katybird Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 I am still learning about FINDING caches, but I'm already planning ideas for PLANTING them - frankly, I think I'll enjoy that the most. I want to get better with the GPS thing before I attempt it, as well as learn more about what people like/expect. Anyway, I've got a few ideas - one is a surprising little glen two blocks from my house full of deer and general prettiness. Another is a gorgeous scenic vista at a historic site that, surprisingly, hasn't been done here. However, there is one site in the area that is both interesting for "nice" reasons - it's a fascinating rural church that dates back to the days of early settlers, a bit off the beaten path - and for a VERY macabre reason: it featured heavily in one of the most gruesome and notorious murders in Cincinnati history. It's somewhat of interest to me, as I grew up not far from the site, and the perp was one of my father's HS students. It was a satanic ritual slaying, and just reading about it tonight creeped the marmalade right out of me. Is there any appropriate way to do a cache at this site that acknowleges this aspect of its history? Can one warn cachers that, if they bring their tykes along, they might not want to read ALL of the historical information aloud? It's tempting to do something that highlites it - much like those Jack The Ripper guided walks/pub crawls in London. OTOH, it IS rather disrespectful to the victim (although she WAS a member of the satanic cult that killed her). Would it be too "Blair Witchy" and attract the wrong sorts of people? I know people like to visit the site of the St. Valentine's Day Massacre, and there's a restaurant in Rome that is right where Julius Ceasar was assasinated, but is this just too dadgum creepy? [This message was edited by katybird on July 03, 2003 at 10:54 PM.] Quote Link to comment
utedude Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 sounds great to me but then we are a little weird over here in oz. We got folk over here that like going geocaching in the nude hey wait wait wait I gotta good one, why dont you combine horror and nudity and call it the vouyer cache or something. Quote Link to comment
utedude Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 sounds great to me but then we are a little weird over here in oz. We got folk over here that like going geocaching in the nude hey wait wait wait I gotta good one, why dont you combine horror and nudity and call it the vouyer cache or something. Quote Link to comment
utedude Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 sounds good to me,over here in oz we got folk who go caching in the nude maybe you could combine your idea with this and maybe call it the horror vouyer cache. Quote Link to comment
+Mr. 0 Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 I'd say that some people would find it interesting...myself included. I'm into the more off-beat history....the kind of stuff that isn't in the text books and is more locally known. Either way I would say if you decided to set the cache up, make sure to warn folks that it may no be fit for youngsters. I would put it on there several times, and a few times in big bold letters to make sure people see the notice. Mr. 0 "Remember that nature and the elements are neither your friend or your enemy - they are actually disinterested." Department of the Army Field Manual FM 21-76 "Survival" Oct. 1970 Quote Link to comment
+Caching In Posted July 4, 2003 Share Posted July 4, 2003 It sounds interesting to me. When it gets approved, that will be your answer. It is history, and no matter how gruesome, can it really be grimmer than any two-hour block of prime time TV? Just do it. Quote Link to comment
+woodsters Posted July 4, 2003 Share Posted July 4, 2003 Mark it with a warning on the cache page. Those who don't want to do it don't have to. Sounds cool to me. I would think it would be a better cache than the "Glen" full of deer as cachers will obviously disturb those deer in their natural habitat. Might scare one or some into the road and get killed. Brian Wood Woodsters Outdoors http://www.woodsters.com Quote Link to comment
katybird Posted July 4, 2003 Author Share Posted July 4, 2003 Thanks! I'll get around to it sometime this summer. I DEFINITELY have to take someone with me so I don't get too creeped out. From what I can tell, there aren't any geocaches there, yet. It's so rural, that it doesn't have an address, so nailing down a zip code is hard - but nothing for the zips of nearby towns turned up anything. I did find that there's a letterbox hidden there - possibly someone who does both will enjoy that. For curious readers: There was a wedding there on Valentines Day back in the 80's. A couple of kids went back into the woods and discovered a pair of freshly severed legs wearing fancy fringed cowboy boots. Investigators were able to confirm the identity of a missing 21-year-old waitress by finding the store that sold her the custom boots. She was friends/ex something of this idiot who was a "satanic priest" who got tired of her, lured her to his trailor - which was painted black and had an altar made of a stolen victorian tombstone - and shot her in the back of the head as she knelt at the altar. He drained her blood, which he kept, then severed her legs and dumped them near the church in order to desecrate it. The rest of her body was never found. Quote Link to comment
+woodsters Posted July 4, 2003 Share Posted July 4, 2003 alrighty then! Brian Wood Woodsters Outdoors http://www.woodsters.com Quote Link to comment
+Search1128 Posted July 4, 2003 Share Posted July 4, 2003 That scene you described sound like it would fit in just nicely for an episode of CSI. I can see Gil and company now.... "On the next CSI!" Cache on. Kirk out Quote Link to comment
+Team Shibby Posted July 4, 2003 Share Posted July 4, 2003 The spookier the better! As much as I believe in caching being a family activity, not ALL caches need to meet this criteria. I would just make sure you post a note stating that folks may wish to avoid bringing their kids to this one or like you said earlier, leave out the spooky history. Kar Quote Link to comment
+SearchRescueDog Posted July 4, 2003 Share Posted July 4, 2003 I would have to agree. That is the type of cache I enjoy... Rural and with little known history. Quote Link to comment
katybird Posted July 5, 2003 Author Share Posted July 5, 2003 quote:Originally posted by utedude:sounds great to me but then we are a little weird over here in oz. We got folk over here that like going geocaching in the nude hey wait wait wait I gotta good one, why dont you combine horror and nudity and call it the vouyer cache or something. IN the NUDE??? I'm waaaaay too paranoid about ticks, chiggers, and poison ivy for that! Actually, I was at my second find, when I read in the log book "I've never seen so much poison ivy in one place." I looked around me and saw that I was surrounded by "leaves of three." Figured I ought to get online and refresh my Girl Scout training ASAP! Spent last night reading about poison ivy and ticks. Am now tempted to stick to urban microcaches. LOL! Quote Link to comment
twoball Posted July 6, 2003 Share Posted July 6, 2003 actually utedude I have seen pictures of some geocachers in the nude on one of the australian geocache pages-one of tangles i think I am drunk and you are ugly, but tomorrow I will be sober but you will still be ugly Quote Link to comment
+Grapu etal Posted July 6, 2003 Share Posted July 6, 2003 I almost exclusively cache with my wife and kids (ages 7, 4, 2 and 5 mos). My take on this kind of cache is DONT SURPRISE ME! It is up to me to research the cache and not just go with the coordinates. I would like to see the grizzly story on the cache page (or at least linked too) and not in the cache itself. That way if I end up hunting for it - I was forewarned and don't end up having my kids read it and freak out. I think it would be a very interesting cache and would probably go with the family but without the kids knowing the full story. ========= "The Road goes ever on and on, out form the door where it began. Now far ahead the Road has gone, Let others follow it who can!" Quote Link to comment
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