isleskipper Posted July 1, 2003 Share Posted July 1, 2003 Here's an idea as an alternative to placing caches while on vacation. Take a look at the WEBCAM COORDINATES PROJECT. Instead of placing caches, locate the coordinates of webcams wherever in the world you travel. You don't leave anything, and there is nothing to maintain. John Quote Link to comment
+bigredmed Posted July 1, 2003 Share Posted July 1, 2003 Another idea would be to develop a travelling cache that would migrate back to your town cache to cache. That way you could place it where you were, and it would be gone shortly there after going into caches between there and home. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nebraskache/ Quote Link to comment
+Mopar Posted July 1, 2003 Share Posted July 1, 2003 quote:Originally posted by bigredmed:Another idea would be to develop a travelling cache that would migrate back to your town cache to cache. That way you could place it where you were, and it would be gone shortly there after going into caches between there and home. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nebraskache/ Well, since traveling caches are no longer allowed, make that a travel bug with a goal to return to your home town. Tae-Kwon-Leap is not a path to a door, but a road leading forever towards the horizon. Quote Link to comment
+worldtraveler Posted July 1, 2003 Share Posted July 1, 2003 According to the guidelines, traveling caches are currently not being approved. quote:Cache Permanence As the Frequently Asked Questions indicate, geocaches can be hidden in a location for a finite period of time, depending on the environment and the decision of the cache owner. However, when you report a cache on the web site, geocachers should (and will) expect the cache to be there for a realistic and extended period of time. Therefore, caches that have the goal to move, or temporary caches (ex: Caches hidden for events) will not be approved. If you wish to hide caches for an event, bring printouts to the event and hand them out there. Worldtraveler Quote Link to comment
+briansnat Posted July 2, 2003 Share Posted July 2, 2003 You can attach a small cache to a travel bug. Then you have a legal travelling cache. "Give a man a fish, he'll eat for a day. Teach a man to fish, he'll sit in a boat and drink beer all day" - Dave Barry Quote Link to comment
+GoaTSniFFer Posted July 2, 2003 Share Posted July 2, 2003 quote:Originally posted by BrianSnat:You can attach a small cache to a travel bug. Then you have a legal travelling cache. That is a cool idea! Include a small log inside, very cool. - GoatSniFFer "Don't you hate it when the toliet paper rips?" Quote Link to comment
+woodsters Posted July 2, 2003 Share Posted July 2, 2003 There was a travel bug that we picked up out of a cache called "Curious George - Rock Collector". It was a little curious george doll with a back pack on it. A great place for a log book. Also saw a travel bug on the website that was a log book with the TB tags on it. What about vacation caches as virtuals? Brian Wood Woodsters Outdoors http://www.woodsters.com Quote Link to comment
+welch Posted July 2, 2003 Share Posted July 2, 2003 quote:Originally posted by Woodsters Outdoors:What about vacation caches as virtuals? Brian Wood Woodsters Outdoors [url=http://www.woodsters.com Virtuals are getting harder to get approved. By gc.com guidelines they are not supposed to be placed where a physical could go, which your not suppose to place if you can't maintain. Quote Link to comment
+welch Posted July 2, 2003 Share Posted July 2, 2003 Can I request I bee allowed to delete my own posts?? Quote Link to comment
+woodsters Posted July 2, 2003 Share Posted July 2, 2003 quote:Originally posted by welch: quote:Originally posted by Woodsters Outdoors:What about vacation caches as virtuals? Brian Wood Woodsters Outdoors [url=http://www.woodsters.com Virtuals are getting harder to get approved. By gc.com guidelines they are not supposed to be placed where a physical could go, which your not suppose to place if you can't maintain. http://brillig.com/geocaching/http://img.Groundspeak.com/user/22008_1700.gif http://www.gpgeocaching.com/ I would think it would not be a virtual if you could place a physical cache there. Perhaps a statue or monument, or something that is something to see. Brian Wood Woodsters Outdoors http://www.woodsters.com Quote Link to comment
+mtn-man Posted July 2, 2003 Share Posted July 2, 2003 quote:Originally posted by Woodsters Outdoors:Also saw a travel bug on the website that was a log book with the TB tags on it. The Coast to Coast to Coast LogbookI got this in CO and moved it to GA. What a cool idea from fractal. quote:I would think it would not be a virtual if you could place a physical cache there. Perhaps a statue or monument, or something that is something to see. Just keep in mind that there are hundreds of thousands of statues and monuments out there. They really have to be unique and "novel, of interest to other players, and have a special historic, community or geocaching quality that sets it apart from everyday subjects." Just another monument will generally not be approved. Here is something else to keep in mind for vacation virtuals... quote:There have been virtual caches approved in the past on the basis that "a physical cache could not be appropriately maintained" at the location, often by a user who is traveling through the area. This essentially "blocks" the area for later placement of a physical cache. Physical caches have priority, so virtual caches of this nature will usually not be approved. Virtuals can and are approved now by people that are on vacation. But make sure that the area fits all the criteria listed in the guidelines. I am considering a virtual cache in NY in an area where there is no way to place a cache (national security) and it is indeed a unique and historic location. Before I create it, though, I would pass the idea in front of the other admins. Quote Link to comment
+welch Posted July 2, 2003 Share Posted July 2, 2003 quote:Originally posted by Woodsters Outdoors:I would think it would not be a virtual if you could place a physical cache there. Perhaps a statue or monument, or something that is something to see. So would I, But its not always that way. Quote Link to comment
