4/20/2004 4:19:39 PM 00:00:01 0 ft 0 sq ft 0 mph ACTIVE LOG 006 1 4/20/2004 4:24:35 PM 00:00:00 0 ft 0 sq ft ACTIVE LOG 007 1 4/20/2004 4:25:01 PM 00:00:00 0 ft 0 sq ft ACTIVE LOG 008 2 4/20/2004 4:26:00 PM 00:00:01 0 ft 0 sq ft 0 mph ACTIVE LOG 009 1 4/20/2004 11:26:57 PM 00:00:00 0 ft 0 sq ft ACTIVE LOG 010 1 4/21/2004 1:32:41 AM 00:00:00 0 ft 0 sq ft ACTIVE LOG 011 1 4/21/2004 1:34:44 AM 00:00:00 0 ft 0 sq ft ACTIVE LOG 012 1 4/21/2004 6:37:04 AM 00:00:00 0 ft 0 sq ft ACTIVE LOG 013 1 4/21/2004 6:38:02 AM 00:00:00 0 ft 0 sq ft ACTIVE LOG 014 1 4/21/2004 5:25:18 PM 00:00:00 0 ft 0 sq ft ACTIVE LOG 015 2 4/22/2004 3:33:35 PM 00:02:19 0 ft 0 sq ft 0 mph ACTIVE LOG 016 2 4/22/2004 3:38:05 PM 00:02:23 0 ft 0 sq ft 0 mph ACTIVE LOG 017 2 4/22/2004 3:41:54 PM 00:02:17 0 ft 0 sq ft 0 mph ACTIVE LOG 018 2 4/22/2004 3:46:56 PM 00:02:20 0 ft 0 sq ft 0 mph ACTIVE LOG 019 1 4/22/2004 4:47:24 PM 00:00:00 0 ft 0 sq ft ACTIVE LOG 020 1 4/24/2004 3:21:21 PM 00:00:00 0 ft 0 sq ft ACTIVE LOG 021 1 4/24/2004 6:26:02 PM 00:00:00 0 ft 0 sq ft ACTIVE LOG 022 1 4/24/2004 6:27:31 PM 00:00:00 0 ft 0 sq ft ACTIVE LOG 023 1 4/30/2004 6:26:13 AM 00:00:00 0 ft 0 sq ft ACTIVE LOG 024 21 5/2/2004 3:45:44 AM 00:02:17 0 ft 0 sq ft 0 mph ACTIVE LOG 025 6 5/2/2004 11:25:54 AM 00:00:07 0 ft 0 sq ft 0 mph ACTIVE LOG 026 4 5/2/2004 11:26:16 AM 00:00:03 0 ft 0 sq ft 0 mph ACTIVE LOG 027 6 5/2/2004 11:26:22 AM 00:00:55 0 ft 0 sq ft 0 mph ACTIVE LOG 028 3 5/2/2004 11:33:12 AM 00:00:02 0 ft 0 sq ft 0 mph ACTIVE LOG 029 3 5/2/2004 11:33:18 AM 00:00:53 0 ft 0 sq ft 0 mph ACTIVE LOG 030 3 5/2/2004 11:34:13 AM 00:00:10 0 ft 0 sq ft 0 mph ACTIVE LOG 031 2 5/2/2004 11:34:40 AM 00:00:01 0 ft 0 sq ft 0 mph ACTIVE LOG 032 3 5/2/2004 11:48:08 AM 00:00:02 0 ft 0 sq ft 0 mph ACTIVE LOG 033 6 5/3/2004 8:37:02 AM 00:00:21 0 ft 0 sq ft 0 mph ACTIVE LOG 034 20 5/3/2004 8:36:37 AM 00:00:57 33 ft 10 sq ft 0.40 mph ACTIVE LOG 035 4 5/3/2004 8:37:38 AM 00:00:03 0 ft 0 sq ft 0 mph ACTIVE LOG 036 61 5/5/2004 5:23:11 AM 00:05:33 0 ft 0 sq ft 0 mph Edited May 22, 2004 by m2orris Quote Link to comment
Hankhan Posted May 22, 2004 Share Posted May 22, 2004 Brown just dropped mine off. Got it on and it got satellites, no problem. I think I downloaded the new firmware into it (don't know how to check it), and I might have downloaded the Idaho Panhandle from Mapsource. When I zoom in, I've got things that look like a topo map - without much detail. IMy last Garmin was a II+, so I have a pretty steep learning hill to climb with this one. I might be asking a BUNCH of dumb questions, so please bear with me. like the ergonomics, button placement is excellent for me. It's really, really fast compared to the old II+ - the difference is like night and day. thanks for all your help in picking this one...Rich Quote Link to comment
ardfarkle Posted May 22, 2004 Share Posted May 22, 2004 (edited) The 76C and 76CS manuals are now available: http://www.garmin.com/manuals/GPSMAP76C_76...wnersManual.pdf http://www.garmin.com/manuals/GPSMAP76C_76...wnersManual.pdf Edited May 22, 2004 by ardfarkle Quote Link to comment
+david&diana Posted May 22, 2004 Share Posted May 22, 2004 I think you are mostly correct. I bet the hardware is the same and the firmware only has minor differences. I downloaded the 3.30 firmware upgrades for the 60C, 60CS, 76C, and 76CS and they're all identical once you uncompress the files. Quote Link to comment
Hankhan Posted May 22, 2004 Share Posted May 22, 2004 I think I downloaded some Mapsource Topo maps into the GPS, but I'm not sure if I'm seeing them on the GPS. Should the maps on the GPS look like the maps I see on my PC? Mine don't. When I saved them to the GPS it looked like it was doing something and said they were transferred. I found this in an old 60cs post From the map page hit the "MENU" button and select "Setup Map" Move to the fourth of the five icons (the "i" with the circle around it) and hit "MENU" This will give you a list of options something like: Show All Show None Hide Basemap Restore Defaults Restore All Map Defaults Show US City Select Show US Topo but on my 76 when I do the above I never see "show US Topo" as an option. Anyone know how to make the maps appear on the GPS? thanks... Quote Link to comment
