+Jamie Z Posted December 31, 2002 Share Posted December 31, 2002 In looking for a good way to make a waterproof logsheet for a microcache, I did some forum searches and came up with these pertinent threads: waterproofing printouts Printing Waterproof Cache Pages The threads offer some good ideas, but because of their age, I think technology has advanced in the paper industry. I read this off-topic post in a regional forum. National Geographic paper sounds like the stuff I need (although it looks to be rather expensive). I went to a local office supply store, but they don't carry stuff like that. Where's a good place to buy this waterproof paper? Any other waterproofing ideas? We haven't discussed this topic in quite some time. Jamie Quote Link to comment
skydiver Posted December 31, 2002 Share Posted December 31, 2002 I've seen the NG paper at our REI store here. Wasn't cheap, but I don't remember it being overly expensive either. You'd probably need to buy a pack of sheets, of which you'd probably only use one to make the log book, so for one micro, yes, that might be too expensive. But check REI if you have one near you. --------------------------------------- "We never seek things for themselves -- what we seek is the very seeking of things." Blaise Pascal (1623-1662) --------------------------------------- Quote Link to comment
+Faderaven Posted December 31, 2002 Share Posted December 31, 2002 Don't you mean waterproof ink? Let my heart be still a moment and this mystery explore Quote Link to comment
skydiver Posted December 31, 2002 Share Posted December 31, 2002 Found it $20 for a 25 pack for a single micro cache is more than I'd want to spend, that's for sure. --------------------------------------- "We never seek things for themselves -- what we seek is the very seeking of things." Blaise Pascal (1623-1662) --------------------------------------- Quote Link to comment
+CCrew Posted December 31, 2002 Share Posted December 31, 2002 Hmm, maybe I'm dating myself.. What about the paper frequently used by butchers, deli's etc to wrap meats in? I don't know what the "trade" name of it would be, but the thought of a paper that can be in full contact with a raw/frozen surface and still hold, that's what comes to mind. Roger Sometimes a majority only means that all the fools are on the same side Quote Link to comment
magellan315 Posted December 31, 2002 Share Posted December 31, 2002 You should also take a look on the web for a product known as Rite as Rain. Very similar if not the same as th National Geographic paper. Its sold by the ream and in several different sized note books. I believe you can buy it through the Geocaching website, check out the on-line store. Quote Link to comment
+Eswau Posted December 31, 2002 Share Posted December 31, 2002 http://www.riteintherain.com/ and order their $10 starter pack (includes postage). You end up with 100 sheets or water proof paper and an all weather ink pen. I'm getting ready to put one of the notebooks in my first cache. Eswau Quote Link to comment
+Sabaharr Posted December 31, 2002 Share Posted December 31, 2002 Try putting regular paper in a Scout waterproof match container. Get them at any local Scout supply store and some army surplus. Life is like being on a dog sled team. If you are not the lead dog the view is always the same. Complacancy is feeding a tiger steaks while waiting for him to become a vegitarian. Quote Link to comment
+Dekaner Posted December 31, 2002 Share Posted December 31, 2002 FYI It's free shipping on your -next- order. https://riteintherain.safeserver.com/samplerequest.html quote:All for just $10 dollars (U.S. recipients only). Plus, if that wasn't enough, we will throw in FREE shipping on your next "Rite in the Rain" order! (U.S. recipients only) So, you really have nothing to lose. (Free shipping offer for new customers only - sent UPS ground where available) For anyone interested, I'm considering purchasing a ream (500 sheets) of the 8 1/2 by 11" paper. I'd be willing to resell the sheets in small quantity to anyone interested. It would come out to something like $0.10 - $0.15 a sheet at cost, plus shipping, etc. Certantly better than the $0.80 a sheet of the NG paper!! - Dekaner of Team KKF2A (dekaner@kkf2a.com) Quote Link to comment
+Renegade Knight Posted December 31, 2002 Share Posted December 31, 2002 Like others said. Rite in the Rain is used by surveyors. That and a pencil (lead don't run) are as good as it gets. That is until they do Tyvek log books. Wherever you go there you are. Quote Link to comment
+Jamie Z Posted December 31, 2002 Author Share Posted December 31, 2002 quote:Originally posted by Faderaven:Don't you mean waterproof ink? Well, according to Fizzymagic, that's not a problem with NG's new paper: "The National Geographic waterproof paper is amazing! You print on it with an inkjet printer, and you can leave it submerged and it won't smear or fade. I am very, very impressed with the stuff." At almost $1.00 a sheet though... man. Jamie Quote Link to comment
+creagerstonefamily Posted January 3, 2003 Share Posted January 3, 2003 FYI, I'm still waiting on the printer to "find" the box of my first run of Microcache Logbooks. They moved the day after printing the first hundred and they haven't been seen since. I'm pretty sure that I'm just going to give up and have another batch printed. They're 35 sheets (70 logs) of 24# Rite in the Rain paper bound with a durable, printed cover. It fits perfectly in an Altoids tin. Cost: around $1.50 or so. (Less if I can guilt him into giving me a deal since he lost the first batch!) Quote Link to comment
+dthigpen Posted January 3, 2003 Share Posted January 3, 2003 If you're writing on it, RiteintheRain... If you're printing on it, NG Adventure Paper. Personally I use the 11x17 NG Adventure Paper to print out topo maps and love it. It is most definately waterproof (First time you submerge it the excess ink will come off the paper cleanly, but the excess only, the map is still there) and pretty darn tearproof. While it is a bit expensive, I recommend it highly. Doug Quote Link to comment
dave and jaime Posted January 3, 2003 Share Posted January 3, 2003 an interesting product to try might be the wet-proof surveyors note book. we use them in the rain without problems and theyd be the right size for a regular cache log book. Quote Link to comment
The_Brownies Posted January 8, 2003 Share Posted January 8, 2003 If you go to the Rite as Rain website they list a dealer location. It lists dealers in all 50 states. I found one here in Ellensburg. They had the full line. I bought 8 sheets for $1.35 on sale and will make 32 pages of micro cache logs from them. I did not pay shipping or handeling. They also had a ream of 8X11 sheets for $21.95 which works out to approx .04 per sheet. I would suggest that you hit thier website and look for a dealer near you. Note, you have to print the logs out using a Laserjet printer or a photo copier. Waterbased ink used in injet printers will not work. Quote Link to comment
+Desert_Warrior Posted January 9, 2003 Share Posted January 9, 2003 quote:Originally posted by Jamie Z:Where's a good place to buy this waterproof paper? Any other waterproofing ideas? We haven't discussed this topic in quite some time. Jamie I use the waterproof notebooks sold for military use. They come in several sizes from very small pocket, to full military breast-pocket size, to small notebook size. Best of all, they are all under $4. I get them at the Fort Bliss Clothing and Supply sales store. I expect they are available at any military post, and most camping/surplus stores although maybe cost more. I will get the name of the manufacturer if anyone wants it. Mike. Desert_Warrior (aka KD9KC). El Paso, Texas. Citizens of this land may own guns. Not to threaten their neighbors, but to ensure themselves of liberty and freedom. They are not assault weapons anymore... they are HOMELAND DEFENSE WEAPONS! Quote Link to comment
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