+Bloencustoms Posted July 2, 2003 Share Posted July 2, 2003 I have an idea. If, while vacationing, you find an area so compelling that it needs a cache, and you want to share the location with other cachers, make it an event cache. After the event, there is no maintenance, no container, no problem. I never saw any guidelines against vacation event caches. "The fertilizer has hit the ventilator" Quote Link to comment
+briansnat Posted July 2, 2003 Share Posted July 2, 2003 quote: posted July 02, 2003 05:52 PMI have an idea. If, while vacationing, you find an area so compelling that it needs a cache, and you want to share the location with other cachers, make it an event cache. After the event, there is no maintenance, no container, no problem. I never saw any guidelines against vacation event caches. Or you can post in the regional forum. I know in my area that people are constantly looking for unique places. "Give a man a fish, he'll eat for a day. Teach a man to fish, he'll sit in a boat and drink beer all day" - Dave Barry Quote Link to comment
+Renegade Knight Posted July 2, 2003 Share Posted July 2, 2003 Why not do a vacation webcam cache. Nothing to maintain anyway so the main objection is a moot point. Quote Link to comment
+OzzieSan Posted July 2, 2003 Share Posted July 2, 2003 I think a great alternate to placing a cache while on vacation would be to seek out some of the caches placed by the locals. Quote Link to comment
+woodsters Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 Why not require that a vacation cache be virtual only and get rid of the word vacation. It's obvious alarms set off when that word is spoken on here...lol Then make virtuals a seperate type of find than physical caches. Make another line on the profile pages as Virtual Caches - Found/Hidden (or better word of maybe placed). They would be similar to benchmarks, but people can take them as they may. Then you could take virtual caches out of the rule that they can't be placed within 528' from a physical. Brian Wood Woodsters Outdoors http://www.woodsters.com Quote Link to comment
+mtn-man Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 I think a great alternate to placing a cache while on vacation would be to seek out some of the caches placed by the locals. Quote Link to comment
+IV_Warrior Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 Once again, I agree with mtn-man. For those like Woodsters though, NOONE said you can't place a geocache while on vacation...they just said you can't get it listed on THIS SITE. Still wanna place a cache while on vacation? Go for it, if you must, just list it SOMEWHERE ELSE. Nothing to see here, move along. Quote Link to comment
+woodsters Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 I didn't say that people should place physical caches on vacation. Vacation meaning somewhere they know nothing about and don't have the means of having the physical cache maintained. If I decide to go take my kids to Disneyworld for a vacation, then no I shouldn't place a physical cache, but why couldn't I post a virtual cache? People already complain about virtuals, why not make them seperate like benchmarks? Have them available for those who like to do them and maybe only physically capable of doing those (handicapped?). And yes if someone wnated to place a physical cache while on vacation they could and get it listed on the site. Easily. Of the over 8000 profiles here, how many do you think are fake? I know they can track the IP number on the accounts and match them up, but it's would be simple for someone to use seperate ISP's, producing different IP addresses or even have someone that lives in that area post it on the internet themselves for them. If people want to do it, they will. Brian Wood Woodsters Outdoors http://www.woodsters.com Quote Link to comment
+woodsters Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 Another point comes up. If a person caches all around (mulitple states) and don't post a location of where they are from , like many on here, then how would an approver know or not if they are from that area and are capable of maintianing it? Especially If that person has several caches found in the area that they want to place the cache? I'm sure, except with the obvious times, that the approvers will probably say that they can not 100% guarantee that the person requesting to have a cache approved is a local to that area. If they can, I would like to know how. Brian Wood Woodsters Outdoors http://www.woodsters.com Quote Link to comment
+mtn-man Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 Thanks IV, but I copied Team 5-oh!'s post verbatim. I was hoping that having that pearl of wisdom posted twice might help it sink in. quote:Originally posted by Woodsters Outdoors: If I decide to go take my kids to Disneyworld for a vacation, then no I shouldn't place a physical cache, but why couldn't I post a virtual cache? Brian, I have answered this exact question here. I would recommend taking some time to really go through these three web pages: http://www.geocaching.com/articles/requirements.asp http://www.geocaching.com/faq.asp http://www.geocaching.com/articles/making.asp Read them a couple of times if you need too. Most of the questions you are asking are answered there. The reason why I personally keep answering you is because your hypothetical involves Augusta, GA. If you hide a cache there then I will be one of the people that has to review the cache and if you do mess up then it will end up being the GGA's responsibility to go clean up your mess since you are 1000 miles away. FYI... admins look at many things but we don't always catch caches being posted by someone that is not from the area. We watch caches though, and the follow up helps us to find problems and deal with them. Here is a cache that is a prime example. He said he could not deal with the issues addressed in the logs for a couple of months when I emailed him. I archived the cache immediately. Quote Link to comment
+woodsters Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 Don't worry it was all hypothetical , i'm not going to place a cache in augusta. And if I do, I will be a "local" ...lmao One question though... No caches on military installations? Brian Wood Woodsters Outdoors http://www.woodsters.com Quote Link to comment
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