MacBandit Posted May 22, 2004 Share Posted May 22, 2004 At this point I would be willing to bet that the hardware and software of the 60c/s and 76c/s are exactly the same except for the size of storage memory. I think you are mostly correct. I bet the hardware is the same and the firmware only has minor differences. If you've ever seen the post showing a picture of the guts of a 76S and then look at a 60 series, you'll see they are nearly the same size. 76 series encases the antenna entirely and the 60 series has the Rhino-like antenna sticking out of it's case. This minute amount of extra volume is why the 76 floats and the 60 sinks. I would love to see the guts of one of any GPS could you post the link? Quote Link to comment
Hankhan Posted May 22, 2004 Share Posted May 22, 2004 Here a page of someone who took a GPS-V apart and attempted some modifications. It's nicely detailed with excellent photos. http://www.elsinga.net/index.html?page=gps5faq Scroll down and click on "What is inside the GPS V case?" I'm still having lots of trouble with Mapsource on the 76CS. I believe the maps are downloaded - this am I put 43 of the Topo maps on it, most of Idaho. When I go the GPS I and select "Maps" I only see one - a map located somewhere in the middle of the long list I believe I moved to the GPS. Any ideas on what I'm doing wrong? thanks... Quote Link to comment
MacBandit Posted May 24, 2004 Share Posted May 24, 2004 Here a page of someone who took a GPS-V apart and attempted some modifications. It's nicely detailed with excellent photos. http://www.elsinga.net/index.html?page=gps5faq Scroll down and click on "What is inside the GPS V case?" I'm still having lots of trouble with Mapsource on the 76CS. I believe the maps are downloaded - this am I put 43 of the Topo maps on it, most of Idaho. When I go the GPS I and select "Maps" I only see one - a map located somewhere in the middle of the long list I believe I moved to the GPS. Any ideas on what I'm doing wrong? thanks... Have you tried turning off all the mapsets except the topo ones? You do this by getting to the map menu and then going to the menu bar above and selecting the mapsets you want on or off as a set rather then selecting them individually by section below. Quote Link to comment
Us 5 Camp Posted May 24, 2004 Author Share Posted May 24, 2004 At this point I would be willing to bet that the hardware and software of the 60c/s and 76c/s are exactly the same except for the size of storage memory. I think you are mostly correct. I bet the hardware is the same and the firmware only has minor differences. If you've ever seen the post showing a picture of the guts of a 76S and then look at a 60 series, you'll see they are nearly the same size. 76 series encases the antenna entirely and the 60 series has the Rhino-like antenna sticking out of it's case. This minute amount of extra volume is why the 76 floats and the 60 sinks. I would love to see the guts of one of any GPS could you post the link? Link to picture of the inside of a 76s (note: not a 76C or 76 CS) Quote Link to comment
Hankhan Posted May 24, 2004 Share Posted May 24, 2004 US 5 Camp - Thanks a LOT! I'm really technology challenged, and this new GPS is testing my limits. I fooled around with map settings and seemed to get the topo maps working. At least it looks drastically different when I turn on them vs. having them off. Thanks again! Quote Link to comment
Us 5 Camp Posted May 24, 2004 Author Share Posted May 24, 2004 US 5 Camp - Thanks a LOT! I'm really technology challenged, and this new GPS is testing my limits. I fooled around with map settings and seemed to get the topo maps working. At least it looks drastically different when I turn on them vs. having them off. Thanks again! The zoom scale on the bottom of the screen should say "Mapsource" under if if you are viewing any of the Mapsource products. You can also, from the map page, hit 'menu', 'setup map' and use the center pad to navigate over to the mapsource page to see what maps you have loaded as well as which you have turned on. Quote Link to comment
+wickedsprint Posted May 24, 2004 Share Posted May 24, 2004 Is it true they have a more detailed basemap than the 60C? If so, it should have the same detail as your vista basemap, please check for me. Quote Link to comment
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