Library mystery cache

[+Arcane_Artificer]

I have placed a cache in a local library and have sent it off for review but each time it is the reviewer sends it back and says there’s an issue with it , that I dose not fit the guild lines for a indoor cache.

My question is is there a way to have it be that when the puzzle is solved that it unlocks a virtual description of the final location with out needing anything physical at the first location?

 

[Keystone]

You need to add an outdoor stage to your Library Cache, as explained in detail by your reviewer.  For everyone else, we're talking about the guidance for indoor caches.

 

Once you add an outdoor stage that can be navigated to with a GPS-enabled device, your cache can be published.

[+arisoft]

11 hours ago, Arcane_Artificer said:

is there a way to have it be that when the puzzle is solved that it unlocks a virtual description of the final location with out needing anything physical at the first location?

 

Yes, there are many ways to do this. Here is one example:

 

Set the starting coordinate somewhere outside the library.

Ask the player find a text, numbers or count windows etc. from the starting point.

Add a geochecker to the cache description. Certitude.org is suitable for this.

Use "Keyword" solution and add your virtual description as "Bonus info" in the checker.

 

This completes the requirement for using GPS.

[+Arcane_Artificer]

15 hours ago, Keystone said:

You need to add an outdoor stage to your Library Cache, as explained in detail by your reviewer.  For everyone else, we're talking about the guidance for indoor caches.

 

Once you add an outdoor stage that can be navigated to with a GPS-enabled device, your cache can be published.

I have read the guidelines and the bit that I am getting stuck on is the "Players should not be able to find the final container without completing the outdoor stage." I have changed it to a multi-cache and have set up a virtual point, now do I add a description to the virtual point on how to get to the cache or what?

please give clear instructions as I am apparently very stupid, thanks.

[+Max and 99]

17 minutes ago, Arcane_Artificer said:

I have read the guidelines and the bit that I am getting stuck on is the "Players should not be able to find the final container without completing the outdoor stage." I have changed it to a multi-cache and have set up a virtual point, now do I add a description to the virtual point on how to get to the cache or what?

please give clear instructions as I am apparently very stupid, thanks.

What do players have to do at the virtual stage? Where are those instructions given to them?

[+Arcane_Artificer]

A description of the cache location is attached to the vertual point. I have attached an image of the point. 

[+Max and 99]

I would not have any idea what to do at that virtual stage.

If the final coordinates are a visible waypoint then there's no point in the virtual stage 1. 

Edited September 13, 2023 by Max and 99

[+Arcane_Artificer]

16 minutes ago, Max and 99 said:

I would not have any idea what to do at that virtual stage.

If the final coordinates are a visible waypoint then there's no point in the virtual stage 1.

So if I make that final location non visable will that solve the issue and fit the guild line?

 

 

 

Edited September 13, 2023 by Arcane_Artificer

[+Max and 99]

Not if people don't know what to do at stage one.

What exactly is the point of stage 1? What do they do there?

Edited September 13, 2023 by Max and 99

[+Arcane_Artificer]

They follow the note on the waypoint, into the library, and to the language section 

 

[+Max and 99]

4 minutes ago, Arcane_Artificer said:

They follow the note on the waypoint, into the library, and to the language section 

 

So there's nothing to do at stage one, they can just see that note from home and go straight to the final? Just clarifying.

It seems like you have not met the guidelines then if you can find the final without an outdoor stage? 

Really, just trying to understand. 

Maybe I'm completely wrong!

Edited September 13, 2023 by Max and 99

[+Arcane_Artificer]

No that sounds correct, I was hoping by having the note at the vertual point it would solve the problem of needing the a point out side

[+Arcane_Artificer]

40 minutes ago, Max and 99 said:

So there's nothing to do at stage one, they can just see that note from home and go straight to the final? Just clarifying.

It seems like you have not met the guidelines then if you can find the final without an outdoor stage? 

Really, just trying to understand. 

Maybe I'm completely wrong!

Thanks for the help, I added a geochecker to it, so will that fit the guild lines

[+GeoElmo6000]

I created one where the outdoor puzzle uses ISBN numbers of books that, when put together, make a sentence describing where the cache is in the library.  The numbers are in a small container outside the library that requires GPS coordinates.

[+JL_HSTRE]

Library caches usually have a physical container (could even just be a tag or sticker) with a Dewey decimal or similar number.

 

It's possible for the outside stage to be virtual if there's something that can be used as a field puzzle. Count windows, use numbers/letters from existing signage, etc.

 

What you cannot do is put the outside stage at the entrance to the library and simply give the call number on the cache page. This was allowed long ago, but not anymore.

[+Arcane_Artificer]

Thanks to all for your suggestions, I ended up using certitude for it which solved my outdoor part issue. 

Here is a link to the site for any future similarly minded person: https://www.certitudes.org/

[+Max and 99]

I think it's disappointing that the new blog post about library geocaches does not even mention the guidelines for indoor caches. They missed an opportunity to inform.

 

https://www.geocaching.com/blog/2023/11/creative-caches-library-geocaches/