+rblaw Posted January 17, 2004 Share Posted January 17, 2004 I want to set up a multicache that will, in winter, require searchers to use cross-country skis. Traveling by any other means would mess up the groomed trails. Would this make searchers without skis crabby? Quote Link to comment
+DustyJacket Posted January 17, 2004 Share Posted January 17, 2004 It would be a challenge. And folks could use snowdhoes. Quote Link to comment
+JMBella Posted January 17, 2004 Share Posted January 17, 2004 (edited) No. It would make them not do it, buy skis, or do it on foot anyway. Edited January 17, 2004 by JMBella Quote Link to comment
+Harrald Posted January 17, 2004 Share Posted January 17, 2004 (edited) Here you go. As long as you rate the cache correctly (It’s a 5 terrain since you need special equipment) no one should be upset. Make mention in the cache description that Skies are necessary, if you like. A question though. Can’t these trails be hiked in the winter? *EDIT* Nevermind. I just saw the word groomed. Edited January 17, 2004 by Harrald Quote Link to comment
+TeamK-9 Posted January 17, 2004 Share Posted January 17, 2004 If it's groomed trails... In most cases, doesn't that mean you'd have to pay for access... Which in turns mean it's a commercial cache? Of course only if you have to pay for access... Quote Link to comment
Captain Chaoss Posted January 17, 2004 Share Posted January 17, 2004 He stated these are groomed trails. Though the grooming process packs the surface some, it generally still allows a foot to sink in. That defeats the purpose of grooming it in the first place. However...... here on the east coast, grooming usually creates a surface capable of supporting a tank, so its up to the keeper of the trails to allow hiking or not. Quote Link to comment
+rblaw Posted January 17, 2004 Author Share Posted January 17, 2004 Thanks for the suggestions. I do the grooming. No fee required. But I would probably disable the cache if the tracks were messed up by snowshoes. Quote Link to comment
uperdooper Posted January 17, 2004 Share Posted January 17, 2004 there is one in michigan called Checkpoint Charlie that is for monitoring snowmobile traffic in the area. it can also be done on foot year yound. that might be a solution. Quote Link to comment
+bons Posted January 17, 2004 Share Posted January 17, 2004 At this point I am convinced that 1/10 cachers simply doesn't read the cache description or otherwise completely blows the plans of the cache planter. (And I suspect the same rough percentages goes with travel bug finders and cache owners as well.) I've lost track of the number of the "bushwacked in. followed trail back" logs. Following closely on the heels are the "mystery/puzzle cache isn't at listed co-ordinates" tales (no, the text tells you where the cache is). If you don't want the trails ruined, don't publish the cache for the world to see simply because there is a small percentage of the world who will screw up. Just like you don't attach anything you don't want lost to a travel bug and you know not everyone who will visit your cache will return it to the proper spot and trade up. The way it should be done and the way it will be done are two very different things. Quote Link to comment
+rblaw Posted January 17, 2004 Author Share Posted January 17, 2004 It's just snow and here in northern Michigan, we now have a lot of it. I am going to give it a try. If the tracks are messed up, I'll just get out the groomer and disable the caches. Quote Link to comment
+TAT Posted January 17, 2004 Share Posted January 17, 2004 The comments about reading the description are right. I am one of the offenders. In my case, I'll load coordinates when I travel and won't always remember the cache description. If you have problems with hikers, you could post the parking coordinates or those of the sign at the entrance. Then, print the final coordinates in the description. This way, unprepared cachers may not be able to find it the first time, but no one will ruin the trails. Quote Link to comment
+wimseyguy Posted January 17, 2004 Share Posted January 17, 2004 (edited) Do yo plan to disable the cache during the 3-4 months when XXskis can't be worn up there? Edited January 17, 2004 by wimseyguy Quote Link to comment
MOCKBA Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 rate the cache correctly (It’s a 5 terrain since you need special equipment) Skis aren't a special eqipment, anymore than snowshoes or gaiters are. It's just one of the ways to get around in the snow. And the gc.com do not say that a cache must be rated 5 for terrain merely because it EXCLUDES certain kinds of equipment. As to making sure that people read the cache description, one just has to make it a puzzle or offset cahe, i.e. not at the listed coords. just love the idea of a cache that discriminates agains snowshoers Quote Link to comment
+Harrald Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 Skis aren't a special eqipment, anymore than snowshoes or gaiters are. <<SNIP>> You're incorrect. To get to this cache you MUST have skis. Anyone that doesn't have a pair will not be able to reach this cache. Therefore you NEED special equipment. The Necessity of special equipment donates a 5 star terrain. ***** Requires specialized equipment and knowledge or experience, (boat, 4WD, rock climbing, SCUBA, etc) or is otherwise extremely difficult. Not everyone owns a pair of skis or even knows how to use them. Quote Link to comment
+rblaw Posted January 22, 2004 Author Share Posted January 22, 2004 The 5 cache Skiocache is in place. Come and get it. But 33 mph winds might make it a bit nippy today. Don't forget to bring your skis. Quote Link to comment
+rover-r-us Posted January 22, 2004 Share Posted January 22, 2004 i can't ski so i would have to do it by foot. Quote Link to comment
MOCKBA Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 Don't forget to bring your skis it would be great to provide rentals info. You can usually rent xc gear for the day for under $10. Quote Link to comment
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.